Kessel was moved in the summer, and the other would never happen, atleast in a trade
- Buff36

What do you mean never happen? He was literally moved barely more than a month ago.

Also, yeah, Kessel was moved in the summer, great, and? I'm pretty sure it was obvious the Sabres needed forwards in the summer.

Botts is gun-shy. 2 (frank)ing years in a row he threw away a great start because he refused to make a move. Yeah, deals don't grow on trees, neither are they so rare as white bison.

He's not having a great year, still on pace for 50 points, but the Coyotes are weird; they don't give anyone ice time. Their leader is Hall with 18:42, Stepan is the only other forward over 18:00 with 18:01, Kessel is third with 17:38.
- Wetbandit1

Yeah, that would be great considering the next best RW after Reinhart is... Okposo

What do you mean never happen? He was literally moved barely more than a month ago.

Also, yeah, Kessel was moved in the summer, great, and? I'm pretty sure it was obvious the Sabres needed forwards in the summer.

Botts is gun-shy. 2 (frank)ing years in a row he threw away a great start because he refused to make a move. Yeah, deals don't grow on trees, neither are they so rare as white bison.
- Wetbandit1

I know the one was moved a month ago, just that we weren't ever gonna trade for him. And what were you gonna give for Kessel that Pit wanted.

What do you mean never happen? He was literally moved barely more than a month ago.

Also, yeah, Kessel was moved in the summer, great, and? I'm pretty sure it was obvious the Sabres needed forwards in the summer.

Botts is gun-shy. 2 (frank)ing years in a row he threw away a great start because he refused to make a move. Yeah, deals don't grow on trees, neither are they so rare as white bison.
- Wetbandit1

It’s more likely that the Coyotes are going to hand the Devils a top 15 pick this year than make the playoffs.

Would you live with Botts if he traded our first rounder this year to finish just outside the playoffs and watch Hall sign elsewhere in the offseason ?

It’s more likely that the Coyotes are going to hand the Devils a top 15 pick this year than make the playoffs.

Would you live with Botts if he traded our first rounder this year to finish just outside the playoffs and watch Hall sign elsewhere in the offseason ?
- Pegullaville

Highly suspect. 1 point out of the division lead. That's fewer points than your boy Nylander is beating Reinhart by

I know the one was moved a month ago, just that we weren't ever gonna trade for him. And what were you gonna give for Kessel that Pit wanted.
- Buff36

What Pittsburgh wanted was cap space and to get Phil out of there because he was (frank)ing with Malkin's headspace.

We could have offered both of those things, but Botterill opted for Miller and Vesey instead

Would they have taken the 2nd, 3rd and 5th we used for those two plus Erod and Nelson? I'll say yes

Highly suspect. 1 point out of the division lead. That's fewer points than your boy Nylander is beating Reinhart by
- jcragcrumple

2-3 game lead on teams that are ahead of them.

The coyotes need to hope they don’t win the games that they have in hand.

2-3 game lead on teams that are ahead of them.

The coyotes need to hope they don’t win the games that they have in hand.
- Pegullaville

No, 1-2 games. And they have the second best goal differential in that division, which is typically a good indicator of a playoff team

No, 1-2 games. And they have the second best goal differential in that division, which is typically a good indicator of a playoff team
- jcragcrumple

Still playing with fire.

What Pittsburgh wanted was cap space and to get Phil out of there because he was (frank)ing with Malkin's headspace.

We could have offered both of those things, but Botterill opted for Miller and Vesey instead

Would they have taken the 2nd, 3rd and 5th we used for those two plus Erod and Nelson? I'll say yes
- jcragcrumple

They got 2 former1st rnd picks for Kessel, Gally hasn't worked out, Joseph was a 1st in 2017. So again who were you giving up

2-3 game lead on teams that are ahead of them.

The coyotes need to hope they don’t win the games that they have in hand.
- Pegullaville

Regardless, we dont have to worry about that because our GM hasn't taken a swing in almost a year.

And when the Coyotes do make it this year, JB will be the only GM on the job for 3+ years to have never made the playoffs.

He's in a league of his own!

