Not sure why everyone suddenly thinks playoffs are practically impossible lol.

We're 10th in the conference, but tied with Carolina (they have 1 game in hand), 1 point behind Florida (2 games in hand), and 2 points back of 7th place Philly (1 game in hand).

While they could gain more points with those games in hand, they can also lose. We aren't far back and there's still 28 games left lol.

While I wish we were in a better position right now, it's not exactly a hopeless situation. A short winning streak could put us back in a playoff spot.

Not sure why everyone suddenly thinks playoffs are practically impossible lol.

We're 10th in the conference, but tied with Carolina (they have 1 game in hand), 1 point behind Florida (2 games in hand), and 2 points back of 7th place Philly (1 game in hand).

While they could gain more points with those games in hand, they can also lose. We aren't far back and there's still 28 games left lol.

While I wish we were in a better position right now, it's not exactly a hopeless situation. A short winning streak could put us back in a playoff spot.
- Thecakeisalie

It’s easy to be negative and edgy.

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/nhl/stanley-cup-odds/

This site has them at 8th.
- bobbyisno1

Let’s take that with a grain of salt, though.

Odds do not reflect who Vegas thinks will win.

They reflect who the public thinks will win.

In all sports, New York, Chicago and LA teams will always be favoured higher, because fat guys on business trips will happily drop coin on their teams.

Leafs Nation too.

Not sure why everyone suddenly thinks playoffs are practically impossible lol.

We're 10th in the conference, but tied with Carolina (they have 1 game in hand), 1 point behind Florida (2 games in hand), and 2 points back of 7th place Philly (1 game in hand).

While they could gain more points with those games in hand, they can also lose. We aren't far back and there's still 28 games left lol.

While I wish we were in a better position right now, it's not exactly a hopeless situation. A short winning streak could put us back in a playoff spot.
- Thecakeisalie

Making the playoffs will not be easy for the Leafs. Their schedule is one of the harder ones left in the NHL. Look at their schedule in February and how many games they have to play in 28 days.

But let's assume they make the playoffs, even though in reality it looks like 50/50 at best right now. They play Boston, Tampa Bay or Washington.

It's a 1st round exit. This is not the year. Sell the UFAs, plan for next year.

Making the playoffs will not be easy for the Leafs. Their schedule is one of the harder ones left in the NHL. Look at their schedule in February and how many games they have to play in 28 days.

But let's assume they make the playoffs, even though in reality it looks like 50/50 at best right now. They play Boston, Tampa Bay or Washington.

It's a 1st round exit. This is not the year. Sell the UFAs, plan for next year.
- JohnFergusonJr

Nothing is a guarantee in the playoffs, besides Boston beating the Leafs.

You have the right to your opinion but remind yourself that its just your opinion and you haven't been proven right because you made an assumption.

Making the playoffs will not be easy for the Leafs. Their schedule is one of the harder ones left in the NHL. Look at their schedule in February and how many games they have to play in 28 days.

But let's assume they make the playoffs, even though in reality it looks like 50/50 at best right now. They play Boston, Tampa Bay or Washington.

It's a 1st round exit. This is not the year. Sell the UFAs, plan for next year.
- JohnFergusonJr

We could argue whether or not you are right, but we both know the Leafs will not be sellers at the deadline.

Nothing is a guarantee in the playoffs, besides Boston beating the Leafs.
- systemtool

And that wild card teams usually get their asses kicked the vast majority of the time especially when they play like the Leafs and try to win games 6-5.

Nothing is a guarantee in the playoffs, besides Boston beating the Leafs.
- systemtool

Agreed.

Nothing is a guarantee in the playoffs, besides Boston beating the Leafs.
- systemtool

Maye he's worried his brewns will lose this time around?

We could argue whether or not you are right, but we both know the Leafs will not be sellers at the deadline.
- Atomic Wedgie

Plus, arguing with him just goes nowhere and eventually you will get tired and bored of it, while he'll just keep on going like a depressed energizer bunny.

Nothing is a guarantee in the playoffs, besides Boston beating the Leafs.
- systemtool

And Toronto beating Ottawa.

And Montreal beating Boston.

And Boston and the refs beating other teams.

