One more thought I would like to throw out there is trading for Vladislav Namestnikov. He is a UFA this offseason and would come relatively cheap, maybe a 5th round pick. Namestnikov has shown that he can play with elite players like he did with Stamkos and Kucherov in Tampa Bay. He is also a 50.5% average lifetime Corsi.

He would be an ideal low risk, high reward guy the Jets could experiment with and if he does not pan out in the top 9, could be a good 4th line guy.

Just some Ultimate thoughts....
- TheUltimateJet

I like this. That is all I have to say. No complaints or criticisms. Smart move.

New dream playoff lineup:

Connor-Scheifele-Laine
Ehlers-Copp-Wheeler
Perreault-Lowry-Roslovic
Harkins-Little-Appleton

Morrissey-Byfuglien
Niku-Pionk
Kulikov-Poolman

New dream playoff lineup:

Connor-Scheifele-Laine
Ehlers-Copp-Wheeler
Perreault-Lowry-Roslovic
Harkins-Little-Appleton

Morrissey-Byfuglien
Niku-Pionk
Kulikov-Poolman
- Rexypoo

If we make the playoffs, maybe bang-on for the 18 skaters.

If we make the playoffs, maybe bang-on for the 18 skaters.
- grahamzky

Erect.

New dream playoff lineup:

Connor-Scheifele-Laine
Ehlers-Copp-Wheeler
Perreault-Lowry-Roslovic
Harkins-Little-Appleton

Morrissey-Byfuglien
Niku-Pionk
Kulikov-Poolman
- Rexypoo

Ok, why not?

New dream playoff lineup:

Connor-Scheifele-Laine
Ehlers-Copp-Wheeler
Perreault-Lowry-Roslovic
Harkins-Little-Appleton

Morrissey-Byfuglien
Niku-Pionk
Kulikov-Poolman
- Rexypoo

I honestly like the lineup overall. Charlie asked 'why not' so here are my questionables about the proposed lineup:

Copp at 2C - he is a valuable player however has not proven himself in that role and are we really gaining anything when considering the loss of the chemistry on Lowry's wing? Ehlers, Wheeler, Rosy have had some good success and may benefit more from scoring depth of Little's return and spreading opposition thinner as they defend.

Niku - The man has much to prove (hopefully he is looking at it like that too) about playing in the NHL. I am not ready to count on him to provide any huge gain. My expectations for him for this week (he will improve) is to prove himself a viable replacement for Sbisa - who has been good for having a different skillset than Niku. I love the competitiveness of Bitetto but Niku has shown enough skating and puck skill to push him past Tony on my depth chart.

Both the offside rule and the review process need to be tweaked.

The rule would be much more easily interpreted by making the much talked about change of using the plane of the blueline as the standard without consideration for the skate being on the ice. Much easier to get the call right and fans will have more confidence in the ruling.

Review process needs to be tweaked: There was no blueline camera angle (provided by TSN) that showed (Roslovic?) was ahead of the puck. The one with potential to show the puck and skater had the puck camouflaged by the backdrop of fans wearing dark clothing. If the ruling is definitive it should be absolutely clear early in the review process - reviews should be time limited to about 30seconds and then it is the call on the ice that prevails.

It all gets lost in a 4-0 win but that was a potential huge moment in the game and went without scrutiny by fans. It is important to call these moments out because eventually something similar will happen when it matters more.

I honestly like the lineup overall. Charlie asked 'why not' so here are my questionables about the proposed lineup:

Copp at 2C - he is a valuable player however has not proven himself in that role and are we really gaining anything when considering the loss of the chemistry on Lowry's wing? Ehlers, Wheeler, Rosy have had some good success and may benefit more from scoring depth of Little's return and spreading opposition thinner as they defend.

Niku - The man has much to prove (hopefully he is looking at it like that too) about playing in the NHL. I am not ready to count on him to provide any huge gain. My expectations for him for this week (he will improve) is to prove himself a viable replacement for Sbisa - who has been good for having a different skillset than Niku. I love the competitiveness of Bitetto but Niku has shown enough skating and puck skill to push him past Tony on my depth chart.
- 2.0

My argument, for both players, is that they’ve never been given a real chance to prove themselves in these roles before now.
It’s fair to be sceptical, but nothing about Andrew Copp says he can’t be a 2C in this league. Even his counting stats are at or near that level. He screams “give me a bigger role” with his play more than anyone else on this team right now.
Niku just needs steady minutes with a regular partner. He’s too good not to level it out once that happens.

