If they don't have hot takes for people to get mad at them for then nobody will listen to them talk about hockey.

I believe media members like that make this poop up just for the content. At least I hope so...
- Aaron_85

on this theme... Lebrun was spewing (AGAIN) that a "large portion of the Leafs fan base are asking if Weber would be a fit with the Leafs"...

yes... because millions of Leaf fans want Shea Weber...

it really does make you wonder why so many people give these guys an ongoing forum or platform

We might need to play a guy on his offside


- AdamFrench

not "quite" apocalyptic enough

I think people have failed to female dog about Nylander correctly. I like Nylander. If I have a complaint about him, it's that his effort is predominant when there's a chance for glory, but it's waning when there isn't.

If he has a chance at the puck, at a goal, at a 2 on 1, at an offensive play, he'll hunker down and skate. He'll even throw in 2nd and 3rd effort to try and get or keep the puck where that scoring chance exists.

As soon as the chance evaporates, so, too, it seems does Willy's will to compete hard.

I think if he ever learns how to play the other side of that equation, he'll be invaluable.
- Monkeypunk

so you are saying he's looking for the easy opportunities to look good?

sounds about right?

seek glory, avoid conflict.

passive indifference

on this theme... Lebrun was spewing (AGAIN) that a "large portion of the Leafs fan base are asking if Weber would be a fit with the Leafs"...

yes... because millions of Leaf fans want Shea Weber...

it really does make you wonder why so many people give these guys an ongoing forum or platform
- BorjeFan4Ever

Is the salary cap suspended?

If so, hell yeah, I would love Weber.

on this theme... Lebrun was spewing (AGAIN) that a "large portion of the Leafs fan base are asking if Weber would be a fit with the Leafs"...

yes... because millions of Leaf fans want Shea Weber...

it really does make you wonder why so many people give these guys an ongoing forum or platform
- BorjeFan4Ever

Thirst for trades. I love hearing about trades league wide personally.

Leaf fans have to realize a big trade isn't really coming anymore. The core is here and set. The time for Weber to be a Leaf has passed especially with his contract size.

Thirst for trades. I love hearing about trades league wide personally.

Leaf fans have to realize a big trade isn't really coming anymore. The core is here and set. The time for Weber to be a Leaf has passed especially with his contract size.
- Aaron_85

And Subban.

anyone else see this

https://twitter.com/MikeK...tatus/1217253520610603013

Willie the 2nd most goals in the league "net-front area"
I thought that was where soft players stay away from.
- senstroll

It's funny all these stats come out saying the leafs or their players have top metrics in such and such category and yet they apparently are a lottery team to most people.

And Subban.
- Atomic Wedgie

Weber AND Subban What (frank)ing year is it?!

so you are saying he's looking for the easy opportunities to look good?

sounds about right?

seek glory, avoid conflict.

passive indifference
- BorjeFan4Ever

If you want to read it that way, feel free. "Haters gonna hate" and all that jazz.

He doesn't avoid conflict when it can lead to scoring - that's the point. He has shown that demonstrably through both the eye test and the metrics. He has also shown that offensively he is good at using his tools, including his speed, to his advantage where possible.

Defensively - and I have no metric for this other than my eyes - he doesn't skate back hard enough, loses his man in coverage too often still, and has no clue how to box someone out.

This last paragraph describes a significant portion of forwards in the NHL who do not have Nylander's offensive talents. Rather than try to get rid of him because he has these shortcomings, I'd rather encourage that he work on those areas to be a more rounded player with incredible offensive talents.

Weber AND Subban What (frank)ing year is it?!
- Aaron_85

2013

If you want to read it that way, feel free. "Haters gonna hate" and all that jazz.

He doesn't avoid conflict when it can lead to scoring - that's the point. He has shown that demonstrably through both the eye test and the metrics. He has also shown that offensively he is good at using his tools, including his speed, to his advantage where possible.

Defensively - and I have no metric for this other than my eyes - he doesn't skate back hard enough, loses his man in coverage too often still, and has no clue how to box someone out.

This last paragraph describes a significant portion of forwards in the NHL who do not have Nylander's offensive talents. Rather than try to get rid of him because he has these shortcomings, I'd rather encourage that he work on those areas to be a more rounded player with incredible offensive talents.
- Monkeypunk

What are you talking about?! ALL other talented forwards are PERFECT and have NO shortcomings. Nylander is a BUST.

What are you talking about?! ALL other talented forwards are PERFECT and have NO shortcomings. Nylander is a BUST.
- Aaron_85

Except for the talented forwards on the Leafs.

Thirst for trades. I love hearing about trades league wide personally.

