3hour daily drive to and from practice is actually pretty damn far bandit
- jdfitz77

It's not like he moved to Rio. He could easily move back for the season. I don't think he will, but it's not crazy, didn't he put up his house before the season?

Doesn't Rivers commute from San Diego? Plus Brady's rich enough to buy a helicopter.

It's not like he moved to Rio. He could easily move back for the season. I don't think he will, but it's not crazy, didn't he put up his house before the season?

Doesn't Rivers commute from San Diego? Plus Brady's rich enough to buy a helicopter.
- Wetbandit1

True
I guess we’ll have to see
He basically moved to a suburb of nyc though
Both nyc teams have promising young QBs,
but it wouldn’t surprise me if either at least considered Brady if he wanted to play there

Bjugstad is so mediocre
It’s weird that so many ppl seem to like him so much
- jdfitz77

Have you seen our 2c for 1.5 YEARS now. I’ll be happy with a guy that’s actually BEEN a center at the nhl level..

Lazar has 7 points in 17 games. Think the Sabres found something here. 33 point pace. If the Sabres are looking for cheap 30 point forwards for their bottom 6, he's well on his way to a new contract.

Lazar has 7 points in 17 games. Think the Sabres found something here. 33 point pace. If the Sabres are looking for cheap 30 point forwards for their bottom 6, he's well on his way to a new contract.
- TheSabresTaco

Agreed. I’ve liked his play! Resign him! Resign Larson. Get a deal done with Sam. That’s where I am so far. Other than the obvious....

Agreed. I’ve liked his play! Resign him! Resign Larson. Get a deal done with Sam. That’s where I am so far. Other than the obvious....
- Gr8daygo

For his salary, he's exceptional in his defensive role. As far as overall effectiveness, when he's on the ice he prevents 20 more shots than league average per 60. The 30 points from a salary like his is simply a bonus.

For his salary, he's exceptional in his defensive role. As far as overall effectiveness, when he's on the ice he prevents 20 more shots than league average per 60. The 30 points from a salary like his is simply a bonus.
- TheSabresTaco

He’s a perfect 4th line player.

Imagine if Mark Stone was on the Eichel line, he looked so good and Karlson line looked blah

He’s a perfect 4th line player.
- Pegullaville

So

lazar. Larson. Okoposo

In the 4th line defensive roll. Letting girgs walk.

Asplund on the 3rd line next year?

Skinner. Jack. Samson
Olo. Player X. Player Y
Mojo. Asplund. Cozens
Lazar. Larry. Okoposo

Honorable mention...
Mitts
Tage

Is the 2020/21 forward group that close?

Imagine if Mark Stone was on the Eichel line, he looked so good and Karlson line looked blah
- hubie

Then he wouldn't be on the better team. Why don't we just simulate the season based on analytics.

(frank) off, Mark Stone.

So

lazar. Larson. Okoposo

In the 4th line defensive roll. Letting girgs walk.

Asplund on the 3rd line next year?
- Gr8daygo

The hope is that the organization pursues this during the season to see if it goes well. Because he hasn't played with those other two nearly enough.

The hope is that the organization pursues this during the season to see if it goes well. Because he hasn't played with those other two nearly enough.
- TheSabresTaco

Check out the line up edit. The forward group for next year is 2 players from complete? Of course lord knows if botts can fill those two spots competently. He hasn’t gotten close on the 2c in 1.5 seasons now...

Gigensons already has plans to sign with PGH no doubt, his GF would prob like it, dont be surprised if he does

Gigensons already has plans to sign with PGH no doubt, his GF would prob like it, dont be surprised if he does
- BeadyEyedDouche

Ssoooo let’s trade him there now. I’ll take a gally and a bjustead. For a bogo and a Gus.

Yep... all those 2Cs that got traded & Botts did nothing about it

U guys seriously need to let this BS go

Toronto wasn’t trading us Kadri
And none of the other guys Botts blew it on by not trading for them are actually “2C” quality
And it’s speculation to say for sure they’d have been better than MoJo

The beginning part of your post was very interesting me though
Nice info
- jdfitz77

Interesting take...
But here we go.

Recent Center acquisitions (< 4 years)

1-JT Miller
2- ROR
3- R Strome
4- Tavares
5- Schenn
6- E Staal
7- M Domi
8- Seguin
9- Zibanejad
10- E Lindholm
11- D Strome
12- Duchene
13- Kadri
14- Soderberg
15- Hayes
16- McCann
17- Eller
18- Bonino

That's from top 65 point producering C's so far this season....I stopped looking there.
Alert: C who moved, includes FA acquisitions like Tavares, not limited to trades.

The point is, the BS of C not moving needs to stop from the Botts-defenders.

The hope is that the organization pursues this during the season to see if it goes well. Because he hasn't played with those other two nearly enough.
- TheSabresTaco

As much as I like what Krueger has done as a head coach, aside from X&O's (which are responsibilities of his Asst Coaches), more around leadership, motivation, gaining buy-in, etc; this is an area I felt he and other coaches for Sabres have failed at...testing alternatives to see what they have... including switching Sam to 2C.

