sorry guys

100% the Leafs will not be getting pk , ever, not even for free.
- Lucas.Neilson

So, you're saying I should buy my Subban Leafs jersey on Feb 21st?

disagree.

They almost traded for him in the offseason if it wasn't for NJ doing NSH a favor.
- Santo_44

I assure you the Leafs will not get PK

and they have 0 interest in him.

don't hate me for knowing this and squishing your hopes. but its the truth.

disagree.

They almost traded for him in the offseason if it wasn't for NJ doing NSH a favor.
- Santo_44

that's true.. I think they wanted Nashville to retain $3-$4M but Nashville said 'no'

sorry guys

100% the Leafs will not be getting pk , ever, not even for free.
- Lucas.Neilson

Agreed. Lindsey Vonn ruined him. She is The Succubus

So, you're saying I should buy my Subban Leafs jersey on Feb 21st?
- PatC80

if you feel like burning some money, go for it haha

Agreed. Lindsey Vonn ruined him. She is The Succubus


- floater_willy

lol! PK is not liked by anyone and his game has gone to poop.

trust me, pick a guy like Manson to talk about - much better odds!

mind you - I think the Leafs have a bigger target than Manson - I really do think they are going to go for it with a bold move.

that's true.. I think they wanted Nashville to retain $3-$4M but Nashville said 'no'
- PatC80

They said no because NJ was fine with taking the whole contract.

Which now we can see that Subban shouldn't of been traded without having salary retained.

Wow, just looked him up. Guy scored a lot of goals. 40 goals a few times. Seriously though, never heard of him...
- Hockey_Reverend

I remember him because he was in my 1988 panini sticker book

I remember him because he was in my 1988 panini sticker book



- senstroll

I had that too

They said no because NJ was fine with taking the whole contract.

Which now we can see that Subban shouldn't of been traded without having salary retained.
- Santo_44

was a big mistake no doubt...glad we didn't make it!

lol! PK is not liked by anyone and his game has gone to poop.

trust me, pick a guy like Manson to talk about - much better odds!
- Lucas.Neilson

Come on don't Max it up...Don't be so influenced by the media.

Friedman(one of the few insiders I actually trust) said no beuno on Manson so not better odds. At all.

was a big mistake no doubt...glad we didn't make it!
- Lucas.Neilson

I would trade him for a retained salary and according to Lebrun and others so would Dubas...

So looks like this is something you don't agree with Dubas and that is unfortunate for you.

Come on don't Max it up...Don't be so influenced by the media.

Friedman(one of the few insiders I actually trust) said no beuno on Manson so not better odds. At all.
- Santo_44

Freidman said it about Dumba as well.. That they are available, but you'll have to significantly overpay

Come on don't Max it up...Don't be so influenced by the media.

Friedman(one of the few insiders I actually trust) said no beuno on Manson so not better odds. At all.
- Santo_44

This is such a buzzkill comment. Don't ruin our Friday. The messenger is always to blame.

lol! PK is not liked by anyone and his game has gone to poop.

trust me, pick a guy like Manson to talk about - much better odds!

mind you - I think the Leafs have a bigger target than Manson - I really do think they are going to go for it with a bold move.
- Lucas.Neilson

really?
almost 10million dollars raised for the Montreal Children's hospital, and you're putting him in a corner as Phaneuf v2.0..??

This is such a buzzkill comment. Don't ruin our Friday. The messenger is always to blame.
- floater_willy

I blame the Athletic, they brought up Subban as one of the top 5 players the Leafs should target.

I had that too
- PatC80

great memories trying to get a full set, buying the stupid packs for 25 cents or whatever..then trading at school.

kids today just stuck in thier room playing fordnight on thier phones and masturbating.

I blame the Athletic, they brought up Subban as one of the top 5 players the Leafs should target.
- PatC80

I would take a chance on PK with $6 shmillion retained.

great memories trying to get a full set, buying the stupid packs for 25 cents or whatever..then trading at school.

kids today just stuck in thier room playing fordnight on thier phones and masturbating.
- senstroll

Man, that brings back some great memories.. I mean the collecting and trading of hockey cards/stickers.. Not the other two things you mentioned

Come on don't Max it up...Don't be so influenced by the media.

Friedman(one of the few insiders I actually trust) said no beuno on Manson so not better odds. At all.
- Santo_44

Yeah, This. The GM of the Ducks basically said he isn't trading Manson - now if it's a ploy to drive up his market value, that's fine - but we're not in a position to be overpaying.

I'll ignore you for now, Lucas, and think that PK is still someone who is under consideration in the right circumstances (salary retention / cost of acquisition) - "zero interest" is probably an exaggeration.

"PK Subban or Cody Ceci at $4.5m"
"Oh, I have zero interest in PK Subban. I secretly hate goaltenders and like to see them scored on."

The only way I would look at Subban is if it’s a full 50% retained. Wouldn’t be giving anything of value up either. Maybe a Ceci and bracco but that’s about it.

I would take a chance on PK with $6 shmillion retained.
- floater_willy

Same here..

If we could make the cap work for next season as well.

was a big mistake no doubt...glad we didn't make it!
- Lucas.Neilson

that's how i kind of feel. we dodged the bullet.

at best, i don't think he'll be more than a 30ish point dman at this point in his career. but maybe not even that.

ppg:

2010-11 0.49
2011-12 0.44
2012-13 0.90
2013-14 0.65
2014-15 0.73
2015-16 0.75
2016-17 0.61
2017-18 0.72
2018-19 0.49
2019-20 0.23

so the D for tonight?

Muzzin-Holl
Dermott-Barrie
Sandin-Liljegren

I think thats something like Dubas envisioned playing out.
I mean I hope....Ceci was never in the long term plans

I hope the Leafs can lock down some sort of reliable 6 that they can run with.
Id still take an upgrade on Holl and/or Barrie

Yeah, This. The GM of the Ducks basically said he isn't trading Manson - now if it's a ploy to drive up his market value, that's fine - but we're not in a position to be overpaying.

I'll ignore you for now, Lucas, and think that PK is still someone who is under consideration in the right circumstances (salary retention / cost of acquisition) - "zero interest" is probably an exaggeration.

"PK Subban or Cody Ceci at $4.5m"
"Oh, I have zero interest in PK Subban. I secretly hate goaltenders and like to see them scored on."
- Monkeypunk

Ceci had to go and get injured, which reduces his trade value from a negative 10% to a negative 20%.. Can he do anything right?