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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 6 @ 10:06 AM ET
Isn't it funny how we heard so much Leafs had no depth a month ago? This team has ridiculous depth.
- RogerRoeper

It’s Dubas and his Marlies.

The focus he put on the Marlies is great.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 6 @ 10:06 AM ET
Grant Mcagg-esque.
- AdamFrench


that guy can just not separate his hate and bias from his analysis.

i dont know how you can take him seriously.

he also strangely stopped posting updates on this

Grant McCagg
@grantmccagg
·
Nov 15, 2019
Update - So far in the year of 2019...

Toronto 29-24-10 - four games over .500

Montreal 34-21-6 - 13 games over .500

Habs with 4 players under 22 and a stocked prospect cupboard...Leafs with ....none under 22.


wonder what happened
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 6 @ 10:06 AM ET
That guy is just taking advantage of a leaf hater and Hab homer market.

You have to pay the bills somehow.

- Santo_44


I somehow doubt that whatever he does that is hockey related pays any bills
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 6 @ 10:06 AM ET
Komisarus and QuickSF are the same guy?!?!

That would explain so much....

- Scabeh

They're all me/UG so of course we are.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 6 @ 10:09 AM ET
that guy can just not separate his hate and bias from his analysis.

i dont know how you can take him seriously.

he also strangely stopped posting updates on this



wonder what happened

- senstroll


We switched to 2020.

Try to keep up geez!
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 6 @ 10:09 AM ET
that guy can just not separate his hate and bias from his analysis.

i dont know how you can take him seriously.

he also strangely stopped posting updates on this



wonder what happened

- senstroll

Can't put my finger on it.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 6 @ 10:09 AM ET
I somehow doubt that whatever he does that is hockey related pays any bills
- TheMussel

He puts out content you pay for.

Some people suck up his shtick.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 6 @ 10:09 AM ET
It’s Dubas and his Marlies.

The focus he put on the Marlies is great.

- Santo_44

So this is going to sound like a shot at Dubas, but it really isn't.

Leafs fans have to stop giving Dubas so much credit for developing players through the farm system.

That's what you are supposed to do.

That's what every other team has done for 50 years. Only the Leafs have not done this.

So is it great that the entire organization has started developing players? Yes. Hell yes.

But Dubas isn't some franking genius for using the farm system. It's just that Leafs Nation has never seen it before, so they think it's a novel approach.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 6 @ 10:10 AM ET
Isn't it funny how we heard so much Leafs had no depth a month ago? This team has ridiculous depth.
- RogerRoeper


Dubas and the Leafs/Marlies have spent the last few years really developing the bottom 6 type (mostly because all the blue chip prospects are Leafs).

The Leaf wont rank high on the Team prospect rankings, but it looks like they have lots of NHL ready players who jump in and are put in positions to have success.

its good to see, a complete flip from what the Leafs used to be. Its taken 5+ years to get there and we probably havent seen the best of the processes yet.

Dubas has been the best thing to happen the Leafs since Shanny was hired
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 6 @ 10:11 AM ET
We switched to 2020.

Try to keep up geez!

- Scabeh



this is the part that really stings

Habs with 4 players under 22 and a stocked prospect cupboard...Leafs with ....none under 22.


bleak outlook for da leefs
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jan 6 @ 10:12 AM ET
Draft is in Montreal.

First overall pick will be a guy from Quebec.

If that's not (frank)ing destiny, I don't know what is.

If there was ever a time to rig the lottery, it's now.

- Scabeh


There's a slim chance Scabbie - much to the chagrin of many here - Ottawa looks pretty good in the upcoming draft. With a high top five pick of their own plus a second top ten from San Jose, they will have two lottery tickets for Lafreniere. Ottawa and Detroit have to be favoured
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 6 @ 10:12 AM ET
that guy can just not separate his hate and bias from his analysis.

i dont know how you can take him seriously.

he also strangely stopped posting updates on this



wonder what happened

- senstroll

Habs are quietly putting together a nice little roster of young players.

This might not be their year, but if I was a Habs fan, I'd like what Bergevin is doing.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 6 @ 10:13 AM ET
So this is going to sound like a shot at Dubas, but it really isn't.

Leafs fans have to stop giving Dubas so much credit for developing players through the farm system.

That's what you are supposed to do.

That's what every other team has done for 50 years. Only the Leafs have not done this.

So is it great that the entire organization has started developing players? Yes. Hell yes.

But Dubas isn't some franking genius for using the farm system. It's just that Leafs Nation has never seen it before, so they think it's a novel approach.

- Atomic Wedgie


A lot of teams try, of course.

Dubas has had tremendous success with the Marlies. There is no denying that...currently he has 13 players on the Leafs who have spent at least close to a full season there.

And players like Holl, Moore, Engval, Marchment, ect were all ECHL level players when they were brought in here.

