Botts fired yet? What a joke he is. Might be worse than Murray at this point.

Murray:

Eichel
Reinhart
Oreilly
Bust in Nylander
Horrible contract in Okposo

Botts:
dahlin
Maybe cozens??
Bust in Mitts
Horrible contract in Skinner

Why are we giving this guy another shot at a draft and offseason??
- Fattony1187

We're not.

Pegula is. 😉

Weren't his drafts given good grades? I know, we don't really know how they'll pan out.

We're not.

Pegula is. 😉

Weren't his drafts given good grades? I know, we don't really know how they'll pan out.
- Powerslave

In my view his 2019 draft was ok, not great. Obviously I like the Cozens pick and Portillo in the 3rd rd. I hate the Johnson pick and the rest are meh. Rousek in the 6th rd might pan out but a big if.

The '18 draft was very good aside from Dahlin. Samuelsson and Pekar are good picks and I like the Cronholm pick.

The '17 draft was maybe his best draft if a few things pan out. Obviously big question mark on Mitts but 6K is a fantastic selection and I recall on draft day I wanted him with that extra 2nd rd pick. He was the best goalie in that draft imo, not just the best European. If Davidsson comes over and one of either Bryson or Weissbach make it, it's a great draft for Botts.

So many questions but I would give Botts a B+ so far.

In my view his 2019 draft was ok, not great. Obviously I like the Cozens pick and Portillo in the 3rd rd. I hate the Johnson pick and the rest are meh. Rousek in the 6th rd might pan out but a big if.

The '18 draft was very good aside from Dahlin. Samuelsson and Pekar are good picks and I like the Cronholm pick.

The '17 draft was maybe his best draft if a few things pan out. Obviously big question mark on Mitts but 6K is a fantastic selection and I recall on draft day I wanted him with that extra 2nd rd pick. He was the best goalie in that draft imo, not just the best European. If Davidsson comes over and one of either Bryson or Weissbach make it, it's a great draft for Botts.

So many questions but I would give Botts a B+ so far.
- mhp

The million dollar question then is, is he around to see it pan out?

The million dollar question then is, is he around to see it pan out?
- Powerslave

If Pegula has his way, yes.

In my view his 2019 draft was ok, not great. Obviously I like the Cozens pick and Portillo in the 3rd rd. I hate the Johnson pick and the rest are meh. Rousek in the 6th rd might pan out but a big if.

The '18 draft was very good aside from Dahlin. Samuelsson and Pekar are good picks and I like the Cronholm pick.

The '17 draft was maybe his best draft if a few things pan out. Obviously big question mark on Mitts but 6K is a fantastic selection and I recall on draft day I wanted him with that extra 2nd rd pick. He was the best goalie in that draft imo, not just the best European. If Davidsson comes over and one of either Bryson or Weissbach make it, it's a great draft for Botts.

So many questions but I would give Botts a B+ so far.
- mhp

You wanted one of the 20 forwards available at that pick, I assume, because it's not like Johnson isn't talented.

Side note

This year they have to sign Glotov, Nyberg and Murray by June 1st. Murray will be the only one signed imo,

Next year it's Davidsson, Laaksonen, Rousek and Weissbach.

Side note

This year they have to sign Glotov, Nyberg and Murray by June 1st. Murray will be the only one signed imo,

Next year it's Davidsson, Laaksonen, Rousek and Weissbach.
- mhp

Any idea how Glotov has looked? Easy to root for him.

He might sign all 4 of next year's list.

You wanted one of the 20 forwards available at that pick, I assume, because it's not like Johnson isn't talented.
- kingcong39

I wanted Kaliyev or Brink in that spot. We didn't need to draft a dman and although Johnson is a solid prospect, he was a reach in my view. We needed a forward.

I wanted Kaliyev or Brink in that spot. We didn't need to draft a dman and although Johnson is a solid prospect, he was a reach in my view. We needed a forward.
- mhp

What you said is the prevalent analytical opinion.

What's interesting is the analytical opinion on the Samuelsson pick the year before was worse than the Johnson pick, for similar reasons, with Samuelsson having less offensive talent.

Any idea how Glotov has looked? Easy to root for him.

He might sign all 4 of next year's list.
- kingcong39

Glotov went back to Russia. He wasn't offered an AHL contract.

this is gonna be a train wreck tour in 2020

Glotov went back to Russia. He wasn't offered an AHL contract.
- mhp

Looked like he had a solid year in the ECHL, but not spectacular last year.

Unfortunate as he seemed to really embrace Buffalo.

Side note

This year they have to sign Glotov, Nyberg and Murray by June 1st. Murray will be the only one signed imo,

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- mhp

agreed

What you said is the prevalent analytical opinion.

What's interesting is the analytical opinion on the Samuelsson pick the year before was worse than the Johnson pick, for similar reasons, with Samuelsson having less offensive talent.
- kingcong39

Some mocks liked Samuelsson as a late 1st and others didn't. I liked the pick. I wanted Kaliyev with that second pick as opposed to Johnson. Botts has picked 8 dmen in his 3 drafts, just thought a winger with pick 31 was the more prudent play.

Looked like he had a solid year in the ECHL, but not spectacular last year.

Unfortunate as he seemed to really embrace Buffalo.
- kingcong39

Agreed. Not sure what the issue was in Rochester. I guess they just went in a different direction.

Some mocks liked Samuelsson as a late 1st and others didn't. I liked the pick. I wanted Kaliyev with that second pick as opposed to Johnson. Botts has picked 8 dmen in his 3 drafts, just thought a winger with pick 31 was the more prudent play.
- mhp

should have taken Pinto, Brink or Kaliyev over Johnson at 31 IMO

Some mocks liked Samuelsson as a late 1st and others didn't. I liked the pick. I wanted Kaliyev with that second pick as opposed to Johnson. Botts has picked 8 dmen in his 3 drafts, just thought a winger with pick 31 was the more prudent play.
- mhp

The analytical crowd hated the Samuelsson pick at the time, and even more so now. They are WAY down on him.

should have taken Pinto, Brink or Kaliyev over Johnson at 31 IMO
- homiedclown

Yep.

The analytical crowd hated the Samuelsson pick at the time, and even more so now. They are WAY down on him.
- kingcong39

I guess we'll see on him. I'm not as down on him. I like his size and defensive game and his HC at Western Michigan Andy Murray has always talked positive about him. He can't be that bad getting the C for USA at the Juniors.

should have taken Pinto, Brink or Kaliyev over Johnson at 31 IMO
- homiedclown

This is the truth. All three had moments at the World Juniors.

I guess we'll see on him. I'm not as down on him. I like his size and defensive game and his HC at Western Michigan Andy Murray has always talked positive about him. He can't be that bad getting the C for USA at the Juniors.
- mhp

I would guess the analytics crowd are down on him due to his lack of offensive production?
My understanding is that isn't his game, rather more of a stay at home, tough Dman with high character level.

I would guess the analytics crowd are down on him due to his lack of offensive production?
My understanding is that isn't his game, rather more of a stay at home, tough Dman with high character level.
- IonSabres

Well, we certainly need more character on this team, that's for sure.

The analytical crowd hated the Samuelsson pick at the time, and even more so now. They are WAY down on him.
- kingcong39

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unglG2iAnEE

I would guess the analytics crowd are down on him due to his lack of offensive production?
My understanding is that isn't his game, rather more of a stay at home, tough Dman with high character level.
- IonSabres

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcY1AxYQb-w

I would guess the analytics crowd are down on him due to his lack of offensive production?
My understanding is that isn't his game, rather more of a stay at home, tough Dman with high character level.
- IonSabres

You described him perfectly.