What does it take to get Cirelli out of Tampa ?
- Pairo11

Mittelstadt and next year's top-10 protected 1st

Off season

This thread is like groundhog day for the insane

Little late to think that way, but I believe so too
- Buff36

Of course. Everything is revisionist history at this point, but yes.

This thread is like groundhog day for the insane
- Powerslave

Thank you for not calling it groundhogs day. That’s what it is here in MN, drives me nuts.

Mittelstadt and next year's top-10 protected 1st

Off season
- jcragcrumple

I’d say more like mitts/dman and a 2nd, and I’d say do it.

They could of drafted Dubois instead and saved a first rounder each of the past two years taking a crack at the Center position.

You win down the middle and on the back end
- Pegullaville

You win all sorts of ways.

One way you don’t win is by letting players, in their prime, who score goals, walk away.

For the 800th time, WE ALL AGREE he was overpaid.

We also would be worse without him. Despite what the last month has been like

I’d say more like mitts/dman and a 2nd, and I’d say do it.
- TheHank

Yeah, I don't think TB trades him

Of course. Everything is revisionist history at this point, but yes.
- TheHank

I said this months before Skinner signed his deal.

I said tank for Cozens while we were still in a playoff spot cause the 10 games win streak was like a blind squirrel finding a nut. Took poop for that too but now everyone can’t wait to put him into our lineup.

Last offseason I said the CBJ’s should of dealt Panarin and Bob and accumulate assets since they were not resigning. Jarmo makes the deals for Duchene and Dzingel to “win now” and they got a playoff series victory out of it but who is going to remember that 5 years from now ? CBJ could have accumulated a top 10 prospect pipeline and still been on a 102 point pace this year. But hey they had to “win now”.

I said this months before Skinner signed his deal.

I said tank for Cozens while we were still in a playoff spot cause the 10 games win streak was like a blind squirrel finding a nut. Took poop for that too but now everyone can wait to put him into our lineup.

Last offseason I said the CBJ’s should of dealt Panarin and Bob and accumulate assets since they were not resigning. Jarmo makes the deals for Duchene and Dzingel to “win now” and they got a playoff series victory out of it but who is going to remember that 5 years from now ? CBJ could have accumulated a top 10 prospect pipeline and still been on a 102 point pace this year. But hey they had to “win now”.
- Pegullaville

CBJ is where they are now because they had and continue to have a win now mentality.

Stick to the stock market you’re becoming a new Fitz

CBJ is where they are now because they had and continue to have a win now mentality.

Stick to the stock market you’re becoming a new Fitz
- washedup20

No they are where they are because they are a strong defensive team and their goaltenders are making saves.

We are a strong defensive team and our goalies don’t make saves.

The Canes had the longest playoff drought in the NHL until they went to the ECF last year. Believe in those myths though.

Every year is different, the Sharks must have had a great culture coming into this season and how is that working out for them ?

No they are where they are because they are a strong defensive team and their goaltenders are making saves.

We are a strong defensive team and our goalies don’t make saves.

The Canes had the longest playoff drought in the NHL until they went to the ECF last year. Believe in those myths though.

Every year is different, the Sharks must have had a great culture coming into this season and how is that working out for them ?
- Pegullaville

I rest my case

I rest my case
- washedup20

Better luck next time bud !

CBJ is where they are now because they had and continue to have a win now mentality.

Stick to the stock market you’re becoming a new Fitz
- washedup20

They are were they are because they let there system build up and used FA to fill spots. And used that system to make trades.

They are were they are because they let there system build up and used FA to fill spots. And used that system to make trades.
- Buff36

Dude it must be because of a “win now” mentality. I’m puzzled into why LA and Chicago are on the outside looking in though with all of that playoff experience and cups. When did they decide to start losing ?

How are Vancouver and Colorado in playoff spots right now ? I’m stumped

Dude it must be because of a “win now” mentality. I’m puzzled into why LA and Chicago are on the outside looking in though with all of that playoff experience and cups. When did they decide to start losing ?

How are Vancouver and Colorado in playoff spots right now ? I’m stumped
- Pegullaville

The bad thing is we were starting to do that, and we (frank)ed it all up.

Dude it must be because of a “win now” mentality. I’m puzzled into why LA and Chicago are on the outside looking in though with all of that playoff experience and cups. When did they decide to start losing ?

How are Vancouver and Colorado in playoff spots right now ? I’m stumped
- Pegullaville

So would Columbus be better off with Panarin? That’s the question. He’s undoubtedly great, and absolutely a top 10-15 winger, but he’s also 10+ mil and plays the least important position in the game.

