Lots of overrating Mittelstadt and underrating Toffoli

If they can get him with an extension in place its a good deal.
- Sabresfan-365

I guess the question is, with the bottcoin currently in the bank, how can you swing an extended Toffoli and JGP?

Olo. Jack. Samson
Skinner. JGP. Toffoli.

Fill the rest in, keep Vesey, if he’s cheap enough. As well as Larson.

Even with an extension in place I don’t make that move. For a 23 year old Toffoli I would, not the 27 year old who has been know his whole career as someone who lacked foot speed. Do you think he’s going to get faster ?
- Pegullaville

No, but I also think that his on ice results have been excellent despite his foot speed. Which tells me his game is likely to hold up for long enough that he's worth an extension.

I guess the question is, with the bottcoin currently in the bank, how can you swing an extended Toffoli and JGP?

Olo. Jack. Samson
Skinner. JGP. Toffoli.

Fill the rest in, keep Vesey, if he’s cheap enough. As well as Larson.
- Gr8daygo

I think you'd have to pick one or the other

There it is mojo! I guess mojo, got his... mojo ... back....

if there's an extension in place its a deal for X amount of years, not a rental.
- Sabresfan-365

That would be the only way, and even then I’d want more coming back.

We saw the value Nylander had.

And Mitts has a double digit goal season at age 20.

He shouldn’t be written off, at all

Even with an extension in place I don’t make that move. For a 23 year old Toffoli I would, not the 27 year old who has been know his whole career as someone who lacked foot speed. Do you think he’s going to get faster ?
- Pegullaville

Doesn't matter how you look at it, age, speed, whatever, you're not going to get the player you want. Botterill will get the players he feels will work.

Good to see and hear Lorentz again,
- SABRES 89

That and the goal horn / song ...... good times

If they are sellers this year its not a good deal at all
- ieetbred

Wingers are interchangeable. We just got a top 6 winger for a pile of Pu and now we are going to trade an 8th overall pick for a rental....

I guess the question is, with the bottcoin currently in the bank, how can you swing an extended Toffoli and JGP?

Olo. Jack. Samson
Skinner. JGP. Toffoli.

Fill the rest in, keep Vesey, if he’s cheap enough. As well as Larson.
- Gr8daygo

Regardless who the 2nd line center is, you put Skinner on the 1st line, end of story.

Lots of overrating Mittelstadt and underrating Toffoli

If they can get him with an extension in place its a good deal.
- Sabresfan-365

The name in bold is like the bat signal for you 😂😂😅😅

That would be the only way, and even then I’d want more coming back.

We saw the value Nylander had.

And Mitts has a double digit goal season at age 20.

He shouldn’t be written off, at all
- sbroads24

Remember who you're talking with regarding Mittelstadt 😅😄😃😀

Doesn't matter how you look at it, age, speed, whatever, you're not going to get the player you want. Botterill will get the players he feels will work.
- SABRES 89

I’m not saying don’t trade Mitts. I’m just saying I think there is another deal that would make sense.

That would be the only way, and even then I’d want more coming back.

We saw the value Nylander had.

And Mitts has a double digit goal season at age 20.

He shouldn’t be written off, at all
- sbroads24

Nylander was traded for what Chicago thought was there version of Nylander. Its not that Alex had value, just that chicago didn't value Joker.

This would be different, the offers and value is there on Toffoli, and Mitts value has dropped every year.

I don't think trading him for Toffoli is writing him off fwiw. At a reasonable extension, Toffoli would be a huge get.

The name in bold is like the bat signal for you 😂😂😅😅
- kingcong39

Can you blame me?

if there's an extension in place its a deal for X amount of years, not a rental.
- Sabresfan-365

Id like to see mittelstadt get a chance to figure it out at the AHL level before trading him away for someone you can sign in the offseason

Regardless who the 2nd line center is, you put Skinner on the 1st line, end of story.
- SABRES 89

I’m fine with that, swap olo and skinner.

Wingers are interchangeable. We just got a top 6 winger for a pile of Pu and now we are going to trade an 8th overall pick for a rental....
- Pegullaville

A 9M/8yr winger that most folks around here hate.

I’m not saying don’t trade Mitts. I’m just saying I think there is another deal that would make sense.
- Pegullaville

Really ? for who ? who's trading a number 2 center ?

Can they please bring Lorentz back full time for home games?

Rhino ripper

Nylander was traded for what Chicago thought was there version of Nylander. Its not that Alex had value, just that chicago didn't value Joker.

This would be different, the offers and value is there on Toffoli, and Mitts value has dropped every year.

I don't think trading him for Toffoli is writing him off fwiw. At a reasonable extension, Toffoli would be a huge get.
- Sabresfan-365

The part in bold is a misrepresentation and an exaggeration.

Can they please bring Lorentz back full time for home games?
- ImThatGuy

He’s good!

Can they please bring Lorentz back full time for home games?
- ImThatGuy

Reinhart is easily replaced and is only a complimentary piece. ~Hockebuzz

Can they please bring Lorentz back full time for home games?
- ImThatGuy

And keep the goal song!!!