thatsapickle
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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With the new TV deal and expansion money, the cap is going to go up, so I doubt it will ever be a bad deal, but I'd like to think the Sabres good do better for Risto. Maybe not though - jcragcrumple
I think the price for Risto was already set and it wasn't going to be matched because it was extremely high.
He's playing well, but if they follow the 7-3-1 model, and resign Montour long term, Risto is not getting protected. |
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I think the price for Risto was already set and it wasn't going to be matched because it was extremely high.
He's playing well, but if they follow the 7-3-1 model, and resign Montour long term, Risto is not getting protected. - thatsapickle
unless Botts does somethign crazy like sign Montour for a 1 year 8 mil salary with a hand shake we will get you long term after the expansion draft.. I highly doubt it but you never know |
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jcragcrumple
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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unless Botts does somethign crazy like sign Montour for a 1 year 8 mil salary with a hand shake we will get you long term after the expansion draft.. I highly doubt it but you never know - SabresFaninIndiana
The "reverse labanc" if you will |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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unless Botts does somethign crazy like sign Montour for a 1 year 8 mil salary with a hand shake we will get you long term after the expansion draft.. I highly doubt it but you never know - SabresFaninIndiana
Or you let him to to arb and just take the contract he’s given ? |
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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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Or you let him to to arb and just take the contract he’s given ? - Pegullaville
My guess is that Montour will get closer to $5M next year. |
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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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I decided to look into what the Stars fans have on Cap Friendly and saw this:
DAL
Ristolainen, Rasmus
BUF
Oleksiak, Jamie
Comeau, Blake
Tufte, Riley
2021 2nd round pick (DAL)
I honestly don't know how to feel about it.
gut reaction, is a hard no from me. |
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Or you let him to to arb and just take the contract he’s given ? - Pegullaville
i think the over payment is part of it so that he feels like we got his back more than just going to arb |
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I decided to look into what the Stars fans have on Cap Friendly and saw this:
DAL
Ristolainen, Rasmus
BUF
Oleksiak, Jamie
Comeau, Blake
Tufte, Riley
2021 2nd round pick (DAL)
I honestly don't know how to feel about it.
gut reaction, is a hard no from me. - thatsapickle
is oleksiak RD or LD.. if he is left no way we do it, can't have Botts picking up any of those |
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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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is oleksiak RD or LD.. if he is left no way we do it, can't have Botts picking up any of those - SabresFaninIndiana
He is listed as an LD |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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I decided to look into what the Stars fans have on Cap Friendly and saw this:
DAL
Ristolainen, Rasmus
BUF
Oleksiak, Jamie
Comeau, Blake
Tufte, Riley
2021 2nd round pick (DAL)
I honestly don't know how to feel about it.
gut reaction, is a hard no from me. - thatsapickle
Im not sure the sum of the parts would do it for me. I may be wrong but we get back bottom range stuff.
Blake Comeau was sweet on NHL 14 though
wait its a hard no for me.... take away the 2nd and I dont even know if I do that deal for Girgernsons |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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It's become abundantly clear that Botterill is not trading Risto for a dump. It will be player for player. Real players. |
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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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Im not sure the sum of the parts would do it for me. I may be wrong but we get back bottom range stuff.
Blake Comeau was sweet on NHL 14 though
wait its a hard no for me.... take away the 2nd and I dont even know if I do that deal for Girgernsons - hubie
Riley Tufte is the only piece of interest, but it still seems like a vast overpayment by the Sabres.
The only interest in Tufte is his size. I know nothing about him. |
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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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It's become abundantly clear that Botterill is not trading Risto for a dump. It will be player for player. Real players. - TheSabresTaco
it doesn't make sense to move him now.
Let him keep playing as he is, and see if he can garner more interest in the offseason. |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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it doesn't make sense to move him now.
Let him keep playing as he is, and see if he can garner more interest in the offseason. - thatsapickle
You trade him when the value you receive is greater than the value he provides. Shouldn't matter when that is.
But, that's typically a move you don't see until the offseason. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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Yes he was. I definitely traded for him and trevor daley - jcragcrumple
a line of Comeau-Dauphin- ANyone
Stanley cup winner
also note that McDavid is an average at best player |
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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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I decided to look into what the Stars fans have on Cap Friendly and saw this:
- thatsapickle
They are usually really bad on the armchair gm section, but two that I would have done yesterday were (mind you these are from fans of the other teams):
Miller for Palat
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Vesey and a 7th for Matt Murray
I don't think anyone here would turn down either of those deals. |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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They are usually really bad on the armchair gm section, but two that I would have done yesterday were (mind you these are from fans of the other teams):
Miller for Palat
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Vesey and a 7th for Matt Murray
I don't think anyone here would turn down either of those deals. - adambuffalo
couldnt they get more? At the very least offer them to Seattle with something ontop goign back? |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I know we traded a first and Guhle for Montour, but I don’t see the hype about him. He’s good but nothing special. I would much rather move him in a trade. He is superfluous and much less valuable than Risto. |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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I know we traded a first and Guhle for Montour, but I don’t see the hype about him. He’s good but nothing special. I would much rather move him in a trade. He is superfluous and much less valuable than Risto. - Beethoven
Fascinating. |
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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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adambuffalo
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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I know we traded a first and Guhle for Montour, but I don’t see the hype about him. He’s good but nothing special. I would much rather move him in a trade. He is superfluous and much less valuable than Risto. - Beethoven
I think he could have more value because of Risto's struggles in the past playing for bad coaches on worse teams. I also think Montour will be looking for $5-6m.
I don't think he's much less valuable, but Risto is the only real physical guy we have that has some skill.
I would trade Montour before Risto. |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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I think he could have more value because of Risto's struggles in the past playing for bad coaches on worse teams. I also think Montour will be looking for $5-6m.
I don't think he's much less valuable, but Risto is the only real physical guy we have that has some skill.
I would trade Montour before Risto. - adambuffalo
I agree, however I think Botts likes Mountour made it his point to get Montour.
Id be interested to see the people on the inside if they know "his guys" who he is probably really out looking for.
Like GMTM clearly 100% we knew Robyn was his guy and the goalie #1 on his list |
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I know we traded a first and Guhle for Montour, but I don’t see the hype about him. He’s good but nothing special. I would much rather move him in a trade. He is superfluous and much less valuable than Risto. - Beethoven
No consistency in the lineup in a 7 man rotation. And he’s the one bouncing from left to right and switching partners, multiple times through a game.
Run 6 d, put him on a consistent pair and then let’s see what we have in him... |
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