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Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 22 @ 12:33 PM ET
Also how heavy he is on the puck. Lifting his stick is like lifting an anvil.
- bmeltzer



Yes. To me he plays the game like a chess match better than almost anyone else. When not to waste the energy and when to absolutely attack. His nerves of steel don’t hurt either. He just always seems to put the dagger in at the right time.
Pompous
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ruskin, FL
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jan 22 @ 12:39 PM ET
"Did anyone notice Milbury's sigh when he realized the FLyers would win."

I was hoping it was his death rattle.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 22 @ 12:40 PM ET
Yes. To me he plays the game like a chess match better than almost anyone else. When not to waste the energy and when to absolutely attack. His nerves of steel don’t hurt either. He just always seems to put the dagger in at the right time.
- Peter Richards



I actually hate when our fans boo him or chant Sidney sucks, because he usually scores or does something shortly after
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 22 @ 12:42 PM ET
Oh and descent win last night. Took down and competed well with some of the top teams. Weird. I didn’t see any complaints recently about leadership. I’ll wait til the next loss I guess.

Said earlier this year with the injuries to maybe slide g bac to center. Not ideal long term but creates more depth. Like what the have been doing.

Anyone have thoughts on German last night. Wasn’t over noticeable which could be good. NAK and bunnaman has descent games.

Also anyone else watching last night....., didn’t it seem like the game was about to get chippy a couple different times then,.,, flat again. Pens playing us without emotion hurt them. Keep it up boys.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 22 @ 12:43 PM ET
I’m really torn in whether I think acquiring Carter would be good. The Kings would have to retain 50% of his remaining salary to make it work at all. The Flyers would still have to clear a little more cap space. Most likely in a separate deal.

Carter is still a good 2 way center, good on faceoffs, shoot first guy, and a right shot who can PK. I think it really depends on if Patrick can be back because I think the team will be in a playoff spot before the deadline.

- NC Flyers Fan


I'd stop thinking about it. What you see is what you get going forward with this team this season. Maybe a minor tweak but I can't fathom the Flyers getting big name players.
Pompous
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ruskin, FL
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jan 22 @ 12:49 PM ET
I hate Crosby as much as the next fan, but did you see that between the legs back to the play pass to Rust that luckily Moose saved? That was almost magical! I still hate him. Was that a great defensive effort, or did the Pens just sorta mail it in last night? Either way I'm happy, but Crosby and Malkin were kept in check most of the game
- DANCER


Moose said they had spoken about that type of pass. It was NOT an accident that he made that stop.
Sometimes preparation works, eh?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 22 @ 12:49 PM ET
Yeah I recall the point blank one on Rust now. Elliott was good (obviously have to be to get a shutout), my point was the Flyers overall team defense and structure was as good as I've seen it in along time. They were the better team by a wide margin which yielded very little quality scoring chances to the opposition.

I specifically went to Penguins website, heard Sullivan and Crosby saying it was all about them not playing desperate etc... instead of giving the Flyers credit. I hate when teams don't give credit to the opposition.

- PLindbergh31



Well said across the board.

bsw31usa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lindbergh31RIP!!!, PA
Joined: 01.12.2016

Jan 22 @ 12:51 PM ET
How is Lovejoy even a professional television personality??

I don't think he completed a single sentence last night without tripping himself up.

- GrittySauce

Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
I actually hate when our fans boo him or chant Sidney sucks, because he usually scores or does something shortly after
- arichardson22

I agree. He’s usually great against the Flyers.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 22 @ 1:01 PM ET
I agree. He’s usually great against the Flyers.
- Dkos



Never works for Crosby but does at times for head cases like Malkin.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
I’m really torn in whether I think acquiring Carter would be good. The Kings would have to retain 50% of his remaining salary to make it work at all. The Flyers would still have to clear a little more cap space. Most likely in a separate deal.

Carter is still a good 2 way center, good on faceoffs, shoot first guy, and a right shot who can PK. I think it really depends on if Patrick can be back because I think the team will be in a playoff spot before the deadline.

