Do you now how long it,can take to rebuild when there is nothing. Tim Murray takes over Buffalo had the 2nd ranked prospect pool, Tim Murray gets let go, and Botts takes over the 26th ranked prospect pool
- Buff36

Two of Murray’s three top picks were in the NHL after a year dropping that ranking. He wasted a lot of picks trading but two holes on this team are a #2 Center and goalie both who have been very good the last two years who Botts just gave away. Botts takes blame for that

I’ve been saying it and it will remain true

Until the team starts hitting home runs (like Olofsson) in the draft, we won’t be a true contender.

The team we played last night has like 8 dudes drafted after the first round making an impact
- sbroads24

I think that understates things. We drafted 4 forwards in the top 10 recently (too soon to include Cozens), and have 1 difference maker in our lineup from it.

I listed the middle round picks, we couldn't find bottom 6 guys.

I don't see how we are supposed to trade our way out of this, when we struck out so badly.

Two of Murray’s three top picks were in the NHL after a year dropping that ranking. He wasted a lot of picks trading but two holes on this team are a #2 Center and goalie both who have been very good the last two years who Botts just gave away. Botts takes blame for that
- Fattony1187

The drunk and the guy who didn't want to be here and the owner said trade him

Allen is having one if the best seasons of any current nfl qb. Check the stats and the playoff position.
I just dont get the allen bashing. Hes a 2nd year guy, playing solid football. 3 good games- wake up

Oh, a couple rumor mill guys said something.
You take it as fact.

That says it all.
- Boss34

When tsn and sportsNet guys like Friedman, Lebrun, and dreger have the same reports. Yes, I 100% believe botts has been trying to make a trade.

As for Allen his “stats”

Allen: 3,089 yards passing 20 tds and 9 ints That is not even close to “one of the best seasons of any nfl qb”.

That’s laughable.

I’ve been saying it and it will remain true

Until the team starts hitting home runs (like Olofsson) in the draft, we won’t be a true contender.

The team we played last night has like 8 dudes drafted after the first round making an impact
- sbroads24

johnson undrafted
killron 3rd
palat 7th
kuch 2nd
paquette 4th
point 2nd
cirelli 3rd
gourde undrafted


when players are not gonna stick around , they move them
bishop for cernak
droun for sergachev
the trade with the ranger to get miller and mcdonagh
miller for a first and a third


etc.etc , etc


kicker their prospects are ranked on par with ours

https://www.sportingnews....nqetpe1bdimp1ao3xl52v0hd0

When tsn and sportsNet guys like Friedman, Lebrun, and dreger have the same reports. Yes, I 100% believe botts has been trying to make a trade.
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- Sabretooth9

like the shopping of risto?

Two of Murray’s three top picks were in the NHL after a year dropping that ranking. He wasted a lot of picks trading but two holes on this team are a #2 Center and goalie both who have been very good the last two years who Botts just gave away. Botts takes blame for that
- Fattony1187

I don't see how you give JB any flak over Lehner. Qualifying him would have been stupid.

like the shopping of risto?




- homiedclown

If all the reporters are saying the same thing or close to the same thing. Yes I think he’s trying to make a move

Allen: 3,089 yards passing 20 tds and 9 ints That is not even close to “one of the best seasons of any nfl qb”.

That’s laughable.
- Sabretooth9

you said he had 3 above average games

which is false

7 games last season he had a qb rating 12 points higher then average


there is more to football then the stats on the back of the bubble gum card

he won 10 out of 15 games


then in the 5 losses
pats, pats, ravens, browns

he had a chance to get the tying or go ahead score (tech not in the first pats game where they knocked him out with cheap shot)



so his only bad game, vs the eagles, he had an o coach that wanted him to throw in 50 mph winds instead of run


but continute

If all the reporters are saying the same thing or close to the same thing. Yes I think he’s trying to make a move
- Sabretooth9

he never actively shopped risto though


despite what they all said

if botts has a secure job with the sabres, the last thing he should do is make a big splash

sell off assets and build the pipeline


the time to make a splash was a month ago


if his job is on the fence, he needs to make montour like trades, but ones to improve the offense

Let's agree on one thing here jcrags:

One of the worst moves jbotts has made, is signing a guy to 2 million $. That same guy has 0 goals.

Same guy is undermining his teammates like a snake in the grass. Just like bogo right? Not being supportive, demanding a trade. What a joke.


That is your favorite player.

And you criticize jbotts 😀







Constantly
- Boss34

You must have missed the part where I said JB should waive or trade them both. The team can't have malcontents.

And yes, all of these situations are JB's fault. He runs the team. Team sucks and the players are in open revolt.

What a job, JB. At least we have 12 defensemen

Attention JCRAGS:

Solid work as usual by #Sabres game pres staff to spotlight ERod on the jumbotron as he's standing around in warmup not taking line rushes and two hours after his trade request surfaces. Way to have a feel for what's going on. Gotta finish the year strong.

Happy new year.

It just keeps getting worse. Erod doesnt score a goal all season, requests a trade and now: displays his true colors as a bad teammate.

Could you please compare bogo and erod in your own words. This seems worse then bogo....who you killed in weeks worth of postings.
- Boss34

You have a problem.


