BOOM

Game over, take the L fellas
- jdfitz77

2 games in hand

I could say the same thing to you
- hubie

No, bc i didn’t dismiss your opinions as assumptions

You created the double standard by dismissing mine

Probably a bad example there. They have 1 d man under contract at the end of the year and 1 rfa to resign.... how are they going to fit a defense in under that model?
- Gr8daygo

The point was more having 3 guys with 10 mill contracts

can you make our roster

11.5
11
11
7
4.5

using any positions

2 games in hand
- hubie

Big deal
So RyJo makes us 4pts better of those 2games are wins

That doesn’t put us in the playoffs, does it?

No, bc i didn’t dismiss your opinions as assumptions

You created the double standard by dismissing mine
- jdfitz77

Its fine keep being happy not making the playoffs, which is easy to do when you have no skin in the game

all assumptions
But keep playing the wait and hope that a draft pick comes though.
Id hate to live in a world where you dont want to see your team in the playoffs, I know im sick of it

You know cause teams who acquire a top 6 center never win the cup right?
- hubie

Not too sure, but this here kind of sounds like an assumption...

Mind Blown
Ryjo with Skinner he continues to put up 40 annually.
With that top 6 this team makes the playoffs every year.
- hubie

The point was more having 3 guys with 10 mill contracts

can you make our roster

11.5
11
11
7
4.5

using any positions
- hubie

No, the point is that you’re desperate for us to be a playoff team now
And that would be great
But not of it means trading Cozens & hurting the long term goal of becoming legit Cup Contenders

RyJo isn’t a guy that for sure gets us in the playoffs
So thinking he could get us to Cup Contender level is quite the reach

Sec 100
Which I assume you are in as you obviously hit the nail on the head that I left after 2
- hubie

I have a pair in 122

Pretty close by.

Not too sure, but this here kind of sounds like an assumption...
- adambuffalo

It’s only ok for him to make assumptions

Big deal
So RyJo makes us 4pts better of those 2games are wins

That doesn’t put us in the playoffs, does it?
- jdfitz77

so you said earlier a legit 2 c gets us 3-4 wins right? I can go back and quote it if you need

gets you to 55 points 1 out of 3rd to Toronto
you play 2 road games then 5 home games in a row

5 games at home where you play much better wouldn't spring board you ahead of the leaves?

No, the point is that you’re desperate for us to be a playoff team now
And that would be great
But not of it means trading Cozens & hurting the long term goal of becoming legit Cup Contenders

RyJo isn’t a guy that for sure gets us in the playoffs
So thinking he could get us to Cup Contender level is quite the reach
- jdfitz77

so your assuming now which apparently is ok for you to do but not me... good to know

and when Cozens doesnt pan out we can have this discussion again in a year or two

Keep holding onto the future of rainbows

We can agree to disagree its fine nothing i say will change the way you feel. Theres a wall next to my desk I can continue the conversation with

But out of curiosity what 2c would be the right move?
- hubie

Not trading ROR,
but unfortunately Botts was forced to

The Sabres will become a very good team as their youth develops

Not by making desperate moves like trading Cozens for RyJo
Or the PK Subban trade all u guys wanted

U want to target a Center from Nashville?
Go after Bonino
He’s not a “2C” though,
even if Ion wants to pretend he is

so you said earlier a legit 2 c gets us 3-4 wins right? I can go back and quote it if you need

gets you to 55 points 1 out of 3rd to Toronto
you play 2 road games then 5 home games in a row

5 games at home where you play much better wouldn't spring board you ahead of the leaves?
- hubie

Go ahead, I’ll wait...

so your assuming now which apparently is ok for you to do but not me... good to know

and when Cozens doesnt pan out we can have this discussion again in a year or two
- hubie

I never said it wasn’t ok for you to make assumptions
I simply disagreed with yours

That’s different from thinking mine are ok & others aren’t, like you do apparently

Go ahead, I’ll wait...
- jdfitz77

F it was taco.... touche
let me get my white out pen and put your name in there

F it was taco.... touche
let me get my white out pen and put your name in there
- hubie

Just cross it out with magic marker.