Interesting take...
But here we go.

Recent Center acquisitions (< 4 years)

1-JT Miller
2- ROR
3- R Strome
4- Tavares
5- Schenn
6- E Staal
7- M Domi
8- Seguin
9- Zibanejad
10- E Lindholm
11- D Strome
12- Duchene
13- Kadri
14- Soderberg
15- Hayes
16- McCann
17- Eller
18- Bonino

That's from top 65 point producering C's so far this season....I stopped looking there.
Alert: C who moved, includes FA acquisitions like Tavares, not limited to trades.

The point is, the BS of C not moving needs to stop from the Botts-defenders.
- IonSabres

You forgot bjustead and gally, twice. Even though ones been hurt and the other has been stuck on the wing but has actually played center in a more recent time frame than botts 2c backup plan (mojo) after mitts couldn’t figure it out again....

Interesting take...
But here we go.

Recent Center acquisitions (< 4 years)

1-JT Miller
2- ROR
3- R Strome
4- Tavares
5- Schenn
6- E Staal
7- M Domi
8- Seguin
9- Zibanejad
10- E Lindholm
11- D Strome
12- Duchene
13- Kadri
14- Soderberg
15- Hayes
16- McCann
17- Eller
18- Bonino

That's from top 65 point producering C's so far this season....I stopped looking there.
Alert: C who moved, includes FA acquisitions like Tavares, not limited to trades.

The point is, the BS of C not moving needs to stop from the Botts-defenders.
- IonSabres

I don't recall anyone here thinking 2Cs are unmovable. True 1Cs moving in trades are unicorn events. I don't consider any centers in Nashville as 1Cs. Seguin was your unicorn event, because Chiarellol

Would anyone here trade Cozens for one of Duchene or Johanson?

You forgot bjustead and gally, twice. Even though ones been hurt and the other has been stuck on the wing but has actually played center in a more recent time frame than botts 2c backup plan (mojo) after mitts couldn’t figure it out again....
- Gr8daygo

Fabbri
Vladislav Namestnikov

Would anyone here trade Cozens for one of Duchene or Johanson?
- TheSabresTaco

No. Need the young elc talent at some point. My current off limits; Cozens, Jack, Dahlin, 6k....

Would anyone here trade Cozens for one of Duchene or Johanson?
- TheSabresTaco

Locked up for 8 mil......
Ill get killed
but ill do it

Ryjo with Skinner could be something to watch

So

lazar. Larson. Okoposo

In the 4th line defensive roll. Letting girgs walk.

Asplund on the 3rd line next year?

Skinner. Jack. Samson
Olo. Player X. Player Y
Mojo. Asplund. Cozens
Lazar. Larry. Okoposo

Honorable mention...
Mitts
Tage

Is the 2020/21 forward group that close?
- Gr8daygo

I mean without knowing what we do in FA/trades I’d say yes. Cozens could fill a top 6 RW role however and you could flip flop Skinner and Olofsson but I agree we are missing two top 9 forwards and a goalie.

You forgot bjustead and gally, twice. Even though ones been hurt and the other has been stuck on the wing but has actually played center in a more recent time frame than botts 2c backup plan (mojo) after mitts couldn’t figure it out again....
- Gr8daygo

Disclaimer said top 65 point producers, is either one in that category?
Galy thinks he's a C, but multiple teams haven't thought so....still, if the asking price is a 4th liner, Sabres have like 7 on their roster...I'd take a flyer for 35 games to see what he can bring.

Pronman's prospect grades, midway:

(Elite NHL prospect: Projects as an impact player, someone who is top 10-15 percent in the NHL at his position.
High-end NHL prospect: Projects as a first-line forward, a top-pair defenseman or a top 10 starting goaltender.)

Elite/High-End Bubble:
2. Dylan Cozens, C, Buffalo (Lethbridge-WHL)

Feb. 9, 2001 | 6-foot-3 | 185 pounds

Drafted: Seventh-overall (2019)
Previous ranking: No. 13

Skating: 60
Puck Skills: 55
Physical Game: 60
Hockey Sense: 60
Shot Grade: 60

Cozens has been a driving force behind a high scoring Lethbridge team and played a major role for Canada’s gold medal effort at the world juniors.

Cozens is not an overly flashy prospect. He doesn’t have Zegras’ vision, Cole Caufield’s shot or Grigori Denisenko’s skill. Cozens is a very well-rounded player, though, without a clear flaw. He’s got great feet and size, can make very good – albeit not elite – offensive plays, competes well, and can play both special teams, center and wing. I’ve loved some of the goals he’s scored this season, as he is showing mid-distance range that will translate to the pros.

There are times you watch Cozens and wonder where the wow factor is, and it’s why I’m hesitant to tag him as a no-doubt impact star in the league. He does everything well though, so while he might be a boring top prospect, he does tick every box you want in an NHL player, in terms of his skill set, character, production with his club and international play, so it’s hard to ask for much more.