Not if Eichel has an MVP caliber season it isn’t.

What I’ve said all along is I need to see the underlying numbers get better.

Defensively they have. A lot better.

Offensively it hasn’t

And that’s mainly because Mittelstadt sucked
- sbroads24

keep eichel, skinner, dahlin, joker, pilut, olofsson
maybe skunk
and either risto or montour


blow the rest up

I would look to Calgary for a couple players. Jankowski and Bennett seem to fallen out of favor. Won’t be huge pieces but jankowski can play Center and Bennett plays with some grit. Sub out Rodriguez and someone else.
- Fattony1187

Those seems like reasonable, somewhat modest moves. Hard to picture them being made in-season. Maybe, maaaaaybe in the offseason??

He literally said "we have to be in the conversation for the playoffs" over the summer.

He thought theyd better

Narrator: "they were not"
- jcragcrumple

Technically, we were all talking about the playoffs into November. 🤔
And I'm not giving up on this season still.

That's sales talk 101 anyways.

I would love to wager (friendly) something that Botterill will 100% be gm at the start of next season .

Pegs likes him. He is doing what he said. The turnover in management is not happening. Too soon, in my opinion.

1st year - obviously they wanted dahlin, svech or tkachuk
2nd year- still have bogo, moulson, okposo on the payroll
3rd year- lots of injuries. Pretty much a 2nd line
Skins- sobatka - tage t
New coach, it takes time

beaulieu out, joker in
nelson out, montour in
tage out, johansson in
berglund out, vesey in

housley out, kruger in


insert a rookie of the year potential player in olofsson for sobotka
dahlin's second year
eichel turns into superstar

same results

only in buffalo

I would love to wager (friendly) something that Botterill will 100% be gm at the start of next season .


- Boss34

if we are a bottom 5 team


he gone

Technically, we were all talking about the playoffs into November. 🤔
And I'm not giving up on this season still.

That's sales talk 101 anyways.

I would love to wager (friendly) something that Botterill will 100% be gm at the start of next season .

Pegs likes him. He is doing what he said. The turnover in management is not happening. Too soon, in my opinion.

1st year - obviously they wanted dahlin, svech or tkachuk
2nd year- still have bogo, moulson, okposo on the payroll
3rd year- lots of injuries. Pretty much a 2nd line
Skins- sobatka - tage t
New coach, it takes time
- Boss34

Need 54 or so points in 41 games

22-9-10

Or 25-11-5

That ought to do it


I cant even seriously respond to the 2nd line Sobotka comment

Need 54 or so points in 41 games

22-9-10

Or 25-11-5


- jcragcrumple

don't hold your breath

He was never looking to make any big trades anyway, I mentioned that before. Why people are looking for that is beyond me.

Why people keep blaming Murray is another head scratcher, he was told by Pegula and Wonder Women to speed things up and he did that.

Botterill got nothing for ROR, NOTHING and NOTHING for Kane but Murray gets most of the blame.

Money isn't an object but now we are dumping salary, he will not eat any money or contracts, no way will he ever do that.
- SABRES 89

Why would you question fans clamoring for a trade?
The team has holes all over it, of course a trade, multiple trades are required. Vogel explains the WHY to the don't expect any additional help rather than just saying it.

Manish Mehta is amazing and poopty all at once.
- TheSabresTaco

Manish is a (frank)ing idiot.

Welp. As I post, Dalton Smith on waivers.
- TheSabresTaco

..and this organization is a (frank)ing joke.

“He was told to speed up the rebuild by ownership.”
“Stop whining about Murray, it doesn’t help.”
“What’s another five years? You’re being so impatient.”
- PrinceChill

But wasn't Botts told to trade ROR and Kane by ownership. Maybe he would have gotten a better trade value if 1 was owed a 7mill bonus and the other wasn't a UFA.

USA down 1-0 to Finland...15:00 to go

Why would you question fans clamoring for a trade?
The team has holes all over it, of course a trade, multiple trades are required. Vogel explains the WHY to the don't expect any additional help rather than just saying it.
- IonSabres

I don't care what Vogel says and i've explained it countless times now, Botterill isn't going to make any big deals because he will wait to see what Reinhart costs him and with Dahlin coming up also. I'll take who I get my info from all day long over John Vogel.

USA down 1-0 to Finland...15:00 to go
- Stripes77

I don't understand how Finland ended up #3 in their pool.

beaulieu out, joker in
nelson out, montour in
tage out, johansson in
berglund out, vesey in

housley out, kruger in


insert a rookie of the year potential player in olofsson for sobotka
dahlin's second year
eichel turns into superstar

same results

only in buffalo
- homiedclown

Pommer out?
Erod resigned

Why would you question fans clamoring for a trade?
The team has holes all over it, of course a trade, multiple trades are required. Vogel explains the WHY to the don't expect any additional help rather than just saying it.
- IonSabres

Link please ion

beaulieu out, joker in
nelson out, montour in
tage out, johansson in
berglund out, vesey in

housley out, kruger in


insert a rookie of the year potential player in olofsson for sobotka
dahlin's second year
eichel turns into superstar

same results

only in buffalo
- homiedclown

It's absolutely incredible how inept the organization appears.

There may be things happening, or working themselves out, but it feels like I'm a hamster in the wheel going nowhere fast.

Thank you for your contributions. Enjoyed reading every one of them. Best of luck with your future endeavor's.

USA down 1-0 to Finland...15:00 to go
- Stripes77

pp goal is the difference

go figure

It's absolutely incredible how inept the organization appears.

There may be things happening, or working themselves out, but it feels like I'm a hamster in the wheel going nowhere fast.
- thatsapickle

I drank the kool aid the last 2 falls

very frustrating as both times I thought we were turning the corner

beaulieu out, joker in
nelson out, montour in
tage out, johansson in
berglund out, vesey in

housley out, kruger in


insert a rookie of the year potential player in olofsson for sobotka
dahlin's second year
eichel turns into superstar

same results

only in buffalo
- homiedclown

Every one of those moves are an upgrade on paper.

Why the (frank) are we so bad?

Every one of those moves are an upgrade on paper.

Why the (frank) are we so bad?
- Powerslave

coaching

Every one of those moves are an upgrade on paper.

Why the (frank) are we so bad?
- Powerslave

I still stand by that we aren’t actually bad.

Our PP will get going again.

We will stop taking a massive amount of back to back to back penalties like we have been.

It’s not gonna surprise me when we rattle off 5 in a row soon

I still stand by that we aren’t actually bad.

Our PP will get going again.

We will stop taking a massive amount of back to back to back penalties like we have been.

It’s not gonna surprise me when we rattle off 5 in a row soon
- sbroads24

I can't wait until we do.

Just for the comments alone, in here.

Every one of those moves are an upgrade on paper.

Why the (frank) are we so bad?
- Powerslave

-No real second line
-PK sucks
-PP is mediocre
-not enough fire power to hang with the big dogs in track meet
-not good enough defensively to shut them down

I think that about sums it up