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vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 6 @ 11:34 AM ET
https://ingoalmag.com/fea...bell-reclamation-project/

interesting piece on Jack Campbell from a few years ago...seems he struggled early on with expectations and ended up trying to model his game after Hellybuck, whom he was playing with in the AHL early on in his career. This just messed him up and the goalie coach in L.A. had to completely rebuild his game/style from scratch.

Also seems early on he struggled to maintain focus after early/bad goals, but that has been fixed now? Hope so, as I don't know if the Leafs are good team for players that don't do well with pressure and meeting high expectations.


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 11:35 AM ET
We should all thank the hockey gods we got Matthews. He could turn out to be the best Leaf ever. It is a joy to watch him every game.
- Hockey_Reverend



Man, it was something else.. Watching him slam Skjei to the ice and then stopping a Kreider partial breakaway from happening, he is so good all over the ice..

It's such a treat to watch him play.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 11:36 AM ET
He's (a bit) better than Marner, but more enjoyable to watch Marner's plays.
- MaximusAurelius



By 'a bit' do you mean leaps and bounds better?
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Feb 6 @ 11:36 AM ET
Man, it was something else.. Watching him slam Skjei to the ice and then stopping a Kreider partial breakaway from happening, he is so good all over the ice..

It's such a treat to watch him play.

- PatC80


And he is only 22! Just wait until he gets his man strength!
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 6 @ 11:39 AM ET
well.. for me it is an important thing.
this just isn't a team which is great to watch - it's like they want to be the Harlem Globetrotters of hockey.. not what I'm looking for in a hockey team.

- MaximusAurelius


Sens are trying really hard and looking for fans.
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Feb 6 @ 11:39 AM ET
And he is only 22! Just wait until he gets his man strength!
- Hockey_Reverend

Exactly! The Coyotes are going to be so excited.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 11:41 AM ET
Sens are trying really hard and looking for fans.
- Garnie


Yeah, I heard....They are really pushing to get that 3rd fan on board.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 11:45 AM ET
https://ingoalmag.com/fea...bell-reclamation-project/

interesting piece on Jack Campbell from a few years ago...seems he struggled early on with expectations and ended up trying to model his game after Hellybuck, whom he was playing with in the AHL early on in his career. This just messed him up and the goalie coach in L.A. had to completely rebuild his game/style from scratch.

Also seems early on he struggled to maintain focus after early/bad goals, but that has been fixed now? Hope so, as I don't know if the Leafs are good team for players that don't do well with pressure and meeting high expectations.

- vermie22



Let's put it in context, we don't need Campbell to be better than Andersen, we need Campbell to be several levels better than Hutch, which he is... Also, getting Clifford, with salary retained was a great move.

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 6 @ 11:45 AM ET
I think Pierre climbs the ladder bumping one of the top 9 out of the mix. He and Mikky should be good value guys for another year or two.

Some top 9 forward is going to be moved but I kinda doubt it's Hyman. If he's looking to be paid like a 20+ goal guy for 4+ years then I'm with you - move on. But if he's content to realize he's the hardworking 3rd liner riding wingman with M&M and will take Kerfoot type $$$ then I say lock him up.

Kerfoot would be my preferred move. He wasn't a great centre but I feel like he's been invisible most nights since they pushed him to the wing.

- The Law


so what's left for this year?

upgrade ceci (maybe push holl down to the 3rd pair)?

upgrade at 3C? i like engvall better on the wing.

goat and timapoop are pretty pointless players. maybe grab another 4th liner?

monkey wrenches are: light on draft picks now and as it stands, we still need to drop to 21 player players if rielly is healthy.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 6 @ 11:46 AM ET
Sens are trying really hard and looking for fans.
- Garnie


haha
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 6 @ 11:47 AM ET
it was more fun watching the leafs when we had Grabovski, Kulemin etc.
not because we had a better team, but at least there was some sort of feeling that they were all trying to their best to get a win, in spite of the weaknesses.
this team just doesn't feel as caring that much.

- MaximusAurelius


Last night It looked like Auston was getting pissed and trying to get the leafs back in the game by going a bit beast mode...that is a good sign imo.

The Grabo/Kuly/Mac line was one of the best lines in the past 15 years. they were dominant for the season and half they were a thing.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 6 @ 11:51 AM ET
Leafs team sv% is now .899
25th in the League

Has any team made the playoff in the last decade with a .900 or below?

Has there been any word on Freddy?
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 6 @ 11:52 AM ET
Yeah, I heard....They are really pushing to get that 3rd fan on board.
- PatC80

Sens deleted that third fans account. No refunds says Eugene.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
He's (a bit) better than Marner, but more enjoyable to watch Marner's plays.
- MaximusAurelius


I've missed a period or two here or there (and all of yesterdays game) in the last 3 or 4 games - but aside from moments when he's good with the puck, I've thought Marner looks disinterested in retrieving or battling for the puck. The defensive side of his game of late - and to be honest a lot of this year - just hasn't seemed where it was last year.

