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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 4:08 PM ET
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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59m
The Leafs are among the +27 teams that inquired today about the Sharks Brendon Dillon. San Jose needs a lot to move him. A top prospect like Sandin, multiple draft picks including at least one 1st and a top 6 cost conrolled winger like Kapanen would be the minimum. Price is going up hourly. Leafs may need to strike now while they can still get him at a discount.

- Tumbleweed



PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 4:10 PM ET
You could say that about every guy in Jersey, and probably 6% of the women, too.
- Monkeypunk


There is a lot of talk about the Devils moving Subban.. We know the Leafs had interest in the summer, but Nashville didn't want to retain salary.
Maybe NJ will?

Plus, I think the Devils would rather have prospects/roster players and not draft picks..
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 6 @ 4:10 PM ET
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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59m
The Leafs are among the +27 teams that inquired today about the Sharks Brendon Dillon. San Jose needs a lot to move him. A top prospect like Sandin, multiple draft picks including at least one 1st and a top 6 cost conrolled winger like Kapanen would be the minimum. Price is going up hourly. Leafs may need to strike now while they can still get him at a discount.

- Tumbleweed


Why is it the 'Leafs insider' is always talking trading the farm for a normy or offer sheets against he Leafs or over the top contracts to Leaf FAs? Dreger is nuts.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Feb 6 @ 4:11 PM ET
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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59m
The Leafs are among the +27 teams that inquired today about the Sharks Brendon Dillon. San Jose needs a lot to move him. A top prospect like Sandin, multiple draft picks including at least one 1st and a top 6 cost conrolled winger like Kapanen would be the minimum. Price is going up hourly. Leafs may need to strike now while they can still get him at a discount.

- Tumbleweed


once again Dreger clearly indicating he's completely out to lunch.

"Sandin, Kapanen for a #4 defenseman at best"...


HARD PASS Darren... HARD PASS (what an ass)
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 6 @ 4:12 PM ET
Why is it the 'Leafs insider' is always talking trading the farm for a normy or offer sheets against he Leafs or over the top contracts to Leaf FAs? Dreger is nuts.
- aminnes


I think it's a joke
WendelClark82
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 12.08.2012

Feb 6 @ 4:12 PM ET
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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59m
The Leafs are among the +27 teams that inquired today about the Sharks Brendon Dillon. San Jose needs a lot to move him. A top prospect like Sandin, multiple draft picks including at least one 1st and a top 6 cost conrolled winger like Kapanen would be the minimum. Price is going up hourly. Leafs may need to strike now while they can still get him at a discount.

- Tumbleweed


Might be a little rich for the Buds. Is Dillion Nick Lidstrom 2.0??
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 6 @ 4:13 PM ET
Like the trade. Both guys are guys I wanted ion the Leafs.

The only concern with it is the trading away of picks and the UFA walk aways will eventually catch up to the club if they don't get some return at some point on those assets.

At this point I think Sandin has shown he's getting better quickly and defensively he is eclipsing Barrie already. With that being the case Barrie's value becomes basically PP only on the Leafs as they have so many guys that contribute to the offence, it might be wise to let him go and get a 1st or a prospect back in return to keep the train rolling.

Don't want to end up with zero picks or prospects in 3 years because they went for it too hard.

- aminnes


I have to say this every time you bring it up. It's like a Pavlovian response: Teams who are going for it don't trade their UFA players unless the UFA player has no real value to the team's potential in the playoffs.

That said, I agree that after this year they need to start keeping their 1sts and ensuring that they rebuild the cupboard with some quality assets. Without those guys, it's much harder to fill your 3 & 4 lines with affordable yet talented players.

We may have gotten lucky drafting late with Sandin, and to a greater extend, Robertson. But you can't rely on trying to land on a late round Zetterberg to solve your problems!

The young prospects both represent the ability to fill the roster at a low cost, or they are assets that can be used to fill a more obvious need. Either way, you need that flexibility.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 4:13 PM ET
Might be a little rich for the Buds. Is Dillion Nick Lidstrom 2.0??
- WendelClark82



Nic Lidstrom wishes he was Brendan Dillon
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Feb 6 @ 4:13 PM ET
I know Kase and Manson would cost a lot and that the Ducks would probably want picks and prospects if they want to rebuild.. Just saying, it would be nice to get those two guys.


- PatC80


I'm waiting for a ducks fan to show up and write a condescending blog-novel in response to this
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
There is a lot of talk about the Devils moving Subban.. We know the Leafs had interest in the summer, but Nashville didn't want to retain salary.
Maybe NJ will?