We could argue whether or not you are right, but we both know the Leafs will not be sellers at the deadline.
- Atomic Wedgie

They most definitely should be. Dubas should have some fancy numbers that prove it to be true. Considering what Muzzin and Barrie cost and the lack of results, the most logical course of action is to recover those assets and use them to acquire guys that actually produce an improvement on the ice.

I'm not saying move Muzzin and Barrie for 1st round picks and wait for those picks to turn into players. But if you can get those 1st round picks (plus more) and turn them into a legit top pair RHD, now we're cooking with gas. One step back to take two forward.

If 100,000 idiots go out and put money on something tomorrow, they move the line. It's about balancing the line, it's not about who actually has the best chances to win.
- JohnFergusonJr

Or 1 guy on a website? ( I didn’t want to use the word idiot yet )

Without looking up too much I’d say they’re a top 10 team in the league and have been for a couple years...sure they’re struggling...it happens.

And that wild card teams usually get their asses kicked the vast majority of the time especially when they play like the Leafs and try to win games 6-5.
- JohnFergusonJr

All 4 wild card teams made the 2nd round last year. Are you ever right?

They most definitely should be. Dubas should have some fancy numbers that prove it to be true. Considering what Muzzin and Barrie cost and the lack of results, the most logical course of action is to recover those assets and use them to acquire guys that actually produce an improvement on the ice.

I'm not saying move Muzzin and Barrie for 1st round picks and wait for those picks to turn into players. But if you can get those 1st round picks (plus more) and turn them into a legit top pair RHD, now we're cooking with gas. One step back to take two forward.
- JohnFergusonJr

You didn’t read my post.

All 4 wild card teams made the 2nd round last year. Are you ever right?
- systemtool

How many wild card teams have a parade playing the way the Leafs play?

They most definitely should be. Dubas should have some fancy numbers that prove it to be true. Considering what Muzzin and Barrie cost and the lack of results, the most logical course of action is to recover those assets and use them to acquire guys that actually produce an improvement on the ice.

I'm not saying move Muzzin and Barrie for 1st round picks and wait for those picks to turn into players. But if you can get those 1st round picks (plus more) and turn them into a legit top pair RHD, now we're cooking with gas. One step back to take two forward.
- JohnFergusonJr

Pretty sure Dubas has looked at the results https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL and some how come to a different conclusion then you, hence the talk about a new Muzzin contract.

How many wild card teams have a parade playing the way the Leafs play?
- JohnFergusonJr

Pittsburgh

Can we ignore the troll

He left once and he will do it again.

You didn’t read my post.
- Atomic Wedgie

I got what you're saying; they're not going to. I'm just saying they should.

It’s easy to be negative and edgy.
- Steven_Seagull

Shoutout to James Tanner.

How many wild card teams have a parade playing the way the Leafs play?
- JohnFergusonJr

Its irrelevant to what i responded to. You dont need to try to cover up your non factual assumptions, that were proven wrong, by creating a new angle for the sake of arguing. Maybe take a time out. You seem confrontational and aggressive to anyone who proves you wrong or disagrees with you. Might need a nap or some confidence in yourself.

Or 1 guy on a website? ( I didn’t want to use the word idiot yet )

Without looking up too much I’d say they’re a top 10 team in the league and have been for a couple years...sure they’re struggling...it happens.
- Garnie

The standings disagree this year. They are where they should be. A lot of teams have adversity. The Penguins have had injuries like crazy. They're still playing well. The Leafs are a fragile, immature team. Their ability to succeed in the playoffs is a blue and white pipe dream. It's precisely why people have to lean on the poopty argument that "anything can happen" in the face of facts and reality that it rarely does for teams that play like the Leafs.

How many wild card teams have a parade playing the way the Leafs play?
- JohnFergusonJr

To be honest, I think we can make a run at it and still retool on the fly if we lose.

You’re not going to attract many players trading key pieces away while trying to make the playoffs and win a cup. End up chasing guys away, and they’ll just walk instead of resigning etc.


Muzzin is probably being resigned, and if we are way out in 2-3 weeks the you may get your wish with some trades ie. Barrie etc.

Can we ignore the troll

He left once and he will do it again.
- Santo_44

I wont respond to him anymore. He offers nothing of substance and is just going to continue to belittle other peoples intelligence and argue for the sake of argueing.