I love just about everything Matthews does, and I think there's more to come with him.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 6 @ 11:54 AM ET
Exactly! The Coyotes are going to be so excited.
- Danny Bomber

In Houston?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 11:56 AM ET
Sens deleted that third fans account. No refunds says Eugene.
- gergeswillems


Eugene's gotta save some cash to pay for the moving trucks next season
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 11:57 AM ET
I've missed a period or two here or there (and all of yesterdays game) in the last 3 or 4 games - but aside from moments when he's good with the puck, I've thought Marner looks disinterested in retrieving or battling for the puck. The defensive side of his game of late - and to be honest a lot of this year - just hasn't seemed where it was last year.

I love just about everything Matthews does, and I think there's more to come with him.

- Monkeypunk



Last night, he was doing everything... Almost willed the team to victory, and then he realized that Hutchinson was still the goalie.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 6 @ 12:01 PM ET
Leafs team sv% is now .899
25th in the League

Has any team made the playoff in the last decade with a .900 or below?

Has there been any word on Freddy?

- senstroll


sv % is at a low point. still, it will be a mini-miracle to make the playoffs in-spite of the backup goaltending we got to this point.


2019-20 0.909
2018-19 0.910
2017-18 0.912
2016-17 0.913
2015-16 0.915
2014-15 0.915
2013-14 0.914
2012-13 0.912
2011-12 0.914
2010-11 0.913
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 6 @ 12:02 PM ET
for Max

Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:02 PM ET


Dubas not done.

Ceci, Hutch and Bracco buys you what?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 6 @ 12:02 PM ET
I've missed a period or two here or there (and all of yesterdays game) in the last 3 or 4 games - but aside from moments when he's good with the puck, I've thought Marner looks disinterested in retrieving or battling for the puck. The defensive side of his game of late - and to be honest a lot of this year - just hasn't seemed where it was last year.

I love just about everything Matthews does, and I think there's more to come with him.

- Monkeypunk


something is not right with him.

idk if the high ankle sprain is still bothering him? but he looks lost at times.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Feb 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
I like the move a lot...well a normal amount really. Fu3king finally Dubas.

I really can't believe we have players like Hutch and Marincin on this team still. If anything...wtf took so long???

The thing that really fu3ks with my head is how some of you guys can find sh1t to complain about with everything. How in the love of fu3k can you complain about this move...a couple of 3rd round picks and Trevor Gretzky Moore?!?!??!?! Jeezus fu3k.

We got a goalie and a player who can actually play and HIT and FIGHT for Trevor Moore and 2 picks that may never amount to anything.

One more D man and this team is MUCH better for a playoff run. (Dillon? LD?)

When the team is healthy we would look more like this:

Hyman, Matthews, Marner
Micheyev?, Tavares, Nylander (Micheyev may be out longer?)
Clifford, Kerfoot, Kapanen
Engvall, Spezza, Goat

Reilly?(Dillon), Barrie (Reilly may be out longer?)
Muzzin, Holl
Sandin, Ceci
Dermott

Andersen
Campbell

(frank), that's a lot better. Clifford, Micheyev and Hyman could move up and down the LW depending on which line needs to intimidate more.

Dillon for Johnsson + before the TDD, would be even better...(and Dillon being here in case Muzzin doesn't sign for the right price or expansion draft (?) isn't a bad thing either.)



Baby steps fellas.

(Manson next season when Barrie and one of Dillon/Muzzin/Dermott is gone)
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
I've missed a period or two here or there (and all of yesterdays game) in the last 3 or 4 games - but aside from moments when he's good with the puck, I've thought Marner looks disinterested in retrieving or battling for the puck. The defensive side of his game of late - and to be honest a lot of this year - just hasn't seemed where it was last year.

I love just about everything Matthews does, and I think there's more to come with him.

- Monkeypunk


Matthews I always thought could become a Selke winner and Rocket Richard trophy winner at same time - not sure whether that ever happen (and if so, who was last one to do that). Maybe my expectations of him were too high though - I had hoped he would develop more on the defensive side of the game, and be there in all situations.
Maybe I misunderstood - but I think I read he had no intentions of killing penalties? ("never did so, and no intention to start doing so anytime soon").
I said 2-3 seasons ago that the only reason why so many people had McDavid over Matthews was Canadian vs. 'Merican - but it seems that McDavid has made much more progress over last 3 seasons than Matthews.
I still believe Matthews can become the more complete player - and actually more valuable to a team than McDavid. Right now not looking as it though.

That being said - I always liked Marner and I think it is a pleasure to watch him play when in his groove. If you are looking for effectiveness - the edge goes to Matthews. Entertainment though, to me personally it's Marner over Matthews.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
Exactly! The Coyotes are going to be so excited.
- Danny Bomber

More excited or less excited than the Leafs getting McDavid?
Leafcup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Aurora, ON
Joined: 06.16.2016

Feb 6 @ 12:06 PM ET
Another goalie I doubt will make much difference without a good shut down defenseman.....now need to trade a package something like Johnsson, Bracco, Cecie for one
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