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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 13 @ 11:57 PM ET
It took having to see Peter Forsberg and your username at the same time to put it together. I’m the Jessica Fletcher of Hockeybuzz.
- Steven_Seagull

I played against this awful hockey player twice.

Thankfully before he became one of the greats...!

13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 14 @ 12:46 AM ET
It’s obvious you pay for elite UFA’s.
Panarin got paid. Hindsight who would you want Panarin or JT?

The point is value for production & that’s where it began. Willy at 6.9m is good.

- Nighthawk

I prefer JT. It's very close and Panarin is doing better right now, but the 47 goals last year and the fact that he's a centre gives JT the edge. Leafs have enough talent on the wings, upgrading the C position was a priority and he's been a great fit.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 14 @ 1:30 AM ET
I prefer JT. It's very close and Panarin is doing better right now, but the 47 goals last year and the fact that he's a centre gives JT the edge. Leafs have enough talent on the wings, upgrading the C position was a priority and he's been a great fit.
- 13sundin13

Usually I agree a C over a winger any day but in the case of a Panarin or Kane that’s irrelevant. Imo a C that does it all is that ‘edge’ you refer to. Eg Forsberg. That said I’ve liked JT for a long time. Any player that can carry a team is great to have with position being secondary. A game changer is a game changer.
13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 14 @ 2:38 AM ET
Usually I agree a C over a winger any day but in the case of a Panarin or Kane that’s irrelevant. Imo a C that does it all is that ‘edge’ you refer to. Eg Forsberg. That said I’ve liked JT for a long time. Any player that can carry a team is great to have with position being secondary. A game changer is a game changer.
- Nighthawk

Not in a salary cap world, and as many already know, the Leafs are right up against the cap. With Matthews, Marner and Nylander in your future top 6 forwards, two wingers and a C, the next best way to spend your money would be another centre. Three elite wingers and one centre is way too lopsided a way to spend your money. JT is a much better fit for the Leafs than Panarin IMO.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Jan 14 @ 5:14 AM ET
Team D is good enough to win in the playoffs without any moves.
- RogerRoeper

just need to get the scoring up around 9 per👍😁
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jan 14 @ 6:30 AM ET
Boeser wouldn’t of gotten 10 million.

He isn’t at that level.

- Santo_44


if you can give a 4th line ahl caliber player like Eriksson $6 million long term, then $10M for Boeser is no biggie.

leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Jan 14 @ 6:36 AM ET
if you can give a 4th line ahl caliber player like Eriksson $6 million long term, then $10M for Boeser is no biggie.
- winsix


If we didn't overpay Marner by a couple million, we could have a player Like Beagle, Komarov, or maybe even been in on Looch. That would have really pus us over the top
hawk35
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Jan 14 @ 6:49 AM ET
It took having to see Peter Forsberg and your username at the same time to put it together. I’m the Jessica Fletcher of Hockeybuzz.
- Steven_Seagull


From a hockey knowledge standpoint, anyway...
(Too easy, hadda do it!)
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 14 @ 6:52 AM ET
as far out as it might seem... you're the first

hockeybuzz for the elite!

- 21peter

I always assumed it meant you have a 21 cm peter.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 14 @ 6:54 AM ET
I always assumed it meant you have a 21 cm peter.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm embarrassed to say it's only 20...
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Jan 14 @ 7:08 AM ET
I always assumed it meant you have a 21 cm peter.
- Atomic Wedgie

lmfaooooooooo 🤣
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 14 @ 7:15 AM ET
Ottawa has M. Reilly.....we can trade you him for like a 4th rd pick.

half the people spell Rielly's name that way regardless, so it will be like you never lost him.
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Jan 14 @ 7:34 AM ET
Usually I agree a C over a winger any day but in the case of a Panarin or Kane that’s irrelevant. Imo a C that does it all is that ‘edge’ you refer to. Eg Forsberg. That said I’ve liked JT for a long time. Any player that can carry a team is great to have with position being secondary. A game changer is a game changer.
- Nighthawk


Are you for real? You take the 47 goal center all day every day. A good ratio to go by is the 20% one. A winger has to produce 20% more at everything to be comparable to a center.
You know who on the Leafs that's a winger who plays a possession style type of hockey like Panarin. Nope not Marner, he blew Panarin away at a younger age. Yup that's right, William (frank)ing Nylander. This is coming from a non Nylander fan and ya can laugh all ya want but Willy's numbers this year at the age of 23 are very comparable to what Panarin was doing at 24. Hopefully Willy keeps it up and in 5 years when he gets to Panarins age of now, we can compare again....
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 14 @ 7:50 AM ET
just need to get the scoring up around 9 per👍😁
- Skalapy


scraps11b
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Southern Canada, NY
Joined: 02.26.2018