- NC Flyers Fan



What's missing is what would the Flyers have to give up to get him? You bring the Kings retaining salary into the picture and the cost goes up.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
Flyers got lucky, there is no way they can do this again without Chris Stewart
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 22 @ 1:19 PM ET
Gord Miller, one of the best in the business, did play-by-play last night.
- bmeltzer

Yeah Miller is fantastic. I'll take Gord Miller, Chris Cuthbert and Jim Hughson over anyone else.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 22 @ 1:23 PM ET
What's missing is what would the Flyers have to give up to get him? You bring the Kings retaining salary into the picture and the cost goes up.
- MJL


I would like to see them upgrade over Bunnaman for 4th line center if Patrick is not coming back. Outside of that, I am ok with seeing what this team can do.

They really don't have a lot of options to trade that won't create another hole. Ghost is probably the only player they could move in a bigger deal that carries a sizable salary.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
The plus side is that he'll rip it, and it usually gets through.
- Tomahawk


So it might help him to be out there with Niskanen who can't rip it, but can help him manage the puck at the blue line. Niskanen is scoring points at the same rate as Provorov on the PP.

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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
I’m really torn in whether I think acquiring Carter would be good. The Kings would have to retain 50% of his remaining salary to make it work at all. The Flyers would still have to clear a little more cap space. Most likely in a separate deal.
- NC Flyers Fan


Laughton for Carter at 50% should work under the cap.

Laughton is 10 years younger, but the Flyers don't seem to want to use him as the 3C.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jan 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
F1 is the first forechecker in, F3 is the high man who plays back.
- bmeltzer



Thanks Bill!
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 22 @ 1:35 PM ET
Laughton for Carter at 50% should work under the cap.

Laughton is 10 years younger, but the Flyers don't seem to want to use him as the 3C.

- Feanor


If Carter had one year left I would seriously consider getting him. Two more years after this one? No way.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 1:40 PM ET
Laughton for Carter at 50% should work under the cap.

Laughton is 10 years younger, but the Flyers don't seem to want to use him as the 3C.

- Feanor


Strong hard pass. Are you seriously suggesting that?
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 22 @ 1:48 PM ET
Strong hard pass. Are you seriously suggesting that?
- MJL


Not sure why guys want to move Laughton. He's been great and consistent for us going back to last season. Never takes a shift off
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Jan 22 @ 2:01 PM ET
from what I can see, Provorov is our best defenseman at moving the puck from the neutral zone to the offensive zone (and maintaining/regaining possession) which is one of the most important parts of a good PP

I can see why Vigneault wants him there
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
yeah, better get Provorov off the PP, all he's doing there is leading the league in PP goals for defensemen
- Coburns_Nose



Yeah, there were some interesting comments made last night.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 22 @ 2:10 PM ET
Management at my work signed off on a project at work called Project Bubba Ho Tep.

That is all.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
Niskanen is the kind of player that just manages the puck on the PP. He doesn't make plays and he's not a big threat with his point shot.
I don't disagree that changes are needed but in my opinion not the one that you're suggesting.

- MJL


I agree with those who say, Provorov allows pucks to bounce on him and unable to keep the puck in the offensive zone consistently but Provorov is young and has earned his spot on the top PP. All apart of the process of development. Replacing him with Niskanen is ridiculous. I wouldn’t blame AV if he decided to go back to ghost but it’s not like Ghost isn’t prone to mistakes on the Power Play. He’s allowed plenty of shorthanded goals and I think Provorov recovers defensively a lot better than Ghost should the puck leave the zone.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
from what I can see, Provorov is our best defenseman at moving the puck from the neutral zone to the offensive zone (and maintaining/regaining possession) which is one of the most important parts of a good PP

I can see why Vigneault wants him there

- Coburns_Nose


We’ve been spoiled by having Timonen, Streit and Ghost prior to Provorov. Some of us don’t realize how thin an argument it is to complain about Provorov on the Power Play right now. Let’s return to this debate in 4 to 6 years.
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