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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
Yeah but a late round pick for bogo. Later in the year when his cap hit is less / money owed is pretty low. I think we could make it work.
- Sabretooth9


It's definitely not impossible.

But the quick swings at "just dump him for a cowpie" is just not that simple.

If the Sabres can move him, it will be for a concession of sorts.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 10:15 AM ET
It's definitely not impossible.

But the quick swings at "just dump him for a cowpie" is just not that simple.

If the Sabres can move him, it will be for a concession of sorts.

- TheSabresTaco



He also has to stay healthy until the deadline, which is 50/50 at best.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:22 AM ET
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1214771577075712001?s=21


I’ve laughed every time I’ve watched this.

- ImThatGuy

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 10:34 AM ET
Gerbe kicking ass in Columbus

Just saying
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
Gerbe kicking ass in Columbus

Just saying

- gerbe75pts

gerbe 5 even strength points in last 8 games

eichel 6 even strength points in last 8 games


gerbe with the better points per 60 over that stretch
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 8 @ 10:42 AM ET
gerbe 5 even strength points in last 8 games

eichel 6 even strength points in last 8 games


gerbe with the better points per 60 over that stretch

- homiedclown

eichel for gerbe straight up.. strike while the iron is still hot
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 10:48 AM ET
gerbe 5 even strength points in last 8 games

eichel 6 even strength points in last 8 games


gerbe with the better points per 60 over that stretch

- homiedclown


All we need is analytics
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:02 AM ET

- homiedclown



https://getyarn.io/yarn-c...12-4cc8-9d76-32b700674654
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:23 AM ET
All we need is analytics
- TheSabresTaco

Can I request a chart?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:24 AM ET
From Craig Custance, his trade bait board.

23. Zach Bogosian, Buffalo Sabres – Bogosian has requested a trade and that’s not an easy request to manage considering he has a cap hit of more than $5 million. “Good luck,” said one executive. But another source said a potential deal was still possible, depending on how much the Sabres were willing to take back in salary.

I was told it was easy to just ditch Bogo on the side of the road.

- TheSabresTaco


He’s tradable near the deadline if we hold half his salary
Teams are always looking for depth defensemen
Especially RH ones
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:27 AM ET
Free pilut and put him with Risto ASAP.

That could be just for practice for yesterday.

We will see today.

According to ralph on GR that Frolik got in last night

- Sabretooth9


If we are gonna play Bogo,
why not put him back with Dahlin?
1- they played well together last year
2- if they look good again, not only does it benefit us on the ice, but it lets other teams see that Bogo can still be a helpful player... and that makes him more tradable (in theory anyways)
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:28 AM ET
Can I request a chart?
- hubie




As you can see, there's building success, then he gets demoted again.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:29 AM ET
If we are gonna play Bogo,
why not put him back with Dahlin?
1- they played well together last year
2- if they look good again, not only does it benefit us on the ice, but it lets other teams see that Bogo can still be a helpful player... and that makes him more tradable (in theory anyways)

- jdfitz77


Because he's terrible.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:29 AM ET
Your defensive pairings:

Pilut-Ristolainen
Dahlin-Miller
Montour-Jokiharju
Bogosian

#Sabres
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
#Sabres lines this morning:

Asplund-Eichel-Reinhart
Frolik-Johansson-Sheary
Vesey-Lazar-Wilson
Girgensons-Larsson-Okposo
Rodrigues
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
gerbe 5 even strength points in last 8 games

eichel 6 even strength points in last 8 games


gerbe with the better points per 60 over that stretch

- homiedclown


A good example of why points/60 is not a stat worth much
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:32 AM ET
Because he's terrible.
- TheSabresTaco


He wasn’t last year with Dahlin
Not only did Bogo look good,
Dahlin looked better with him last year than he has for most of this year
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:34 AM ET
He wasn’t last year with Dahlin
Not only did Bogo look good,
Dahlin looked better with him last year than he has for most of this year

- jdfitz77


This is an insane stretch.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:37 AM ET
Doubt you're wrong, unfortunately. Think we see this.

Asplund-Eichel-Reinhart
Sheary-Johansson-Frolik
Girgensons-Larsson-Okposo
Vesey-Lazar-Wilson

- TheSabresTaco


jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
This is an insane stretch.
- TheSabresTaco


Not really

I’m not saying Bogo was an all star or anything
But yeah, he did look good last year for the most part playing with Dahlin
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
Your defensive pairings:

Pilut-Ristolainen
Dahlin-Miller
Montour-Jokiharju
Bogosian

#Sabres

- adambuffalo


I see Ralph is saving a portion of the fanbase from a full blown stroke.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 8 @ 11:39 AM ET
A lot of pedantic negativity on this board. Perhaps, just perhaps, there are some ideas that would be positive.

What, in reasonable terms, are we looking at next year? I thought the over/under for points would be 91. This year is trending towards that and I expect them to get there.

Assume top line is good with one of the following: a combo of Skinner or Oloffson taking that spot;
Fourth line is good. Complain about the offensive upside but I see heavy (not breakaway) speed that can wear on teams;
Middle six - who will they be? (note I expect Skinner/Oloffson and Johansson being there);
Can 6k be up to the big club next September?
Kreuger is a good coach.

Just wondering what you think should be done and Sega 94 trades are not allowed.



- TC4145




Good Question, I like it.

TDL 2020
A) Dump for draft pics (not going to get them all done)
- Bogo
- Sheary
- Vesey
- Girgensons
- Wilson
- Erod
B) Hockey Trade(s)
- McCabe
- Thompson
- Risto or Montour (prefer it be Risto, but open)
* these are main pieces in a package, not 1:1 moves

Offseason
- trade for a young 2C if not done so at the TDL through hockey trade...either Strome could be available
- sign in FA or a trade a 3RW, assumes Cozens get 2RW duties next season
- Draft BPA in Forward ranks, preferably RW or C
- Resign RFAs
* Larsson
* Reinhart, if under $7.5 with good term, if price is higher, I might consider trading him...but need a replacement so tougher to do
* Montour
* Jokiharju ( not sure if his contract expires)
- Extend Dahlin on a 3 year deal ( sort of an early bridge deal)




TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:39 AM ET
Not really

I’m not saying Bogo was an all star or anything
But yeah, he did look good last year for the most part playing with Dahlin

- jdfitz77


He did not look good. He looked passable. Big difference.

To your point, Dahlin made him acceptable.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
He did not look good. He looked passable. Big difference.

To your point, Dahlin made him acceptable.

- TheSabresTaco


For the sake of argument,
I’ll use your wording

If Bogo looks “passable” again this year,
wouldn’t that make him more tradable?

And yeah, it was common opinion that Dahlin made Bogo look better
But look how Dahlin struggled for much of this year with different partners
Maybe those 2 just click for whatever reason

So if we are gonna play Bogo,
let’s put him in a spot where he can potentially be successful, or “passable” if that’s the exact wording you need

Can always break up the pair if it doesn’t work
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 8 @ 11:46 AM ET
Not really

I’m not saying Bogo was an all star or anything
But yeah, he did look good last year for the most part playing with Dahlin

- jdfitz77


IDK man, he looks shot so far this season, slower, won't play physical.
I'd think they get a conditional 5th or 6th at most from my eye test only.
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