If I said Joe Thornton, would I be half-right?
- Atomic Wedgie

I think Lemieux was one of the last people to, think I read that somewhere but I'm probably wrong.

I'd give the Hart to MacKinnon over McDavid 100%.
- LeafGuy89

I’d have to agree. The guy can dominate.

I hate him but Marchand is probably the best all around player that doesn’t get enough credit for MVP. Plays in all situations & does it at the highest level.

It's going to be almost 70 degrees here on Sunday
- RickJames77

That's like a poorly heated sauna

Fun little number crunching:

If you look at only the games Matthews has played under Keefe:

22 games, 17 goals, 10 assists, 27 points.

If you extrapolate that over 82 games, Matthews would have:

63 goals, 37 assists, 100 points.

If Marner had been healthy all season, and played 95% of the games with Matthews, and Keefe was the HC at the start, Matthews would probably have 50 by now.
- Steven_Seagull

So line-mates are important in this?

Marner has played 34 games. Bergeron 35. Seems pretty even... no?

So line-mates are important in this?

Marner has played 34 games. Bergeron 35. Seems pretty even... no?
- Nasty_Duck

You are a guest here, so I will thank you to leave your objectivity out of this.

Drink the blue Kool-aid or get the frank out.

He’s entered the bag lickers convo nobody else’s other than you. Give your head a shake if you think he has a hope. Give it more time & he will be.
- Nighthawk

The stats line up.

You are salty about it and that’s okay.

You are a guest here, so I will thank you to leave your objectivity out of this.

Drink the blue Kool-aid or get the frank out.
- Atomic Wedgie

So what you're saying is... I'm probably out of line to add Marchand to the list?

McDavid plays with Draisatl and a couple of guys who were cut from my beer league team.
- Atomic Wedgie

McDavid could have the back-up goalie as a winger & still win the scoring race. If his team didn’t suck he’d have an MVP already but as said earlier the MVP comes from a PO team & McDavid has no control over that if they don’t get it together.

So line-mates are important in this?

Marner has played 34 games. Bergeron 35. Seems pretty even... no?
- Nasty_Duck

Oh, so Marchand doesn’t play with Pastrnak anymore?

Oh, so Marchand doesn’t play with Pastrnak anymore?
- Steven_Seagull

For a Bird, you're kinda slow... I like that in a bird.

The stats line up.

You are salty about it and that’s okay.
- Santo_44

Nah I’m a fan not a total homer like yourself. Try being objective for a change. Cue another post with salty in it...

Solid game by JT last night. He had 2 assists... for WPG and was his normal self in OT.
- niteislander

"We've moved on"- Still Salty Liars

reminds me of this one time when I accidentally punched a guy in the face at the supermarket cause I thought he was about to tackle me but as it turned out he was just buying cereal
- poopstash

this guy is the accident I cant look away from.

Talking about Toronto...again




So, the Leafs were pretty obviously trying not to win games in 2015-16.
and also after they Fired Carlyle in the 14-15 season.

And including 2012-2014 in the "Top 90 picks" makes no sense, that was the Burke/Nonis years where they had 17 total picks in 3 drafts.

Contrast that with the actual tank years 2015 and 2016 they had 20 picks in just 2 drafts.

the things that are true, the Leafs got lucky and got #1 (while tanking to get them the best chance) and the picks they ended up with fast tracked the rebuild for sure.
- senstroll

McCagg is a (frank)ing mess.

Honestly don't know how anyone can take him seriously.

so you have a problem with the trans community huh?
- Trans4md Thundrcat

just the ones that think they are robot thundercats.

Let me make this easy for you fellas:

It's McDavid.

End of list.
- Atomic Wedgie

McJesus is the best player in the league.

If I had a vote for the Hart, I think I'd vote for MacKinnon.

McJesus is the best player in the league.

If I had a vote for the Hart, I think I'd vote for MacKinnon.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I’m down for that 👍

I’m down for that 👍
- Nighthawk

You need to calm your tits man. Literally before the break it was "Eichel's to lose." from all the "pundits." Welcome to the world of sports reporting?

I’m down for that 👍
- Nighthawk

OPP

I think Lemieux was one of the last people to, think I read that somewhere but I'm probably wrong.
- LeafGuy89

You are correct. I take no credit for this, but I was intrigued by Santo's question. I found some answer(s) in a Reddit post. Lemieux in 1987-88 finished with 168pts to Gretzky's 149. The Oilers would win the cup that year, too.

Andy Bathgate of the 1958-59 Rangers. I don't even know why. He was 3rd in goals, 3rd in points, and 2nd in assists - to Beliveau and Moore and the Habs were 1st that year. I thought perhaps the vote got split, but no . . .Bathgate had the majority of 1st place votes. Weird.

Al Rollins of the 1953-54 Blackhawks has to be my favourite. He was the goalie. The Blackhawks were 12-51-7 that year. They allowed 242 goals. The next closest was 182 against. The most offensive team had 195 goals for. So. This was not a good team. He had the worst goals against average in the league - by almost a full goal.

Our grandparents have us believing pity didn't exist back then. Pfft. Liars.

You need to calm your tits man. Literally before the break it was "Eichel's to lose." from all the "pundits." Welcome to the world of sports reporting?
- AdamFrench

Late to the party dude. I mentioned Jack.

You are correct. I take no credit for this, but I was intrigued by Santo's question. I found some answer(s) in a Reddit post. Lemieux in 1987-88 finished with 168pts to Gretzky's 149. The Oilers would win the cup that year, too.

Andy Bathgate of the 1958-59 Rangers. I don't even know why. He was 3rd in goals, 3rd in points, and 2nd in assists - to Beliveau and Moore and the Habs were 1st that year. I thought perhaps the vote got split, but no . . .Bathgate had the majority of 1st place votes. Weird.

Al Rollins of the 1953-54 Blackhawks has to be my favourite. He was the goalie. The Blackhawks were 12-51-7 that year. They allowed 242 goals. The next closest was 182 against. The most offensive team had 195 goals for. So. This was not a good team. He had the worst goals against average in the league - by almost a full goal.

Our grandparents have us believing pity didn't exist back then. Pfft. Liars.
- Monkeypunk

Bathgate a HOFer was a fantastic player

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...tats/pdisplay.php?pid=241

Check out 69-70 when he led the WHL Canucks to the B2B championship.

Late to the party dude. I mentioned Jack.
- Nighthawk

So you mentioned people for an award...you done?