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taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:42 PM ET
Guess Murray cant handle a real team.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:43 PM ET
Good gawd. Pull Murray.
- madmike71

This was about as predictable as all could be.

Murray is a problem, but the bruins just are this teams white whale. Combined with the early afternoon game, which has never been their forte. They won’t even sniff a loser point in this one. Just make it out without injury.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:43 PM ET
Guess Murray cant handle a real team.
- taleisyreXIII

Guess not
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Jan 19 @ 12:45 PM ET
This should be enough to realize they need to move on from Murray. I don’t see this team getting by the Bruins in the playoffs. They don’t match up well and if Jarry can’t do it, Murray definitely cannot.

Sounds doom and gloom, but they are not competitive against them and Murray’s a compete head case.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:45 PM ET
Murray just gave up his number one spot IMO
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 19 @ 12:48 PM ET
This was about as predictable as all could be.

Murray is a problem, but the bruins just are this teams white whale. Combined with the early afternoon game, which has never been their forte. They won’t even sniff a loser point in this one. Just make it out without injury.

- stayinthefnnet


JMO... although Jarry was giving up a few goals, I didn't see many stinkers. While JJ went to the wrong man on the first goal, Murray was so slow getting over. The 2nd goal was all Murray. Should have been a 3rd goal on his decision to go so far out of the net.

The team isn't helping him, but I think Jarry has their confidence.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Jan 19 @ 12:48 PM ET
Murray just gave up his number one spot IMO
- 668710

I think Murray’s heading to the trading block.
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:52 PM ET
I think Murray’s heading to the trading block.
- iworkatinitech

This was his last chance for me. This team needs 2 capable tenders to win a cup...and without jake I just dunno. Move mur for whatever u can...resign jar asap and get desmith back up here. Give that the rest of the year and see where we r at then.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:52 PM ET
I think Murray’s heading to the trading block.
- iworkatinitech

He hasn't been consistent since his dad passed away. And he seems like he just keeps getting worse.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 19 @ 12:54 PM ET
I think Murray’s heading to the trading block.
- iworkatinitech


Certainly not this season.
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:54 PM ET
He hasn't been consistent since his dad passed away. And he seems like he just keeps getting worse.
- 668710

Since being injured on team north america...and even before that the jig was up on his glove hand...the whole league had sniffed that out.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jan 19 @ 12:55 PM ET
Murray just gave up his number one spot IMO
- 668710


Maybe, but Jarry gave up 4 last game to them. I don't think we match up well against Boston at this time. I also think Boston is quicker to the puck generally than we are when we match up. They look hungrier to me.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Jan 19 @ 12:55 PM ET
This was his last chance for me. This team needs 2 capable tenders to win a cup...and without jake I just dunno. Move mur for whatever u can...resign jar asap and get desmith back up here. Give that the rest of the year and see where we r at then.
- taleisyreXIII

This is where I’ve been. They’ve exceeded my expectations for the year but without kale and Dumo I’m not sure how likely it is they are in it for a cup the tender situation is long over at this pointe trade Murray and move DeSmith up here.
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
Certainly not this season.
- Rinosaur

Serious q...what do y do then? Pay the man 4 plus mil for that crap...or keep him playing like this and let him go for absolutely nothing?
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Jan 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
Maybe, but Jarry gave up 4 last game to them. I don't think we match up well against Boston at this time. I also think Boston is quicker to the puck generally than we are when we match up. They look hungrier to me.
- powerhouse

By no means do I put this entirely on Murray but he is by no means helping them
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 19 @ 12:57 PM ET
Serious q...what do y do then? Pay the man 4 plus mil for that crap...or keep him playing like this and let him go for absolutely nothing?
- taleisyreXIII


Murray, while playing awful right now, has been good as of late. Having a goalie of his caliber as your back-up is a great situation to be in. You ride the season out then evaluate your situation. If you decide on Jarry you move MM's RFA rights.

EDIT: Jarry hasn't been that great the last few games.
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:57 PM ET
By no means do I put this entirely on Murray but he is by no means helping them
- iworkatinitech

Why wouldnt you...you think the whole team likes seeing that kind of start from him?
PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:58 PM ET
That first one let in by Murray is a team killer. Deflating. The second one was not real good either.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 19 @ 12:59 PM ET
Serious q...what do y do then? Pay the man 4 plus mil for that crap...or keep him playing like this and let him go for absolutely nothing?
- taleisyreXIII


I'd give him easy matchups like Detroit and trade him in the off-season.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jan 19 @ 12:59 PM ET
Why wouldnt you...you think the whole team likes seeing that kind of start from him?
- taleisyreXIII



Sullivan is to blame for this, what kind of bone head thinks that MM belongs anywhere near the net against the Bruins
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Jan 19 @ 1:00 PM ET
Why wouldnt you...you think the whole team likes seeing that kind of start from him?
- taleisyreXIII

No my point is that the team doesn’t match up well against heavy fast teams (bruins, caps, etc)...so while Murray sucks and hurts them when he starts most times he isn’t the only reason they don’t tend to beat the bruins
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jan 19 @ 1:00 PM ET
I'd give him easy matchups like Detroit and trade him in the off-season.
- madmike71


I’d give him the starting job in WBS where he belongs.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 19 @ 1:02 PM ET
Wow...not the best game to be watching with the little guy so far ...🙃
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Jan 19 @ 1:02 PM ET
I'd give him easy matchups like Detroit and trade him in the off-season.
- madmike71

Or the Phantoms, sound tigers and bears!
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Jan 19 @ 1:03 PM ET
Murray, while playing awful right now, has been good as of late. Having a goalie of his caliber as your back-up is a great situation to be in. You ride the season out then evaluate your situation. If you decide on Jarry you move MM's RFA rights.

EDIT: Jarry hasn't been that great the last few games.

- Rinosaur

Jarry hasnt been bad tho...none of the goals look as putrid as Murray's often do. I think jarry needed a bit of a break, but he has significant upsides that Murray does not. He could faulter entirely and then we r really screwed. The point is..murray hasnt been good consistently decent for a very very long time...and I just dont see signs of improvement...arguably signs of further regression. To me he isnt on the team no matter what after this year. I say you sell as high as possible...deadline is the most over inflated time to move someone.
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