He has the second highest cap hit in the NHL. Is it safe to say the Rangers won’t ever win because they built through the wing position?

So would Columbus be better off with Panarin? That’s the question. He’s undoubtedly great, and absolutely a top 10-15 winger, but he’s also 10+ mil and plays the least important position in the game.

He has the second highest cap hit in the NHL. Is it safe to say the Rangers won’t ever win because they built through the wing position?
- sbroads24

Columbus has a lot of homegrown talent, anybody would love Panarin, but Columbus was able to absorb his loss, don't need a bunch of Stars just a good amount of decent fill your roll hockey players.The Rangers are better because Panarin makes them better. And no it doesn't mean they won't ever win as long as they get better around Panarin. But does that 10 mill affect them from doing it.

Columbus has a lot of homegrown talent, anybody would love Panarin, but Columbus was able to absorb his loss, don't need a bunch of Stars just a good amount of decent fill your roll hockey players.The Rangers are better because Panarin makes them better. And no it doesn't mean they won't ever win as long as they get better around Panarin. But does that 10 mill affect them from doing it.
- Buff36

It’s 11.25 mil. For a winger.

I’m just trying to figure out where the line is drawn.

Panarin is a superstar like Eichel. But he’s also playing the wing position, and is the second highest paid player in the NHL.

It’s 11.25 mil. For a winger.

I’m just trying to figure out where the line is drawn.

Panarin is a superstar like Eichel. But he’s also playing the wing position, and is the second highest paid player in the NHL.
- sbroads24

If your that good, does it matter what forward Position you play. He's the exception to that supposed theory.

So would Columbus be better off with Panarin? That’s the question. He’s undoubtedly great, and absolutely a top 10-15 winger, but he’s also 10+ mil and plays the least important position in the game.

He has the second highest cap hit in the NHL. Is it safe to say the Rangers won’t ever win because they built through the wing position?
- sbroads24

Sure, if the Rangers are still able to add a 2C and build a defence that is able to reduce high danger chances and not allow Colin Miller and Zemgus Girgensons to go 2 on 5 and score then they’ll have a shot.

Alex Ovechkin is the best goal scoring winger of all time and it took Washington 13 years to win the cup. They also had Kuznetsov and Backstrom who were top 20 Centers in the NHL, Carlson who had a Norris Trophy caliber season, and Holtby who was fantastic in the playoffs.

Most teams that win the cup utilize their cap space the best.

The Blues won the cup with Tarasenko but I don’t think many were complaining about him being overpaid. They also had ROR, Schenn, Bozak down the middle, 4 horses on the back end, and Binnington was stellar. They were one of the best teams in the league in reducing chances against once Berube took over and played strong defensive hockey. They one of the lowest GAA from January on. The Bruins were right behind them.

The Jets are built down the wings but have no defence and are barely scraping by cause they have no centers behind Scheifele and no defence. They bleed chances against. Hellebuyck having a Vezina type season is the only thing keeping the Jets alive right now.

If your that good, does it matter what forward Position you play. He's the exception to that supposed theory.
- Buff36

Bingo. There are a handful of wingers that drive lines across the NHL. Skinner is not one of them.

Bingo. There are a handful of wingers that drive lines across the NHL. Skinner is not one of them.
- Pegullaville

Kane is another.
Not getting into Skinner, he's a Sabre, hopefully we can find another player that helps both of them succeed for are team

Bingo. There are a handful of wingers that drive lines across the NHL. Skinner is not one of them.
- Pegullaville

Yet it’s been factually proven he can. Can he with two borderline NHL’ers? No.

But competent top 9 guys. Absolutely

There’s a reason why Johansson looked great to start the season. It’s because Skinner was playing well.

He’s not playing well right now. And I think he and Krueger are not on great terms

Yet it’s been factually proven he can. Can he with two borderline NHL’ers? No.

But competent top 9 guys. Absolutely

There’s a reason why Johansson looked great to start the season. It’s because Skinner was playing well.

He’s not playing well right now. And I think he and Krueger are not on great terms
- sbroads24

Sorry Skinner is in no way close to either Kane or Panarin. Kane and Panarin can drive there team, Skinner can't do that.

Sorry Skinner is in no way close to either Kane or Panarin. Kane and Panarin can drive there team, Skinner can't do that.
- Buff36

Kane and Panarin drive first lines. Skinner can drive a second. There's a difference.