They got 2 former1st rnd picks for Kessel, Gally hasn't worked out, Joseph was a 1st in 2017. So again who were you giving up
- Buff36

I'm substituting picks for mediocre players. A 2nd, 3rd, 5th and Erod and Nelson. They probably want Johnson or Samuelson instead, and I say, "you got it"

Still playing with fire.
- Pegullaville

Well we dont have to worry about that because our GM doesn't make big mistakes. He makes a series of small mistakes that adds up to one big one

Well we dont have to worry about that because our GM doesn't make big mistakes. He makes a series of small mistakes that adds up to one big one
- jcragcrumple

The prospect pool that the Coyotes are accumulating is quite impressive. I can see why they did what they did, it’s just tough to think that they gave up a first for a rental (2 firsts if he resigns)

Regardless, we dont have to worry about that because our GM hasn't taken a swing in almost a year.

And when the Coyotes do make it this year, JB will be the only GM on the job for 3+ years to have never made the playoffs.

He's in a league of his own!
- jcragcrumple

I truly believe there will be moves to be made this offseason, perhaps I’m overestimating Botts’ intelligence and plan however I can rationalize what he’s done for the most part the past few years in terms of building though ending a few more high picks.

Hopefully this is the last time we pick top 15 for a long time. I fully expect us to be playoff bound next year or else Botts should join GMTM on the unemployment line.

The prospect pool that the Coyotes are accumulating is quite impressive. I can see why they did what they did, it’s just tough to think that they gave up a first for a rental (2 firsts if he resigns)
- Pegullaville

Teams give up 1sts for rentals. Teams actually try to win. Not this team, but teams. This team turns Scandella into Frolik and packs it up for a couple months while chaulking it up as a win

What Pittsburgh wanted was cap space and to get Phil out of there because he was (frank)ing with Malkin's headspace.

We could have offered both of those things, but Botterill opted for Miller and Vesey instead

Would they have taken the 2nd, 3rd and 5th we used for those two plus Erod and Nelson? I'll say yes
- jcragcrumple

Phil was going to Az... nothing botts would or could have offered would have changed that. rs-m Nmc ntc .... Phil wanted to be in AZ to golf and be with tochet. I’m in PGH and that was known forever here... can’t blame botts on Phil...

Phil was going to Az... nothing botts would or could have offered would have changed that. rs-m Nmc ntc .... Phil wanted to be in AZ to golf and be with tochet. I’m in PGH and that was known forever here... can’t blame botts on Phil...
- Gr8daygo

Yeah, no one ever waives their NTC to come here, until they do: Skinner, Frolik

Throw another excuse log on the fire

Yeah, no one ever waives their NTC to come here, until they do: Skinner, Frolik

Throw another excuse log on the fire
- jcragcrumple

Again, I’m in Pittsburgh. I know the environment around that time. It was Phil and Az. And that was it. Phil wasn’t going anywhere else... he’s crazy enough to just have “burgland” before being sent anywhere else...

I’m just as critical of botts... gally should have been hammered out 40 days ago!

Yeah, no one ever waives their NTC to come here, until they do: Skinner, Frolik

Throw another excuse log on the fire
- jcragcrumple

You know he nixed a deal to Minny right?

You know he nixed a deal to Minny right?
- sbroads24

Do we know if Botterill tried? We do not.

Bla, bla, bla. Continued excuses for a GM with a poop track record

Do we know if Botterill tried? We do not.

Bla, bla, bla. Continued excuses for a GM with a poop track record
- jcragcrumple

Didn't know you got to sit in on his meeting's and phone calls

Didn't know you got to sit in on his meeting's and phone calls
- Buff36

Just to name 2 that one team made.
- Wetbandit1

I think u need to re-read my post
Specifically, the bolded

Do u see other teams making trades right NOW that would help us?

No?
Ok, spare us then please
- jdfitz77

Also,
Kessel wasn’t waiving to come here

What Pittsburgh wanted was cap space and to get Phil out of there because he was (frank)ing with Malkin's headspace.

We could have offered both of those things, but Botterill opted for Miller and Vesey instead

Would they have taken the 2nd, 3rd and 5th we used for those two plus Erod and Nelson? I'll say yes
- jcragcrumple

And Kessel would’ve said,
“No, I’m not going to Buffalo. I told u guys I’d go play for my former coach who i really like. Make a deal happen with ARZ”