Once again the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame has shown why they are complete trash.
- SABRES 89

They need to just go ahead and rename it the Music Hall of Fame. Drop the rock and roll already. Whitney Houston, Notorious BIG, Janet Jackson and Tupac. Just a few in the last few years.

I know him. Good dude
- jdfitz77

Love him,
my only "gripe is"
Tom youve known me for 30+ years and you still ID me every game
yes i know its a rule but still lol

When we make the playoffs every year we can be in the position to make a bad trade



Was this a photo shop and slept though the cup finals?
- hubie

Hubie

You're my boy and you know it

But come on Washington winning a cup 5 years after that trade when Erat is out of the league?

Has nothing to due with Kuzt, Wilson, and Carlson?

Come on you're better than that

No, it’s not
Kadri was the ONLY 2C that got moved this past year
Going back to 2016 when we weren’t looking for a 2C is ridiculous

Trying to say that some of the guys u listed are “2Cs” is ridiculous

And some of the others don’t even play Center!

Your argument is garbage
- jdfitz77

With all due respect, your argument is garbage. You hold these logical fallacies and argue them as if they were truths. The fact that only Kadri was moved last year doesn’t meant that other Center trades were not possible. It is simply not true, yet you have been saying for a month or more as if it’s a solid argument.

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
These things usually tend to work themselves out, but there has been major friction between Ryan Reaves and Pete DeBoer in that rivalry over the last couple years. Lots of chirping, Reaves hasn't been afraid to go after DeBoer. Will be something to watch.

They need to just go ahead and rename it the Music Hall of Fame. Drop the rock and roll already. Whitney Houston, Notorious BIG, Janet Jackson and Tupac. Just a few in the last few years.
- adambuffalo

B.I.G. what a joke.

Love him,
my only "gripe is"
Tom youve known me for 30+ years and you still ID me every game
yes i know its a rule but still lol
- hubie

I hear ya
He can get fired for not asking though

He used to be a regular of mine back in the day
Super nice guy

Hubie

You're my boy and you know it

But come on Washington winning a cup 5 years after that trade when Erat is out of the league?

Has nothing to due with Kuzt, Wilson, and Carlson?

Come on you're better than that
- Stripes77

all im saying is I want a playoff, is that too much to ask for?
Does player x make us better? if the answer is yes make the move

But making a bad trade can also hurt
Remember when everyone wanted ROR trades bc it wasn’t working with him?

How’d that work out???

Making no trade,
is better than making the wrong one
- jdfitz77

I think you're missing the point of my post.

Some people think the action is to get a player that has proven to be capable at a position of need (Johanson), while others think that making a move for the sake of making a move isn't the right thing.

Let's say you can get Schieffle, or Point, somehow for Cozens+. Not saying you can, but a what if, does the conversation change?

I hear ya
He can get fired for not asking though

He used to be a regular of mine back in the day
Super nice guy
- jdfitz77

Oh I know he can get in trouble its just like youve "known" me forever


When my kid was in day care used to see him on the drive too as he would go what i believe his morning coffee.

With all due respect, your argument is garbage. You hold these logical fallacies and argue them as if they were truths. The fact that only Kadri was moved last year doesn’t meant that other Center trades were not possible. It is simply not true, yet you have been saying for a month or more as if it’s a solid argument.
- Beethoven

It’s just as easy to speculate that nothing was available, right?
So I’ll just stick to what’s known

Otherwise u can blame every GM in the league that doesn’t win the Cup bc they might have possibly been able to make a trade that we don’t know about maybe being possible if they were willing to move the right pieces on a snowy day with a full moon in January if only he’d buttered up another GM with a membership in the jelly of the month club for Xmas

B.I.G. what a joke.
- SABRES 89

What hip hop artists deserve to be in in your opinion 89?

all im saying is I want a playoff, is that too much to ask for?
Does player x make us better? if the answer is yes make the move
- hubie

Does player x make us better...and at what cost? That is the real question. I don't think that there is a "make the playoffs at all cost" ultimatum on this season.

What hip hop artists deserve to be in in your opinion 89?
- jdfitz77

dont they have their own HOF?

I think you're missing the point of my post.

Some people think the action is to get a player that has proven to be capable at a position of need (Johanson), while others think that making a move for the sake of making a move isn't the right thing.