Plus, I think the Devils would rather have prospects/roster players and not draft picks..

- PatC80


I know, I was kidding . . you know about how awful New Jersey is. It's not funny if I have to explain it, Pat.

I think Subban wants out. I think Shero wants Subban out. How badly is the $5m question.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
I'm waiting for a ducks fan to show up and write a condescending blog-novel in response to this
- BestRapperAlive




Me: I wish the Leafs had Manson and Kase.

Random Ducks fan: Typical Leafs homer, Kase is better than Mitch Marner..
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Feb 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
I was ecstatic to hear about ceci....then i realized it would mean marincin.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
WendelClark82
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 12.08.2012

Feb 6 @ 4:16 PM ET
I know, I was kidding . . you know about how awful New Jersey is. It's not funny if I have to explain it, Pat.

I think Subban wants out. I think Shero wants Subban out. How badly is the $5m question.

- Monkeypunk



Didn't Shero get fired??
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 4:16 PM ET
I know, I was kidding . . you know about how awful New Jersey is. It's not funny if I have to explain it, Pat.

I think Subban wants out. I think Shero wants Subban out. How badly is the $5m question.

- Monkeypunk


I thought your joke was that 6% of the population of New Jersey was female.

That number seems a little high
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 4:17 PM ET
Didn't Shero get fired??
- WendelClark82


Yes, because he didn't want to trade Subban?
WendelClark82
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 12.08.2012

Feb 6 @ 4:18 PM ET
Yes, because he didn't want to trade Subban?
- PatC80



My bad. I thought it was because he put together a really bad hockey team.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 6 @ 4:19 PM ET
I thought your joke was that 6% of the population of New Jersey was female.

That number seems a little high

- PatC80


It was more meant that 6% of the females would identify as guys.

I'm not sure how to do gender identity humour.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Feb 6 @ 4:19 PM ET
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
·
59m
The Leafs are among the +27 teams that inquired today about the Sharks Brendon Dillon. San Jose needs a lot to move him. A top prospect like Sandin, multiple draft picks including at least one 1st and a top 6 cost conrolled winger like Kapanen would be the minimum. Price is going up hourly. Leafs may need to strike now while they can still get him at a discount.

- Tumbleweed



Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 6 @ 4:21 PM ET
Didn't Shero get fired??
- WendelClark82


Oh yeah. It's hard to think of Tom Fitzgerald, General Manager. I was so used to thinking of him as just a bad hockey player.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 4:22 PM ET
My bad. I thought it was because he put together a really bad hockey team.
- WendelClark82


I mean, sure you can blame that on him too..

Traded for Hall and Subban... Drafted Hischier and Hughes..

What a putz Shero is
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 6 @ 4:22 PM ET
I have to say this every time you bring it up. It's like a Pavlovian response: Teams who are going for it don't trade their UFA players unless the UFA player has no real value to the team's potential in the playoffs.

That said, I agree that after this year they need to start keeping their 1sts and ensuring that they rebuild the cupboard with some quality assets. Without those guys, it's much harder to fill your 3 & 4 lines with affordable yet talented players.

We may have gotten lucky drafting late with Sandin, and to a greater extend, Robertson. But you can't rely on trying to land on a late round Zetterberg to solve your problems!

The young prospects both represent the ability to fill the roster at a low cost, or they are assets that can be used to fill a more obvious need. Either way, you need that flexibility.

- Monkeypunk



Barrie is not a need on the Leafs though. They can score no problem without him therefore he is expendable and therefore he is one UFA that even in a go for it year they should have no problem dealing.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 4:23 PM ET
It was more meant that 6% of the females would identify as guys.

I'm not sure how to do gender identity humour.

- Monkeypunk

Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Feb 6 @ 4:23 PM ET
Kapanen + Barrie for Bennett + Hamonic


Ceci + Johnsson + Bracco + 4th + 6th for Subban (50% retained)


Rielly-Hamonic
Muzzin-Subban
Sandin-Holl


PLAN. THE. PARADE.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 4:26 PM ET
Barrie is not a need on the Leafs though. They can score no problem without him therefore he is expendable and therefore he is one UFA that even in a go for it year they should have no problem dealing.
- aminnes



Right now, he is a need... Rielly is out, and to a lesser extent so is Ceci..We need Barrie for the PP.

Matthews-Tavares-Marner-Nylander-Barrie are working well.
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