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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 4 @ 2:03 PM ET
I agree. But what if the Caps add Kreider or Toffoli? Arms races are a breeding pool for overpaying.
- jmatchett383


I have no real tangible evidence to support this, but I think regardless of who they add the Caps are on their way to being Tampa of last year.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:05 PM ET
I agree. But what if the Caps add Kreider or Toffoli? Arms races are a breeding pool for overpaying.
- jmatchett383


Wasn't Kreider injured over the weekend?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:05 PM ET
Yohe just did a trade likelihood article. I had to laugh because most likely to go was Galchenyuk and their 1st rounder. They aren't off the table completely, but sounds like Pens would prefer to hold onto their top 4 prospects.

Sidenote on Legare, I think the Pens value him more than other teams who all passed on him in the 2nd last year, so I'd be most surprised if he went even though I think Addison and Pouliot are much better at this point.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 4 @ 2:08 PM ET
Yohe just did a trade likelihood article. I had to laugh because most likely to go was Galchenyuk and their 1st rounder. They aren't off the table completely, but sounds like Pens would prefer to hold onto their top 4 prospects.

Sidenote on Legare, I think the Pens value him more than other teams who all passed on him in the 2nd last year, so I'd be most surprised if he went even though I think Addison and Pouliot are much better at this point.

- Tojo.


I don't think the Pens are going to sell high on a rental.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:09 PM ET
I agree. But what if the Caps add Kreider or Toffoli? Arms races are a breeding pool for overpaying.
- jmatchett383

One of those assets, sure, but not both for a rental. The Pens will add a wing, GMJR never comes away empty-handed. Doesn't need to be Hall.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:10 PM ET
Wasn't Kreider injured over the weekend?
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Just a fleshwound
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 4 @ 2:13 PM ET
Yohe just did a trade likelihood article. I had to laugh because most likely to go was Galchenyuk and their 1st rounder. They aren't off the table completely, but sounds like Pens would prefer to hold onto their top 4 prospects.

Sidenote on Legare, I think the Pens value him more than other teams who all passed on him in the 2nd last year, so I'd be most surprised if he went even though I think Addison and Pouliot are much better at this point.

- Tojo.


They did trade up to specifically get Légaré so I think they do value him quite a bit.
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Feb 4 @ 2:16 PM ET
I agree. But what if the Caps add Kreider or Toffoli? Arms races are a breeding pool for overpaying.
- jmatchett383

I know this scenario is hypothetical, the Caps are against the cap. They have, like $700K availible, which if they traded at the deadline could take on a $1.8mm contract.
Considering a trading team can only retain 50% of the contract... Kreider and Toffoli both make significantly more than $3.6mm...

Besides, Caps are "weaker" defensively and that is where they would like to spend thier remaining cap space...
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
Also from Yohe's article,

The untouchable core: Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Letang, Dumoulin, and new members Rust and Marino

Highly unlikely: Pettersson, McCann, Kahun, and the whole Blueger line.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
Agree, they're struggling to create offense and without Dumoulin aren't quite as sound defensively. Get Dump back, add a wing, and maybe a few more bodies (Kahun, Bjugstad) and it looks better.
- Tojo.


We have said this a ton but before Dumo as a team we controlled SCF% at 54% and HDCF% at 56%. We have been break even since he got hurt. We went from an top team in quality control to average as all hell. Getting Jack the hell out of the top and back to the basement minutes will do us wonders.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
Also from Yohe's article,

The untouchable core: Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Letang, Dumoulin, and new members Rust and Marino

Highly unlikely: Pettersson, McCann, Kahun, and the whole Blueger line.

- Tojo.


Did you hear about Rossi apparently floating around Domi to Pittsburgh rumors on some radio show today? Even a fan asked Yohe about it in the comment section of that article.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 4 @ 2:39 PM ET
Just a fleshwound
- jmatchett383


Nice Monty Python reference, but i believe he's got a conky.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:42 PM ET
Did you hear about Rossi apparently floating around Domi to Pittsburgh rumors on some radio show today? Even a fan asked Yohe about it in the comment section of that article.
- burgh4life87


I heard that. I wouldn't call it a rumor exactly...but by god Domi would be a perfect fit. Just imagine, we were about to trade Kessel for Domi one year earlier....but then we ended up with Galchenyuk instead. Yikes.

No idea why Montreal would trade Domi though.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 4 @ 2:49 PM ET
I heard that. I wouldn't call it a rumor exactly...but by god Domi would be a perfect fit. Just imagine, we were about to trade Kessel for Domi one year earlier....but then we ended up with Galchenyuk instead. Yikes.

No idea why Montreal would trade Domi though.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


I referenced this a couple of weeks ago and I read from someone in the Athletic (can't remember who) as well as on a radio show on sirius xm that MTL is the process of deciding whether to rip things down a bit or stay put.

The untouchable names they listed were Price and Weber.

The names they mentioned to be rumored were Tatar and Drouin, and to a lesser degree Domi, but they didn't feel Domi was super likely. Obviously with MTL falling further out of contention they're probably getting closer to a decision on how to proceed.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:54 PM ET
Nice Monty Python reference, but i believe he's got a conky.
- Rinosaur


He's had worse!
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 4 @ 3:16 PM ET
He's had worse!
- jmatchett383


I've personally become a bit more adverse to spending that kind of cost on a rental.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
Frank Servalli just posted an article on TSN about Maple Leaf goalie targets. When he brought up DeSmith he said he has heard that Florida tried to get him early and they were turned away. I need to know everything now
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Feb 4 @ 3:38 PM ET
I have no real tangible evidence to support this, but I think regardless of who they add the Caps are on their way to being Tampa of last year.
- Rinosaur


Naw. That was ya'll last year.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Feb 4 @ 3:40 PM ET
I know this scenario is hypothetical, the Caps are against the cap. They have, like $700K availible, which if they traded at the deadline could take on a $1.8mm contract.
Considering a trading team can only retain 50% of the contract... Kreider and Toffoli both make significantly more than $3.6mm...

Besides, Caps are "weaker" defensively and that is where they would like to spend thier remaining cap space...

- Beatnic57



Would be totally typical of the Caps to trade for a position they don't need though. Sup, Shattenkirk.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 3:53 PM ET
I have no real tangible evidence to support this, but I think regardless of who they add the Caps are on their way to being Tampa of last year.
- Rinosaur


Wouldn't that also make them the Caps of last year?
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Feb 4 @ 3:54 PM ET
He's had worse!
- jmatchett383


You're a looney.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Feb 4 @ 3:56 PM ET
Also from Yohe's article,

The untouchable core: Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Letang, Dumoulin, and new members Rust and Marino

Highly unlikely: Pettersson, McCann, Kahun, and the whole Blueger line.

- Tojo.


That leaves JJ and Simon.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 4 @ 4:00 PM ET
Naw. That was ya'll last year.
- Blackstrom2


You want another 2nd round ass whoopin? Lol
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