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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:06 AM ET
Yes.

They need an outside threat. I've seen Higgins' name linked to the Bills in a lot of places...which means there is a 0% chance they draft him.

- buffalofan19


Ed Oliver was heavily linked to Buffalo.

This isn't FootballBuzz with Eggland.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:07 AM ET
https://theathletic.com/1531087/2020/01/14/bills-core-four-free-agents-where-do-they-fit-into-the-teams-plans/

I have to be honest. The only names here I would be upset with are Phillips and Spain. Although, Harrison Phillips' return would soften the blow of a Jordan departure.

Shaq Lawson played himself into a contract he'll never be able to live up to.

- buffalofan19


Joe did a nice job breaking these situations down.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:08 AM ET
Higgins,Shenault
do we risk 2/3 round with like Claypool, gabriel,Pittman Jr,Rogers,Gandy-Golden etc

- hubie


The Saints had no problem risking that Michael Thomas guy in the 2nd round.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:10 AM ET
Do something Darcy
Murray traded everyone
Now fix it all, Botts.

- Khmylev



He has CTE
NO way he can be trusted
Do not hire Shero
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:10 AM ET
The Saints had no problem risking that Michael Thomas guy in the 2nd round.
- TheSabresTaco


Bum.... lol

Feel that a good one or two could fall into the 2nd. The good news is the player doesnt have to be out leading WR, just having the option there is goign to help
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:15 AM ET
Bum.... lol

Feel that a good one or two could fall into the 2nd. The good news is the player doesnt have to be out leading WR, just having the option there is goign to help

- hubie


Guys picked ahead of Michael Thomas. Laquan Treadwell, Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Josh Doctson, Sterling Shepard.

Cool


Beane is 0/0 with Day 1 and 2 WRs. Let's hope he goes 1/1.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:15 AM ET
So what happened
- TheSabresTaco

he sucks
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Jan 14 @ 9:16 AM ET
He has CTE
NO way he can be trusted
Do not hire Shero

- Powerslave


Beady liked my post
I am getting excited
Oops, I blasted, damn!
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:19 AM ET
Guys picked ahead of Michael Thomas. Laquan Treadwell, Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Josh Doctson, Sterling Shepard.

Cool


Beane is 0/0 with Day 1 and 2 WRs. Let's hope he goes 1/1.

- TheSabresTaco



So far, I think Beane has earned the benefit of the doubt no matter what he does here (within reason, of course). If they go receiver Day 2 instead of 1, I don't think I will be too upset unless it's a name out of nowhere.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:19 AM ET
Guys picked ahead of Michael Thomas. Laquan Treadwell, Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Josh Doctson, Sterling Shepard.

Cool


Beane is 0/0 with Day 1 and 2 WRs. Let's hope he goes 1/1.

- TheSabresTaco


Treadwell was a freaking beast i still cant believe that one.
With Coleman and Doctson I feel like those fast guys never had to learn how to run routes and work the position
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:20 AM ET
So far, I think Beane has earned the benefit of the doubt no matter what he does here (within reason, of course). If they go receiver Day 2 instead of 1, I don't think I will be too upset unless it's a name out of nowhere.
- buffalofan19

+1
I think ive turned the corner to trusting him
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:21 AM ET
Higgins,Shenault
do we risk 2/3 round with like Claypool, gabriel,Pittman Jr,Rogers,Gandy-Golden etc

- hubie



https://theathletic.com/1...-in-two-round-projection/

This mock doesn't even have Claypool in the first two rounds. Stripes opened me up to the idea of him.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:22 AM ET
So far, I think Beane has earned the benefit of the doubt no matter what he does here (within reason, of course). If they go receiver Day 2 instead of 1, I don't think I will be too upset unless it's a name out of nowhere.
- buffalofan19


https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp
Im always trade back guy what about

Buf1 (780pts)
to Chicago 2 2nds 43,50 (470+400)

My prayer is
Indy
34+44 (560+460)
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:22 AM ET
+1
I think ive turned the corner to trusting him

- hubie



I've probably jinxed this.

"Beane will draft a big receiver in rounds 1 or 2" is the new "Botterill will trade for a 2nd line center in the summer".
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.10.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:24 AM ET
Beady liked my post
I am getting excited
Oops, I blasted, damn!

