When he took over he inherited Price, Markov, Subban and Pacioretty in their prime, how was he suppose to rebuild??
- obie

He could've still drafted good players...

When he took over he inherited Price, Markov, Subban and Pacioretty in their prime, how was he suppose to rebuild??
- obie

Wasn't he supposed to build a competitor? (He also started with a 3rd overall pick that flopped)

When he took over he inherited Price, Markov, Subban and Pacioretty in their prime, how was he suppose to rebuild??
- obie

He wasn't supposed to rebuild, he was supposed to win the Stanley Cup.

That and a few prostitutes too
- jugkope

What'S your source? I need his phone number to fact check

He wasn't supposed to rebuild, he was supposed to win the Stanley Cup.
- jugkope

Chris Kreider stole his cup.

he made 2 good trades 2 summers ago. other than that, all he has done is draft players and the jury is out on all of those players, including the one he took 3rd overall.

also, in terms of expectations, we're not the ones who set them. the organization set expectations by for the most part hanging on to their aging expensive veterans. if as an organization you're willing to experience a few lean years, why would you hang on to those players? you hang on to those players because you're trying to be good. that was his hedge and it has failed spectacularly.
- DoubleDown

very true. they set objectives, fail, rinse and repeat.
they should both (Cj and MB) be fired the day after last game of the season.
and Timmins too btw.

Wasn't he supposed to build a competitor? (He also started with a 3rd overall pick that flopped)
- Takemedrunkimhome

Yeah but that whole draft was...meh, especially for forwards...Aside from Forsberg, probably Hertl & Teravainen, and possibly Wilson & Athanasiou, I'm not sure there's a forward I take before Galchenyuk.

What'S your source? I need his phone number to fact check
- Fredo

My source is some guy on Internet saying it

He could've still drafted good players...
- BashCH

True....

Galchenyuk 3rd
Scherback 26th
Juulsen 26th
Sergachev 9th
Poehling 25th
Kotkaniemi 3rd
Caufield 15th

His 7 1st round

For what its worth, compare it to other GM's and see how they do I guess

Chris Kreider stole his cup.
- BashCH

Carey would have choked and they could'nt buy a goal agaisnt the rangers anyway

Yeah but that whole draft was...meh, especially for forwards...Aside from Forsberg, probably Hertl & Teravainen, and possibly Wilson & Athanasiou, I'm not sure there's a forward I take before Galchenyuk.
- jugkope

Not a huge fan of his game but Morgan Reilly would look decent on the 1st pair LD right now...even at the cost of Domi

He wasn't supposed to rebuild, he was supposed to win the Stanley Cup.
- jugkope

Win a cup with Gomez and Desharnais as your top 2 C? As if!!

Wings have had 6 of their 25 points this season against the Habs...
- BashCH

Wings vs MTL: 3-0-0
Wings vs rest of league: 8-30-3

Carey would have choked and they could'nt buy a goal agaisnt the rangers anyway
- Fredo

I was being sarcastic...

True....

Galchenyuk 3rd
Scherback 26th
Juulsen 26th
Sergachev 9th
Poehling 25th
Kotkaniemi 3rd
Caufield 15th

His 7 1st round

For what its worth, compare it to other GM's and see how they do I guess
- obie

You forgot McCarron

True....

Galchenyuk 3rd
Scherback 26th
Juulsen 26th
Sergachev 9th
Poehling 25th
Kotkaniemi 3rd
Caufield 15th

His 7 1st round

For what its worth, compare it to other GM's and see how they do I guess
- obie

The player that looks to be the best of the bunch thus far was traded by MB for magic french beans

True....

Galchenyuk 3rd
Scherback 26th
Juulsen 26th
Sergachev 9th
Poehling 25th
Kotkaniemi 3rd
Caufield 15th

His 7 1st round

For what its worth, compare it to other GM's and see how they do I guess
- obie

Bowen Byram
Martin Kaut
Cale Makar
Tyson Jost
Mikko Rantanen
Conner Bleackley
Nathan MacKinnon

Not a huge fan of his game but Morgan Reilly would look decent on the 1st pair LD right now...even at the cost of Domi
- Takemedrunkimhome

Oh, for sure, there are defensemen who would have been better...but at the time, forwards were what was believed to be needed. Their last 2 1st rounders were future stars Beaulieu and Tinordi, and they still had Markov and Subban, plus prime Raphael Diaz and Josh Gorges, and Bouillon.

so I ran the Tankathon this morning, just for fun.
1st try, Habs win and draft Lafreniere
they currently have a 20% chance of picking top 3. 40% to pick 8th.
- fidopro

Just tried, same result...!

You forgot McCarron
- BashCH

How could I forget?

25th overall right?

Bowen Byram
Martin Kaut
Cale Makar
Tyson Jost
Mikko Rantanen
Conner Bleackley
Nathan MacKinnon
- Fredo

Have to admit that they had better draft position as well...

Bowen Byram
Martin Kaut
Cale Makar
Tyson Jost
Mikko Rantanen
Conner Bleackley
Nathan MacKinnon
- Fredo

A 1st overall, 2 4th overalls, 2 10th overalls, 17th overall.... you see a difference right?

How could I forget?

25th overall right?
- obie

Now that he's been traded he's far from your heart...I understand.

Oh, for sure, there are defensemen who would have been better...but at the time, forwards were what was believed to be needed. Their last 2 1st rounders were future stars Beaulieu and Tinordi, and they still had Markov and Subban, plus prime Raphael Diaz and Josh Gorges, and Bouillon.
- jugkope

It is amazing how drafting 18 year olds to do something in their 20's gets decided on by immediate needs. No way that can play out poorly or show a lack of foresight

A 1st overall, 2 4th overalls, 2 10th overalls, 17th overall.... you see a difference right?
- obie

Difference is they didn't pretend like they could make the playoffs every year, accepted the suckage and had better draft position than the Habs...