Haha. Gotta get a backup though. Looks like you guys are running Fredish into the ground.
- DrunkenCanuck

Hellebuyck has played 1 more game than Freddy and no one talks about that.

Edit: basically evey other starter has the same amount of games played.

Unfortunately our backup hasn't gotten us very many wins. That's the only difference.

Hellebuyck has played 1 more game than Freddy and no one talks about that.
- LeafGuy89

no one cares about the jets?

or are you saying they need hutch back?

Hellebuyck has played 1 more game than Freddy and no one talks about that.
- LeafGuy89

This is true. Kind of like how 16 of 31 teams are right against the cap but Leafs are the posterboys for "Cap Hell".

no one cares about the jets?

or are you saying they need hutch back?
- Tumbleweed

Lmao. We could swap him for Broissoit if they would like.

you're in banana land.

PP under babcock last 3 years: 2nd, 2nd, 8th

2019-20, babcock vs keefe, toi:
matthews 19:50 vs 20:15
nylander 18:00 vs 17:37
marner 19:40 vs 22:15
tavares 18:26 vs 20:24

marner and tavares are playing signigicantly more than they were. but you are oblivious to that. nylander and matthews are about the same.

listen. keefe is getting more out of the lineup this year. but it's clear that you don't understand why.
- Tumbleweed

Now do E/S...

Hellebuyck has played 1 more game than Freddy and no one talks about that.

Edit: basically evey other starter has the same amount of games played.

Unfortunately our backup hasn't gotten us very many wins. That's the only difference.
- LeafGuy89

True, but no one really cares outside of that Siberian Swamp.
I think other teams may start load managing their starters down the stretch. If the Leaves picked up Miller, they would have that option.

Now do E/S...
- RogerRoeper

- Tumbleweed

Nylander was benched for almost the entire 3rd period of the game against the Wings. So, his ice time will be lower... Since that game, he's been really good.

Justin Williams is coming back. Announcement expected on HNIC. (Hometown Hockey is in his hometown this weekend)

- Tumbleweed

But it's a big difference.

True, but no one really cares outside of that Siberian Swamp.
I think other teams may start load managing their starters down the stretch. If the Leaves picked up Miller, they would have that option.
- DrunkenCanuck

Yeah but but but Sportsnet and TSn have to talk about the Jets more...


The "Concerns" about the Leafs are always overhyped and seem like bigger issues than any other team. I actually had a Jets fan yesterday mocking the Leafs "Horrible" Defence.

Justin Williams is coming back. Announcement expected on HNIC. (Hometown Hockey is in his hometown this weekend)
- BINGO!

Leafs could use a guy with his winning attitude and aging skillset

Leafs could use a guy with his winning attitude and aging skillset
- TheMussel

Give him 3 years 18 million. He's at the marleau stage

Justin Williams is coming back. Announcement expected on HNIC. (Hometown Hockey is in his hometown this weekend)
- BINGO!

Great... Carolina is a good place for him..

Leafs could use a guy with his winning attitude and aging skillset
- TheMussel

Great... Carolina is a good place for him..
- PatC80

Not a fan? lol

Leafs could use a guy with his winning attitude and aging skillset
- TheMussel

Loui Erickson (retained) for Ceci and Goat?

Yeah but but but Sportsnet and TSn have to talk about the Jets more...


The "Concerns" about the Leafs are always overhyped and seem like bigger issues than any other team. I actually had a Jets fan yesterday mocking the Leafs "Horrible" Defence.
- RogerRoeper

Jets have allowed 120 goals to Leafs' 132 in one less game... not exactly defensive juggernauts

Not a fan? lol
- BINGO!

Of Justin Williams? I'm sure we can find other 38 yr old depth wingers..

Jets have allowed 120 goals to Leafs' 132 in one less game... not exactly defensive juggernauts
- TheMussel

Jets have elite goaltending.


The hype about the Leafs is Freddy saves them every game. The stats don't support this. Halleybuck is a Vezina candidate and carrying the Jets.

Jets have allowed 120 goals to Leafs' 132 in one less game... not exactly defensive juggernauts
- TheMussel

Jets have elite goaltending.


The hype about the Leafs is Freddy saves them every game. The stats don't support this. Halleybuck is a Vezina candidate and carrying the Jets.

But all we heard is Freddy is the best and the Leafs stink without him. Again, Toronto hype.

Of Justin Williams? I'm sure we can find other 38 yr old depth wingers..
- PatC80

I guess. I mean he did have 53 points last year. No idea if he still has it, though.

Nylander was benched for almost the entire 3rd period of the game against the Wings. So, his ice time will be lower... Since that game, he's been really good.
- PatC80

roper's point was nylander was playing more under keefe, therefore scoing more.

i blame myself. i need to stop discussing his nonsense.

nylander is good. my pre-season prediction (which can be easily located, not just made up):

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Nylander. somehow under rated for his talent.

W. Nylander, RW 28g, 45a

Lmao. We could swap him for Broissoit if they would like.
- LeafGuy89

wouldn't be a bad idea. broissoit may actually be better than his stats say.

roper's point was nylander was playing more under keefe, therefore scoing more.

i blame myself. i need to stop discussing his nonsense.

nylander is good. my pre-season prediction (which can be easily located, not just made up):

People think this guy sucks, but he's not so bad (and the reason is): Nylander. somehow under rated for his talent.

W. Nylander, RW 28g, 45a
- Tumbleweed

https://twitter.com/i/web...tatus/1211316927165075457


Great example of the difference.