There is no denying the success he has had with them. The most recent Holl signing is proof.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 6 @ 10:14 AM ET
There's a slim chance Scabbie - much to the chagrin of many here - Ottawa looks pretty good in the upcoming draft. With a high top five pick of their own plus a second top ten from San Jose, they will have two lottery tickets for Lafreniere. Ottawa and Detroit have to be favoured
- winsix


And here I thought I could count of your support to wish the Habs to be as terrible as possible in the 2nd half of the season.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 6 @ 10:17 AM ET
Habs are quietly putting together a nice little roster of young players.

This might not be their year, but if I was a Habs fan, I'd like what Bergevin is doing.

- Atomic Wedgie


If they miss the playoffs again, that will be 4 out of the last 5 (and 1 first round exit)
And all while actually trying to win.

Congrats to them
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 6 @ 10:17 AM ET
Dubas and the Leafs/Marlies have spent the last few years really developing the bottom 6 type (mostly because all the blue chip prospects are Leafs).

The Leaf wont rank high on the Team prospect rankings, but it looks like they have lots of NHL ready players who jump in and are put in positions to have success.

its good to see, a complete flip from what the Leafs used to be. Its taken 5+ years to get there and we probably havent seen the best of the processes yet.

Dubas has been the best thing to happen the Leafs since Shanny was hired

- senstroll

The secret is to keep picking Swedes in the 7th round.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jan 6 @ 10:18 AM ET
new blog
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jan 6 @ 10:21 AM ET
So this is going to sound like a shot at Dubas, but it really isn't.

Leafs fans have to stop giving Dubas so much credit for developing players through the farm system.

That's what you are supposed to do.

That's what every other team has done for 50 years. Only the Leafs have not done this.

So is it great that the entire organization has started developing players? Yes. Hell yes.

But Dubas isn't some franking genius for using the farm system. It's just that Leafs Nation has never seen it before, so they think it's a novel approach.

- Atomic Wedgie


Agree with this - an element of good forturne or luck seems to be involved as well. Leafs picked Gauthier in the 1st round in 13, but landed Andreas Johnsson in the 7th. In 14 getting Engvall in the 7th to go with Nylander in the 1st was something we would expect from Tampa - not the Leafs at that time..
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 6 @ 10:23 AM ET
If they miss the playoffs again, that will be 4 out of the last 5 (and 1 first round exit)
And all while actually trying to win.

Congrats to them

- senstroll

Yep.

Until they have success they aren’t that impressive.

Every team has good young talent.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 6 @ 10:29 AM ET
If they miss the playoffs again, that will be 4 out of the last 5 (and 1 first round exit)
And all while actually trying to win.

Congrats to them

- senstroll


I'm sorry, in which parallel universe were the Habs trying to win the Stanley cup this year?

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 6 @ 11:20 AM ET
I'm sorry, in which parallel universe were the Habs trying to win the Stanley cup this year?
- Scabeh


your leader, komisally says so.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:37 AM ET
Dubas and the Leafs/Marlies have spent the last few years really developing the bottom 6 type (mostly because all the blue chip prospects are Leafs).

The Leaf wont rank high on the Team prospect rankings, but it looks like they have lots of NHL ready players who jump in and are put in positions to have success.

its good to see, a complete flip from what the Leafs used to be. Its taken 5+ years to get there and we probably havent seen the best of the processes yet.

Dubas has been the best thing to happen the Leafs since Shanny was hired

- senstroll


And that's why the "4 forwards for 40 million" is not nearly the big deal people make it out to be. And that 40 million is not going up but the cap is.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:38 AM ET
So this is going to sound like a shot at Dubas, but it really isn't.

Leafs fans have to stop giving Dubas so much credit for developing players through the farm system.

That's what you are supposed to do.

That's what every other team has done for 50 years. Only the Leafs have not done this.

So is it great that the entire organization has started developing players? Yes. Hell yes.

But Dubas isn't some franking genius for using the farm system. It's just that Leafs Nation has never seen it before, so they think it's a novel approach.

- Atomic Wedgie



Oh really? Looks to me like a majority of teams are not doing this right now.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:39 AM ET
So this is going to sound like a shot at Dubas, but it really isn't.

Leafs fans have to stop giving Dubas so much credit for developing players through the farm system.

That's what you are supposed to do.

That's what every other team has done for 50 years. Only the Leafs have not done this.

So is it great that the entire organization has started developing players? Yes. Hell yes.

But Dubas isn't some franking genius for using the farm system. It's just that Leafs Nation has never seen it before, so they think it's a novel approach.

- Atomic Wedgie



Oh really? Looks to me like a majority of teams are not doing this right now.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 6 @ 2:07 PM ET
Wow that McCagg goof is the dumbest sack of poop on the planet. Oh no, maybe the Leafs should trade their top 4 guys for players that are under 22 lol...what a (frank)in moron
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