You got your wish last night, and if anything it was MORE dirty than ever! Face punchers are not the answer. Yeah, it's entertaining. You know what's more entertaining? Scoring goals, winning. I'll take that Eichel goal over a fight any day of the week, and I like fights.

you said he had 3 above average games

which is false

7 games last season he had a qb rating 12 points higher then average


there is more to football then the stats on the back of the bubble gum card

he won 10 out of 15 games


then in the 5 losses
pats, pats, ravens, browns

he had a chance to get the tying or go ahead score (tech not in the first pats game where they knocked him out with cheap shot)



so his only bad game, vs the eagles, he had an o coach that wanted him to throw in 50 mph winds instead of run


but continute
- homiedclown

Allen is at 193 yards per game this year. That is very low and is yet to have a 300 yard game.

The loses are a better indicator where Allen is at. Beating the dolphins, red skins, bengals, and teams that were tanking tells me nothing about Allen at QB.

I think Allen has a long way to go ..... most people here think he’s good.

My goal for a franchise qb is to get an elite QB. I do not want to watch 5-6+ years of Andy dalton. Joe Flacco or an average qb.

Many other people’s opinion is: hey he’s good Enough

That is a loser mentality. That’s like the Sabres tanking and ending up with Strome thinking he’s “good enough.”

Strive for better .....

I don’t think Allen is a bust. I just think he has a long long way to go and he hasn’t shown any strides to getting better

Barely 3,000 yards in a pass first league where the rules are help the passing game. That is not enough for me to say Allen is good or projecting well

Allen is at 193 yards per game this year. That is very low and is yet to have a 300 yard game.

The loses are a better indicator where Allen is at. Beating the dolphins, red skins, bengals, and teams that were tanking tells me nothing about Allen at QB.

I think Allen has a long way to go ..... most people here think he’s good.

My goal for a franchise qb is to get an elite QB. I do not want to watch 5-6+ years of Andy dalton. Joe Flacco or an average qb.

Many other people’s opinion is: hey he’s good Enough

That is a loser mentality. That’s like the Sabres tanking and ending up with Strome thinking he’s “good enough.”

Strive for better .....

I don’t think Allen is a bust. I just think he has a long long way to go and he hasn’t shown any strides to getting better

Barely 3,000 yards in a pass first league where the rules are help the passing game. That is not enough for me to say Allen is good or projecting well
- Sabretooth9

That's where you lose everyone.

I don’t think Allen is a bust. I just think he has a long long way to go and he hasn’t shown any strides to getting better


- Sabretooth9

have you been in an underground bunker for the last 4 months w/o a tv or radio?

What's the Sabres prospect pool ranking?

https://www.google.com/am...-18-buffalo-sabres/%3famp

Oh yeah, 18th

Another stellar accomplishment for JB
- jcragcrumple

But TIM MURRAY!!!

That's where you lose everyone.
- Lunaion

This.

But TIM MURRAY!!!
- Wetbandit1

And again, put Dahlin and Joker in that list (as 95% of the league's defensemen don't sniff a regular spot at 20 years or younger), and that ranking jumps 10 spots, easy.

That's where you lose everyone.
- Lunaion

52 to 58% completion % ..... that is still low for an nfl starting QB.

But hey. He loves buffalo. So they goes up 10% just because of that I guess

And again, put Dahlin and Joker in that list (as 95% of the league's defensemen don't sniff a regular spot at 20 years or younger), and that ranking jumps 10 spots, easy.
- Powerslave

I guess Botts should be punished for players making the NHL roster too early.

I guess Botts should be punished for players making the NHL roster too early.
- Pegullaville

Precisely.

And is Johansson on that list? If he's not, he will be now, heading into next year.

Allen is at 193 yards per game this year. That is very low and is yet to have a 300 yard game.

The loses are a better indicator where Allen is at. Beating the dolphins, red skins, bengals, and teams that were tanking tells me nothing about Allen at QB.

I think Allen has a long way to go ..... most people here think he’s good.

My goal for a franchise qb is to get an elite QB. I do not want to watch 5-6+ years of Andy dalton. Joe Flacco or an average qb.

Many other people’s opinion is: hey he’s good Enough

That is a loser mentality. That’s like the Sabres tanking and ending up with Reinhart thinking he’s “good enough.”

Strive for better .....

I don’t think Allen is a bust. I just think he has a long long way to go and he hasn’t shown any strides to getting better

Barely 3,000 yards in a pass first league where the rules are help the passing game. That is not enough for me to say Allen is good or projecting well
- Sabretooth9

Fixed it for you.

However Allen has improved this year though from last year.

I think this season is a failure though without a playoff victory, would be a waste of the 2nd best defence in the NFL this year.

And again, put Dahlin and Joker in that list (as 95% of the league's defensemen don't sniff a regular spot at 20 years or younger), and that ranking jumps 10 spots, easy.
- Powerslave

"If you count the #1 overall pick from 2 years ago as a prospect, it looks great!"

"If you count the #1 overall pick from 2 years ago as a prospect, it looks great!"
- jcragcrumple

Oh, well.

Haters gonna hate.