My argument, for both players, is that they’ve never been given a real chance to prove themselves in these roles before now.
It’s fair to be sceptical, but nothing about Andrew Copp says he can’t be a 2C in this league. Even his counting stats are at or near that level. He screams “give me a bigger role” with his play more than anyone else on this team right now.
Niku just needs steady minutes with a regular partner. He’s too good not to level it out once that happens.
- Rexypoo

not going to argue with your points on either player. Copp has earned a bigger role with every opportunity and Niku's future is in the NHL for at least the next few years. Steady minutes with a non-constipated partner would help.

not going to argue with your points on either player. Copp has earned a bigger role with every opportunity and Niku's future is in the NHL for at least the next few years. Steady minutes with a non-constipated partner would help.
- 2.0

Copp would be a great third line center, if he did not have to carry Lowry all the time.

Niku is a top four defenseman that Maurice does not believe in. He still has Bitteto, Sbisa, Kulikov, Beaullieu and Dahlstrom all ahead of Niku.

The Jets will improve once Maurice is gone!

Copp would be a great third line center, if he did not have to carry Lowry all the time.

Niku is a top four defenseman that Maurice does not believe in. He still has Bitteto, Sbisa, Kulikov, Beaullieu and Dahlstrom all ahead of Niku.

The Jets will improve once Maurice is gone!
- TheUltimateJet

This is all very accurate.

The Insiders say Matt Dumba is available. Now, depending on scouts reports of course, there is a D-man I would be interested in if Jets want to upgrade their d this season.

The Insiders say Matt Dumba is available. Now, depending on scouts reports of course, there is a D-man I would be interested in if Jets want to upgrade their d this season.
- grahamzky

Yeah Dumba would be nice to get but what are you willing to give up to get him?

He's got three more seasons after this one at $6 million per year, is having a down year though.

Yeah Dumba would be nice to get but what are you willing to give up to get him?

He's got three more seasons after this one at $6 million per year, is having a down year though.
- JetFuel

Yea, the down year is a question. Is it because of off-ice issues, never really recovered from last season's injury or just, like you say, a down year? If it's the latter, might be worth looking into even though the same division.

What would be give up is another good question. This would depend on scouts analysis of above reasons for down year. Much of this speculation depends on the Buff situation. Or might Buff be part of the deal?

Can't afford Dumba salary cap wise unless Buff goes, retires or is put on LTIR..

Another possibility, IF Samberg doesn't want to sign in Wpg, a 2nd and the rights to Samberg? Not if Samberg wants to sign here though.

Thoughts?

Yeah Dumba would be nice to get but what are you willing to give up to get him?

He's got three more seasons after this one at $6 million per year, is having a down year though.
- JetFuel

The Wild would most likely want a first, an A+ prospect and a roster player. They might want a premium for him moving within the division. A potential trade for Dumba would most likely look like:

To WPG: Matt Dumba

To MINN: Conditional 2020 first round pick (If the Jets fail to make the playoffs the pick becomes a 2021 first round pick), Declan Chisholm, Dmitri Kulikov (due to him having an expiring contract), Rights to Dustin Byfuglien

One thing is for sure, Chevelallseasonoff would not make this deal as he would the cost "too high" and that he "believes in this group of people". As long as the player is not on the waiver wire, Chevy will not notice him. In the waiver wire warrior I trust.

Yea, the down year is a question. Is it because of off-ice issues, never really recovered from last season's injury or just, like you say, a down year? If it's the latter, might be worth looking into even though the same division.

What would be give up is another good question. This would depend on scouts analysis of above reasons for down year. Much of this speculation depends on the Buff situation. Or might Buff be part of the deal?

Can't afford Dumba salary cap wise unless Buff goes, retires or is put on LTIR..

Another possibility, IF Samberg doesn't want to sign in Wpg, a 2nd and the rights to Samberg? Not if Samberg wants to sign here though.

Thoughts?
- grahamzky

Byfuglien's salary for this year is already on LTIR, whether he decides to return or not. Half of Little's salary for this year is also on LTIR.

Yea, the down year is a question. Is it because of off-ice issues, never really recovered from last season's injury or just, like you say, a down year? If it's the latter, might be worth looking into even though the same division.

What would be give up is another good question. This would depend on scouts analysis of above reasons for down year. Much of this speculation depends on the Buff situation. Or might Buff be part of the deal?

Can't afford Dumba salary cap wise unless Buff goes, retires or is put on LTIR..

Another possibility, IF Samberg doesn't want to sign in Wpg, a 2nd and the rights to Samberg? Not if Samberg wants to sign here though.

Thoughts?
- grahamzky

Look up the Hamonic and Muzzin trades, I'm certain Dumba would cost way more then
Samberg and a 2nd to acquire.