Let's say you can get Schieffle, or Point, somehow for Cozens+. Not saying you can, but a what if, does the conversation change?
- thatsapickle

Yes, it does imo

Bc I’ve said many times that RyJo is overrated & overpaid
I don’t think he’s the right guy to help get us where we wanna be

all im saying is I want a playoff, is that too much to ask for?
Does player x make us better? if the answer is yes make the move
- hubie

That's a loaded question

Does the player make us better now? Sure

Does the player make us better in the long haul? Maybe

Does the player who ranks #2 on Pronman's mid season prospect rankings (Cozen's) have a better chance of making a real impact on this team for the long haul? Maybe

Does the ELC that Cozens have give the GM more flexibility to make other moves? Absolutely

If you swap Johanson with Scheifele you probably get a completely different discussion.
- adambuffalo

Well why in (frank) would I want to make it easy

I think you're missing the point of my post.

Some people think the action is to get a player that has proven to be capable at a position of need (Johanson), while others think that making a move for the sake of making a move isn't the right thing.

Let's say you can get Schieffle, or Point, somehow for Cozens+. Not saying you can, but a what if, does the conversation change?
- thatsapickle

If I could get a Schieffle or Point for Cozens + the conversation is MUCH MUCH different than for Ryan Johansen for Cozens

What hip hop artists deserve to be in in your opinion 89?
- jdfitz77

I know you asked 89, but my opinion is none. It's the Rock and Roll hall of fame.

Sure
It’s not a guarantee that the youth will develop into the studs we need

But in a Salary Cap world,
you can’t trade your way from where we are to being a contender year after year

You do that by drafting & developing
Again, there’s no guarantee we do that

But I’m not gunning for a fringe playoff team that maybe gets lucky and has all the chips fall our way to make a very unlikely & improbable Cup run from 7th/8th place
- jdfitz77

Neither am I.
I'd like a team that contends for years no doubt. It has been long enough.
The team desperately needs a 2C and has for 2 seasons, and will need one for 2 seasons or more, anticipating Cozens development time.

The concept of making a trade for a 2C should be first and foremost in Botts mind.
(Working hard to trade ERod and Bogo should be close to last, let their friggin Agents do the dirty work)

Trading for a Center who has 4, 5, 6 years isn't for this year either, the exact opposite (before you go trolling with that rental crap again) it's for the future. Go get the guy, now if you can make a hockey trade. If Cozens develops and takes the job...trade said player..apparently they are like friggin gold in the market

dont they have their own HOF?
- hubie

Idk?
But there’s been artists making it into the RnR hof from different generals of music besides “rock” for quite a while now

Is it really a joke to include other genres of music?
Especially since so many artists now a days are blending genres together in their own style...

Love him,
my only "gripe is"
Tom youve known me for 30+ years and you still ID me every game
yes i know its a rule but still lol
- hubie

it's like working for the government.

"but you did x, y and z for THAT guy, you should do it for me too!"

then all the sudden your pets heads are falling off.

Gotta keep it square.

What hip hop artists deserve to be in in your opinion 89?
- jdfitz77

Not him, why him, and it's the rock and roll hall of fame.

Neither am I.
I'd like a team that contends for years no doubt. It has been long enough.
The team desperately needs a 2C and has for 2 seasons, and will need one for 2 seasons or more, anticipating Cozens development time.

The concept of making a trade for a 2C should be first and foremost in Botts mind.
(Working hard to trade ERod and Bogo should be close to last, let their friggin Agents do the dirty work)

Trading for a Center who has 4, 5, 6 years isn't for this year either, the exact opposite (before you go trolling with that rental crap again) it's for the future. Go get the guy, now if you can make a hockey trade. If Cozens develops and takes the job...trade said player..apparently they are like friggin gold in the market
- IonSabres

Except on this situation, Cozens is gone!
Did u miss that?

Not him, why him, and it's the rock and roll hall of fame.
- SABRES 89

I’m not a Biggie fan
But he’s commonly held to being one of the best hip hop artists of all time

And of u wanna challenge why a hip hop artist is in the Rock n Roll hall of fame,
then you’re gonna have to do that for all the artists from different genres that aren’t “Rock”

Or just accept that calling it the Rock & Roll hall of fame sounds better than the music hall of fame,
and that all different genres will be considered