Jan 14 @ 8:28 AM ET
Call Columbus who legit has 9 NHL ready d-men and offer a trade. Its going to take a roster regular but the leafs could get Josh Anderson and a top 4 d-man for say..Nylander. Josh Anderson gives the leafs the forechecker and grit player they are so desperately needing that can still skate with speed and score (think Tom Wilson without being an bumhole). C-Bus could part with say Ryan Murray (Theyve wanted to trade him for a while for a winger now) who can be a top line D-man but no one is getting there with Jones and Werenski. Nutivarra is a skilled puck mover that can hold his own. The ultimate prize, but good luck, would be Savard. A legit stay at home responsible shut down d-man. He is C-bus' shutdown guy and they love him. He would be a top d-man on any other team. But, none of them are going to come cheap as everyone knows the situation in Toronto.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Jan 14 @ 8:28 AM ET
Caps re-sign Backstrom for 5 years 9.2m per year
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jan 14 @ 8:35 AM ET
Call Columbus who legit has 9 NHL ready d-men and offer a trade. Its going to take a roster regular but the leafs could get Josh Anderson and a top 4 d-man for say..Nylander. Josh Anderson gives the leafs the forechecker and grit player they are so desperately needing that can still skate with speed and score (think Tom Wilson without being an bumhole). C-Bus could part with say Ryan Murray (Theyve wanted to trade him for a while for a winger now) who can be a top line D-man but no one is getting there with Jones and Werenski. Nutivarra is a skilled puck mover that can hold his own. The ultimate prize, but good luck, would be Savard. A legit stay at home responsible shut down d-man. He is C-bus' shutdown guy and they love him. He would be a top d-man on any other team. But, none of them are going to come cheap as everyone knows the situation in Toronto.
- scraps11b


That may be but, they're still not worth Nylander.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 14 @ 8:37 AM ET
Call Columbus who legit has 9 NHL ready d-men and offer a trade. Its going to take a roster regular but the leafs could get Josh Anderson and a top 4 d-man for say..Nylander. Josh Anderson gives the leafs the forechecker and grit player they are so desperately needing that can still skate with speed and score (think Tom Wilson without being an bumhole). C-Bus could part with say Ryan Murray (Theyve wanted to trade him for a while for a winger now) who can be a top line D-man but no one is getting there with Jones and Werenski. Nutivarra is a skilled puck mover that can hold his own. The ultimate prize, but good luck, would be Savard. A legit stay at home responsible shut down d-man. He is C-bus' shutdown guy and they love him. He would be a top d-man on any other team. But, none of them are going to come cheap as everyone knows the situation in Toronto.
- scraps11b

Yeah no, Leafs lose best player in deal, Nylander trade declined
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 14 @ 8:39 AM ET
Caps re-sign Backstrom for 5 years 9.2m per year
- LeafGuy89

Good contract for a 1C cup winner
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 14 @ 8:39 AM ET
I think there are some reasonable trades that will be out there. GMs like to tout leverage, but when it comes down to it they know what is reasonable and what is not. No ones going full Chiarelli in the Leafs front office no matter how much the Leaf trolls want them too.

Realistic Targets

Manson %retained
Petro/Parayko - Depending on what they are going to do next year with Petro. Armstrong has traded players like this before.
Lindholm
Del Zotto
Keith %retained
Brodin
Martinez %retained
Daley
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jan 14 @ 8:42 AM ET
Jim Matheson
@NHLbyMatty
· 2h
Draisaitl when asked what he would do if he and McDavid had to play with Tkachuk in 3 on 3 at all-star game: “I would get off the ice”



Posted this yesterday but it's still funny to me.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 14 @ 8:49 AM ET
It’s obvious you pay for elite UFA’s.
Panarin got paid. Hindsight who would you want Panarin or JT?

The point is value for production & that’s where it began. Willy at 6.9m is good.

- Nighthawk

Hmmm.
I take the hometown center who has now become our captain, we have enough wingers.
If willy gets 60-70pts than he is paid exactly what he should be.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 14 @ 8:54 AM ET
just need to get the scoring up around 9 per👍😁
- Skalapy

Same with Carolina I guess since they let in 8 against us recently.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 14 @ 8:55 AM ET
Are you for real? You take the 47 goal center all day every day. A good ratio to go by is the 20% one. A winger has to produce 20% more at everything to be comparable to a center.
You know who on the Leafs that's a winger who plays a possession style type of hockey like Panarin. Nope not Marner, he blew Panarin away at a younger age. Yup that's right, William (frank)ing Nylander. This is coming from a non Nylander fan and ya can laugh all ya want but Willy's numbers this year at the age of 23 are very comparable to what Panarin was doing at 24. Hopefully Willy keeps it up and in 5 years when he gets to Panarins age of now, we can compare again....

- Buck Norris


Are you for real...

17g 20a 37 pts 39 games
26g 41a 67 pts 45 games

Is your 20% rule covered? Easily
More rules?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 14 @ 8:56 AM ET
Hmmm.
I take the hometown center who has now become our captain, we have enough wingers.
If willy gets 60-70pts than he is paid exactly what he should be.

- Fakepartofme


No problems with this.
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