The Wild would most likely want a first, an A+ prospect and a roster player. They might want a premium for him moving within the division. A potential trade for Dumba would most likely look like:

To WPG: Matt Dumba

To MINN: Conditional 2020 first round pick (If the Jets fail to make the playoffs the pick becomes a 2021 first round pick), Declan Chisholm, Dmitri Kulikov (due to him having an expiring contract), Rights to Dustin Byfuglien

One thing is for sure, Chevelallseasonoff would not make this deal as he would the cost "too high" and that he "believes in this group of people". As long as the player is not on the waiver wire, Chevy will not notice him. In the waiver wire warrior I trust.
- TheUltimateJet

I get it that you're not a Chevy or Maurice fa. Trust me!

Your offer, not bad, but I, as GM, would not give up my 2020 1st rd pick. How about tweaking this to: K. Vesalainen (former 1st rd'er who's not a Panarin), 2nd rd pick, rights to Samberg (if "no" to Wpg), and rights to Buff?

That's a pretty good haul for the Wild. So basically a 1st, 2nd, Samberg and Buff. Now what's the deal with Dumba is the question for the Jets?

Have to remember that we can only protect 3 d-men at expansion draft.

Look up the Hamonic and Muzzin trades, I'm certain Dumba would cost way more then
Samberg and a 2nd to acquire.
- JetFuel

Yea, you may be right. But this is a starting point eh?

Who would you add to get the Wild's attention? I'm not giving up our 2020 1st rd'er.

Byfuglien's salary for this year is already on LTIR, whether he decides to return or not. Half of Little's salary for this year is also on LTIR.
- TheUltimateJet

What happens if Buff or Little return which is not out of the realm of possibility?

I know you say that Buff and half of Little's salary are on LTIR. Where do you see this? On Cap Friendly Buff is just listed as suspended and Little on Injury Reserve.

It does show us with lots of current cap space, but don't know what happens if the missing return?

I get it that you're not a Chevy or Maurice fa. Trust me!

Your offer, not bad, but I, as GM, would not give up my 2020 1st rd pick. How about tweaking this to: K. Vesalainen (former 1st rd'er who's not a Panarin), 2nd rd pick, rights to Samberg (if "no" to Wpg), and rights to Buff?

That's a pretty good haul for the Wild. So basically a 1st, 2nd, Samberg and Buff. Now what's the deal with Dumba is the question for the Jets?

Have to remember that we can only protect 3 d-men at expansion draft.
- grahamzky

Samberg will not say no to Winnipeg. His best bud and former defensive partner in Neal Pionk is playing here. That is one of the major reasons why Chevy sought him out over Deangelo.

What happens if Buff or Little return which is not out of the realm of possibility?

I know you say that Buff and half of Little's salary are on LTIR. Where do you see this? On Cap Friendly Buff is just listed as suspended and Little on Injury Reserve.

It does show us with lots of current cap space, but don't know what happens if the missing return?
- grahamzky

Even if Byfuglien returns, he has been injured this entire time and thus his cap hit until this point would be retroactive to the LTIR. If Byfuglien decides to return, I don't see it with the Jets. I can see him being moved for a pick or an equivalent contract. The NHL did a huge favour for the Kings, when they terminated Richards contract. The Jets do have the grounds to terminate Byfuglien's contract at the end of the season as well for failing to show up. Byfuglien can return anytime, however has refused to do so.

Why Little would want to return is beyond me. The guy is one head shot away from being crippled for life.

Samberg will not say no to Winnipeg. His best bud and former defensive partner in Neal Pionk is playing here. That is one of the major reasons why Chevy sought him out over Deangelo.
- TheUltimateJet

Interesting. Good I hope you're right.

Even if Byfuglien returns, he has been injured this entire time and thus his cap hit until this point would be retroactive to the LTIR. If Byfuglien decides to return, I don't see it with the Jets. I can see him being moved for a pick or an equivalent contract. The NHL did a huge favour for the Kings, when they terminated Richards contract. The Jets do have the grounds to terminate Byfuglien's contract at the end of the season as well for failing to show up. Byfuglien can return anytime, however has refused to do so.

Why Little would want to return is beyond me. The guy is one head shot away from being crippled for life.
- TheUltimateJet

Don't know about the salary cap implications, but agree with you other two points. However Little is back practicing, and Buff, well who knows?
Liable to skate out in the Jets opening line-up some night. You just never know with him.

Yea, you may be right. But this is a starting point eh?

Who would you add to get the Wild's attention? I'm not giving up our 2020 1st rd'er.
- grahamzky

I don't think they should trade the 2020 1st either.

So maybe the 2021 1st plus something else, maybe an Appleton, this is under the assumption the Wild are looking to get younger but they're in a weird spot with the ages of some of their guys plus the money/term left on Suter and Parise, maybe they're looking to retool rather then rebuild because of those two but who knows.

So something like: 2021 1st, Samberg, 2020 2nd, Appleton? Does that even sound like enough to get it done? I'm not exaggerating that's what I think it'd take so at what point is it too much?

I think they'd be better off to look for a cheaper acquisition cost dman then Dumba would be.