- Khmylev



Clean up in aisle 3
Beady was your centerfold
Have a "post-blast" cigarette
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:27 AM ET
Backstrom 5 yrs 46 mill
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:27 AM ET
https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp
Im always trade back guy what about

Buf1 (780pts)
to Chicago 2 2nds 43,50 (470+400)

My prayer is
Indy
34+44 (560+460)

- hubie


Those would both be trades that I would probably feel better about when I woke up the morning after day 1...because I most likely would be drunk at a day 1 draft party.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:31 AM ET
Those would both be trades that I would probably feel better about when I woke up the morning after day 1...because I most likely would be drunk at a day 1 draft party.
- buffalofan19


very true
im on the fence about the 1st like i know we need OL but next years class of OL is amazing. We can find a guy in free agency for a stop gap.
BUt then i dont want to draft a DE/LB/CB in the 1st
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 14 @ 9:34 AM ET

very true
im on the fence about the 1st like i know we need OL but next years class of OL is amazing. We can find a guy in free agency for a stop gap.
BUt then i dont want to draft a DE/LB/CB in the 1st

- hubie



I can live with a DE, especially if Lawson walks.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:39 AM ET
Beane Hits/Misses over 2 years, based on draft position:

1. Josh Allen-hit
1. Tremaine Edmunds-hit
3. Harrison Phillips-hit
4. Taron Johnson-hit
5. Siran Neal-hit
5. Wyatt Teller-hit (starts for Browns)
6. Ray-Ray McCloud-hit (special teams)
7. Austin Proehl-miss

1. Ed Oliver-hit
2. Cody Ford-hit
3. Devin Singletary-hit
3. Dawson Knox-hit
5. Vosean Joseph-INC
6. Jaquan johnson-INC
7. Darryl Johnson Jr.-INC
7.Tommy Sweeney-INC

Too early to say for 2019 class, but so far, Beane's only had one clear miss. The second last pick of the 2018 draft. When you do any two year sample of Doug Whaley's draft, it's embarrassing and hilarious.

2015:

2. Ronald Darby-hit
3. John Miller-hit, but bad
5. Karlos Williams-miss
6. Tony Steward-miss
6. Nick O'Leary-hit
7. Dezmin Lewis-miss

2016:

1. Shaq Lawson-miss, considering it took 4 years for him to be good. But eventual hit.
2. Reggie Ragland-huge miss, considering how much he plays and how much we gave up for him.
3. Adolphus Washington-miss
4. Cardale Jones-lol
5. Jonathan Williams-miss
6. Kolby Listenbee-miss
6. Kevon Seymour-miss

Third year, 2014, bonus round

1. Sammy Watkins-Whaley got KO'd
2. Cyrus Kouandjio-miss
3. Preston Brown-hit
4. Ross Cockrell-miss
5. Cyril Richardson-miss
7. Randall Johnson-miss
7. Seantrel Henderson-tough one. Based on ability and draft position, this was a huge hit. It'd be a real hit if he wasn't so medically challenged.


Once Whaley was paired with McDermott, the results were, unsurprisingly, something in between Beane and Whaley. And yes, I realize McDermott was a co-GM during the 2017 draft.

1. Tre White-HIT
2. Zay Jones-Swing and miss based on position and compensation
2. Dion Dawkins-hit
5. Matt Milano-HIT

The rest of the draft wasn't recorded so we don't know what came after Milano.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:39 AM ET
I can live with a DE, especially if Lawson walks.
- buffalofan19

Thats where I would be big on the trade back
Everyone loves the Penn St kid and will be long gone
so guys like raequan davis or Epenesa (Iowa) are nice btu Id rather accumulate assests
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:51 AM ET
Thats where I would be big on the trade back
Everyone loves the Penn St kid and will be long gone
so guys like raequan davis or Epenesa (Iowa) are nice btu Id rather accumulate assests

- hubie


I really wouldn't be surprised to see the Bills trade out of the first round. But it's definitely uncharacteristic of Beane. I think he does it if he sees similar talent in the 2nd than late 1st. WR as of late seems to be a very challenging position for GMs to find and draft correctly. Beane's propensity to find smart, hard workers (not simply the most talented) has really paid off.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.16.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:53 AM ET
The Capitals organization said they want both to retire with the team and transition into management roles of some type. Ovi will play until he hits 900 goals, he will be like Jagr. I hope he breaks the record.
- BeadyEyedDouche


Barring a drop off of his .608 gpg he needs roughly 4 more seasons to break the record. He’s also never had a major injury.

My guess is it takes him 6 more seasons.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:56 AM ET
Barring a drop off of his .608 gpg he needs roughly 4 more seasons to break the record. He’s also never had a major injury.

My guess is it takes him 6 more seasons.

- dadeadhead


Guy plays a hard game. I'd be very impressed to see him cruise through the next 3-4 seasons without getting broken a bunch. Basically all power forwards his age have injury problems. And they've all severely declined in productivity.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 14 @ 10:03 AM ET
I really wouldn't be surprised to see the Bills trade out of the first round. But it's definitely uncharacteristic of Beane. I think he does it if he sees similar talent in the 2nd than late 1st. WR as of late seems to be a very challenging position for GMs to find and draft correctly. Beane's propensity to find smart, hard workers (not simply the most talented) has really paid off.
- TheSabresTaco


are they being drafted correctly but have bad qb's?
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