lulags
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Location: St Louis Joined: 02.24.2007
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2014 NHL DRAFT
2:35 Tampa - Dominik Masin
7:181 Buffalo - Victor Olofsson - TheSabresTaco
Yup, we can do this all day long right!
I’ve said this before and I will day it again. There are about 6-10 sure fire NHL studs in the draft every DECADE. The rest are a gamble. |
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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I dont know how I would feel. He does look pretty incredible but how many years is he away a couple? - hubie
6k probably gets to the NHL before Askarov
But that’s fine
Nothing wrong with having multiple talented young goalies
And eventually, having them in a time share keeps the price down on both |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Yup, we can do this all day long right!
I’ve said this before and I will day it again. There are about 6-10 sure fire NHL studs in the draft every DECADE. The rest are a gamble. - lulags
hasek, thomas and brodeur all won vezinas at 34
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I love how people here bring up a 2nd line centers name and immediately met with. He sucks or something like that
When our center depth looks like:
Johansson
Lazar
Larsson
Erod - lazar goes 2C sometimes
We should be open to taking anyone and everyone.
Literally 95% of the players named are than the current centers we have |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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you can't say he wouldn't come here
they didn't try to get him, even though they should have
you can say , you think he wouldn't come here, but you can't say there was no chance he would come here
unless you served his agent a beer and heard this - homiedclown
Well obviously it opinion based
But the points i made certainly back him not coming here
And if we didn’t try (do u know that for a fact?),
maybe it was bc it was widely known that Phil wanted to go play for Tocchet in ARZ |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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6k probably gets to the NHL before Askarov
But that’s fine
Nothing wrong with having multiple talented young goalies
And eventually, having them in a time share keeps the price down on both - jdfitz77
1 out of 8 goalies taken in the first round pan out, see earlier post
pretty sure we need a "safer" pick this summer |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Well obviously it opinion based
But the points i made certainly back him not coming here
And if we didn’t try (do u know that for a fact?),
maybe it was bc it was widely known that Phil wanted to go play for Tocchet in ARZ - jdfitz77
yes I know that for a fact
so saying he WOULD NOT come here, is just wrong
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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1 out of 8 goalies taken in the first round pan out, see earlier post
pretty sure we need a "safer" pick this summer - homiedclown
I feel Sabres fans would love Holloway. Canadian kid who went the college route at Wisconsin. Has the feel of a guy who is guaranteed to be a middle 6 NHLer |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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1 out of 8 goalies taken in the first round pan out, see earlier post
pretty sure we need a "safer" pick this summer - homiedclown
with this organization there is no safe pick
everything ive read is he is a cant miss.... but ive read that about a few goalies but the kid looks great. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I love how people here bring up a 2nd line centers name and immediately met with. He sucks or something like that
When our center depth looks like:
Johansson
Lazar
Larsson
Erod - lazar goes 2C sometimes
We should be open to taking anyone and everyone.
Literally 95% of the players named are than the current centers we have - Sabretooth9
eichel, hopkins, cozens, casey, asplund and larsson will do just fine |
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hubie
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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I feel Sabres fans would love Holloway. Canadian kid who went the college route at Wisconsin. Has the feel of a guy who is guaranteed to be a middle 6 NHLer - Pegullaville
I would be a fan, hes one of the few i looked at earlier in the year. The type of guy i want in the Mid 6 |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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This curve looks reasonable in graph form, but it really predicts that goalies will fall off a cliff from age 35 on:
Change from 35 to 36 years old: -.005
Change from 36 to 37 years old: -.006
Change from 37 to 38 years old: -.007
Change from 38 to 39 years old: -.008
Change from 39 to 40 years old: -.009
https://hockey-graphs.com...-at-a-goalie-aging-curve/ - homiedclown
Sure seems to me like Hutton has already fallen off the cliff, if not hit the bottom |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Sure seems to me like Hutton has already fallen off the cliff, if not hit the bottom - jdfitz77
or coaching
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I would be a fan, hes one of the few i looked at earlier in the year. The type of guy i want in the Mid 6 - hubie
the safe picks if we are 8-12 range is zary and holloway
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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I would be a fan, hes one of the few i looked at earlier in the year. The type of guy i want in the Mid 6 - hubie
He doesn’t have the potential upside that a guy like Gunler or Mysak might have in the 10-15 range but definitely looks like a guy who can be a solid role player at the very least. |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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the safe picks if we are 8-12 range is zary and holloway - homiedclown
Only thing that worries me about Zary is that he is an older player in this years class and the foot speed is average. However his playmaking ability is top notch and he is known to hold his own defensively. Wouldn’t mind him in the Blue and Gold either if we can’t get one of the Big 8. |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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He doesn’t have the potential upside that a guy like Gunler or Mysak might have in the 10-15 range but definitely looks like a guy who can be a solid role player at the very least. - Pegullaville
One thing ive come to notice is when people gush over skating ability they tend to hit more often then the flashy stat guy. in my amateur opinion |
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hubie
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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Only thing that worries me about Zary is that he is an older player in this years class and the foot speed is average. However his playmaking ability is top notch and he is known to hold his own defensively. Wouldn’t mind him in the Blue and Gold either if we can’t get one of the Big 8. - Pegullaville
for example
A little wonky in his stride, but has some power to his base, good balance and moves smoothly up ice.
scares me a bit
other
Will gain the leg strength that is missing. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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1 out of 8 goalies taken in the first round pan out, see earlier post
pretty sure we need a "safer" pick this summer - homiedclown
Fair, but outside the top10 is generally risky,
regardless of position
Askarov & Knight have been the highest rated goalie prospects to come out in quite a while
I liked Knight better personally
That said...
if we go with a forward, I’m totally cool with that too
Hopefully a goal scoring winger
We could use another sniper type to go with our pass first guys (Cozens & Mitts) |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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yes I know that for a fact
so saying he WOULD NOT come here, is just wrong - homiedclown
Saying he was an option doesn’t have anything to back it up
Again,
it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that he was going to ARZ |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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or coaching - homiedclown
At 34 years old,
I don’t think anything a coach says has a guy who’s been stopping pucks his whole life suddenly suck
The guy is declining
It’s pretty obvious |
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hubie
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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Saying he was an option doesn’t have anything to back it up
Again,
it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that he was going to ARZ - jdfitz77
The Ted's Location is under an hour to the arena so theres that |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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At 34 years old,
I don’t think anything a coach says has a guy who’s been stopping pucks his whole life suddenly suck
The guy is declining
It’s pretty obvious - jdfitz77
its very odd to me that as we improved the D he got worse. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Again,
it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that he was going to ARZ - jdfitz77
agree to disagree |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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At 34 years old,
I don’t think anything a coach says has a guy who’s been stopping pucks his whole life suddenly suck
The guy is declining
It’s pretty obvious - jdfitz77
he was not declining at the start of the season
I think it's an injury/conditioning problem
http://www.espn.com/nhl/p...g/_/id/5420/carter-hutton |
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