Leaf fans have to realize a big trade isn't really coming anymore. The core is here and set. The time for Weber to be a Leaf has passed especially with his contract size.
- Aaron_85

I believe Lebrun loves to troll the Leafs fan base.. getting someone to say something stupid - i.e. a potential package for Weber... so he(Lebrun) has talking points about how delusional the "leafs fanbase is" or how ridiculous the ask is for player so and so...



and then comes the RFA contract olympics... more spew... NOTHING TRUE

Except for the talented forwards on the Leafs.
- Steven_Seagull

Who?

I believe Lebrun loves to troll the Leafs fan base.. getting someone to say something stupid - i.e. a potential package for Weber... so he(Lebrun) has talking points about how delusional the "leafs fanbase is" or how ridiculous the ask is for player so and so...



and then comes the RFA contract olympics... more spew... NOTHING TRUE
- BorjeFan4Ever

Hrm.

We'll give them a 2nd & Cody Ceci for Shea Weber with 42% retained under the condition that in 2021 they have to take him back and give us a 3rd.

If they get all uppity, we can change that pick to a 4th.

Hello?

Hello?

If you want to read it that way, feel free. "Haters gonna hate" and all that jazz.

He doesn't avoid conflict when it can lead to scoring - that's the point. He has shown that demonstrably through both the eye test and the metrics. He has also shown that offensively he is good at using his tools, including his speed, to his advantage where possible.

Defensively - and I have no metric for this other than my eyes - he doesn't skate back hard enough, loses his man in coverage too often still, and has no clue how to box someone out.

This last paragraph describes a significant portion of forwards in the NHL who do not have Nylander's offensive talents. Rather than try to get rid of him because he has these shortcomings, I'd rather encourage that he work on those areas to be a more rounded player with incredible offensive talents.
- Monkeypunk

I don't want to get rid of him for this reasoning either. But I know it would drive me insane as a teammate to have a guy like that - tons of talent - but far to easily "distracted". I don't question his talent , never have.

I would consider trading him simply for the reason that he represents the greatest simply choice to get a top level defenseman in return. That's not "getting rid of him", that's leveraging his value to the betterment of the team.

Hrm.

We'll give them a 2nd & Cody Ceci for Shea Weber with 42% retained under the condition that in 2021 they have to take him back and give us a 3rd.

If they get all uppity, we can change that pick to a 4th.

Hello?

Hello?
- Monkeypunk

I can see Weber being best buds with Nylander

Hrm.

We'll give them a 2nd & Cody Ceci for Shea Weber with 42% retained under the condition that in 2021 they have to take him back and give us a 3rd.

If they get all uppity, we can change that pick to a 4th.

Hello?

Hello?
- Monkeypunk

Lebrun is going to love you!

when you use the skatr tool to compare Willie and Mitch
- senstroll

Was saying yesterday Willies production this year at age 23 is comparable to Panarins when he was 24. Was kinda laughed at. But compare those two and you will see its pretty close. One a 6.9 cap and one an 11.6.
Moral of the story, we won't be able to afford Willie when he gets to his age in 5 years if he keeps it up...

Hrm.

We'll give them a 2nd & Cody Ceci for Shea Weber with 42% retained under the condition that in 2021 they have to take him back and give us a 3rd.

If they get all uppity, we can change that pick to a 4th.

Hello?

Hello?
- Monkeypunk

Weber had hidden value.

At a certain point, Nashville has to trade for him back, or they are franked so hard if he retires early, they would have to fold the franchise.

They have to send him to Robidas Island.

I can see Weber being best buds with Nylander
- TheMussel

I would guess that Weber and Nylander would get along fine... Nylander would sit at the other end of the locker room, closer to the mirrors. Weber not so much.

on the other hand... Weber might now get along with Barrie... who apparently is a defenseman as well... they might have some philosphical differences of opinion

Was saying yesterday Willies production this year at age 23 is comparable to Panarins when he was 24. Was kinda laughed at. But compare those two and you will see its pretty close. One a 6.9 cap and one an 11.6.
Moral of the story, we won't be able to afford Willie when he gets to his age in 5 years if he keeps it up...

- Buck Norris

what was Panarin making when he was 24?

I would guess that Weber and Nylander would get along fine... Nylander would sit at the other end of the locker room, closer to the mirrors. Weber not so much.

on the other hand... Weber might now get along with Barrie... who apparently is a defenseman as well... they might have some philosphical differences of opinion
- BorjeFan4Ever

I wonder if Barrie got Gardiner’s old locker.

Weber had hidden value.

At a certain point, Nashville has to trade for him back, or they are franked so hard if he retires early, they would have to fold the franchise.

They have to send him to Robidas Island.
- Atomic Wedgie

They need a lockout, to have traded for him and then an unconditional buyout to be allowed.

I wonder if Barrie got Gardiner’s old locker.
- Atomic Wedgie

if so... hopefully it comes with a Game 7 ejection seat.