They had that 1 year,
and have been disappointing the others...
Right?
- jdfitz77

I mean, define disappointment. He's bee there 4 years correct? This his fifth. They made the finals, lost in round 2 and lost in round 1. It's not all 100% on RyJo for the wins nor the losses Right? I think he's a perfect number 2C (backhalf number 1). Which is what we hope Cozens becomes. Maybe he's already shot, I'll admit I don't watch a ton of Nash games. The ones I have/had watched he was pretty good.

F it was taco.... touche
let me get my white out pen and put your name in there
- hubie

BOOM 😂😂😂

Dude, here’s the thing
RyJo doesn’t make us a great team imo
Trying to rush the rebuild will perpetually keep us on the fringes of the playoffs
And prevent our chances from becoming a legit Contender

The only way the Sabres become legit threats to win the Cup is by continuing to develop the really good young talent we have
Does that mea we have to be patient longer?
Yep
I know that sucks
But I don’t want to continually be the 5th-9th best team in our Conference
I wanna be one of the top3

And RyJo just doesn’t get us there imo
Not even close

BOOM 😂😂😂

Dude, here’s the thing
RyJo doesn’t make us a great team imo
Trying to rush the rebuild will perpetually keep us on the fringes of the playoffs
And prevent our chances from becoming a legit Contender

The only way the Sabres become legit threats to win the Cup is by continuing to develop the really good young talent we have
Does that mea we have to be patient longer?
Yep
I know that sucks
But I don’t want to continually be the 5th-9th best team in our Conference
I wanna be one of the top3

And RyJo just doesn’t get us there imo
Not even close
- jdfitz77

What talent have we developed?

Just cross it out with magic marker.
- buffalofan19

I turned that monitor off, cant see it anymore

BOOM

Game over, take the L fellas
- jdfitz77

We are now hanging team failure on 1 guy now?

If 1 player can't impact a team, why are trades made?

I mean, define disappointment. He's bee there 4 years correct? This his fifth. They made the finals, lost in round 2 and lost in round 1. It's not all 100% on RyJo for the wins nor the losses Right? I think he's a perfect number 2C (backhalf number 1). Which is what we hope Cozens becomes. Maybe he's already shot, I'll admit I don't watch a ton of Nash games. The ones I have/had watched he was pretty good.
- SDSabre

If he was the missing piece to make us a Contender, then sure... go for it
But he’s not
The only way we can afford to fill all the holes we need is to let our youth grow into them

I want us to be in the playoffs now too
But not at the expense of Cozens,
who should be good here for a decade or so
Instead of 60-65pts from RyJo for a few more years

Mind Blown
Ryjo with Skinner he continues to put up 40 annually.
With that top 6 this team makes the playoffs every year.
- hubie

Ok, and if RyJo falls off a cliff in 2 years and Dylan Cozens is a 21 YO 2C we could of had for the next 10 years then what ?

If he was the missing piece to make us a Contender, then sure... go for it
But he’s not
The only way we can afford to fill all the holes we need is to let our youth grow into them

I want us to be in the playoffs now too
But not at the expense of Cozens,
who should be good here for a decade or so
Instead of 60-65pts from RyJo for a few more years
- jdfitz77

assuming cozens plays well
also assumed casey would be good
assumed nylander would be good

when do you sit back and say hey we cant draft and develop

We are now hanging team failure on 1 guy now?

If 1 player can't impact a team, why are trades made?
- IonSabres

Ask the Caps how they feel about the Forsberg for Erat trade & get back to me

Yeah, that’s more extreme
But the point is that Erat wasn’t the guy to get them over the top
And neither is RyJo for us

So giving up a stud prospect is a bad idea