I'm pretty sure he is blaming the team. Learn to read.
- Marwood

Back in your hole troll

I'm pretty sure he is blaming the team. Learn to read.
- Marwood

Tunnel vision, selective hearing and pom poms are a hell of a combo

Reality is that Edmonton has 1 game on us and is 1 pt behind. Reality is that if we were in the east, we wouldnt even be in the playoffs right now. Pom poms are bad for breakfast
- Codes1087

lol exactly

Reality is that Edmonton has 1 game on us and is 1 pt behind. Reality is that if we were in the east, we wouldnt even be in the playoffs right now. Pom poms are bad for breakfast
- Codes1087

Lol. "Reality is" we aren't in the East, and the team is performing/in a better position than most everyone thought they would be in. They have time to readjust....

Seems to be a lot of "snowflake" comments get thrown at the pom-pom crowd but the realists seem to get just as butthurt.

The Canucks definitely lack backbone, but outside of Boston and maybe Washington no team consistently plays that way. Calgary just got read the riot act by their coach so of course they came out with a chip. We've seen it happen before with the Canucks.

I do think this is a coaching/culture issue though. It's something they're really going to have address and instill. Especially this stretch and (hopefully) into the playoffs.

If we didn't have JTM this team would be fuked. Put that into perspective.

They didnt look soft against colorado at all, they just looked outplayed at every position. Series was awesome to watch
- Codes1087

MacKinnon in the playoffs is a beast ...Avs will win a cup eventually with this core

Lol. "Reality is" we aren't in the East, and the team is performing/in a better position than most everyone thought they would be in. They have time to readjust....

Seems to be a lot of "snowflake" comments get thrown at the pom-pom crowd but the realists seem to get just as butthurt.

The Canucks definitely lack backbone, but outside of Boston and maybe Washington no team consistently plays that way. Calgary just got read the riot act by their coach so of course they came out with a chip. We've seen it happen before with the Canucks.

I do think this is a coaching/culture issue though. It's something they're really going to have address and instill. Especially this stretch and (hopefully) into the playoffs.
- NewYorkNuck

Pettersson gets knocked out by a cheap/late hit and misses a game (no reaction)
Fantenburg gets a concussion from a high/questionable hit and the guy who responds is a call-up and then sits the next game.
Petey gets harassed literally all game, and he is the one to give it back, no reaction from anyone else.
I think a coach has a responsibility to prepare his players, but ultimately the players have to do the work and have to create the proper culture. Miller is the only one trying to establish that

Maybe lay off some
- Codes1087

If we didn't have JTM this team would be fuked. Put that into perspective.
- VanHockeyGuy

I liked the trade day 1. That’s a question for the whiners who thought trading the 1st was so invaluable. As for perspective our fan base is an embarrassment when it’s not going great.

MacKinnon in the playoffs is a beast ...Avs will win a cup eventually with this core
- Redmile247

Yes that’s a good bet imo

Punish the betas via press box/demotion/waiver. Establish players like miller and go out and get them.

Why is LE still a canuck, look at what boston did with Backes... look at andrew ladd in NYI
Why is schaller still a canuck.
Why hasnt beagle seen the press box once
Bailey has 3 hat tricks, macewen drops the gloves with foligno and then sits the next game.
- Codes1087

Still have to be able to play the actual hockey part of the game. Finding tough physical capable hockey players is hard to do.

There is no reason why LE should be a Canuck still is correct.

Natural progression took a big step forward this season for some Canucks players.

The vets are having bad seasons again.

Schaller less points in more games and a worse plus minus this year.
Beagle less points and a worse plus minus so far.
Eriksson would have been on pace for less points somehow.
Benn was a plus 15 in MTL last season and -6 with Canucks.

I want this team to make the playoffs but I think selling off expiring assets if good deals come in and vet presence should also be sold.

Not according to the Flames fans here at work but you tell yourself what you need to Red
- LordHumungous

Well If the people at lordH work say so it must be true lol

Lol. "Reality is" we aren't in the East, and the team is performing/in a better position than most everyone thought they would be in. They have time to readjust....

Seems to be a lot of "snowflake" comments get thrown at the pom-pom crowd but the realists seem to get just as butthurt.

The Canucks definitely lack backbone, but outside of Boston and maybe Washington no team consistently plays that way. Calgary just got read the riot act by their coach so of course they came out with a chip. We've seen it happen before with the Canucks.

I do think this is a coaching/culture issue though. It's something they're really going to have address and instill. Especially this stretch and (hopefully) into the playoffs.
- NewYorkNuck

Some realize that playoffs and regular season are different styles of hockey.

Pettersson gets knocked out by a cheap/late hit and misses a game (no reaction)
Fantenburg gets a concussion from a high/questionable hit and the guy who responds is a call-up and then sits the next game.
Petey gets harassed literally all game, and he is the one to give it back, no reaction from anyone else.
I think a coach has a responsibility to prepare his players, but ultimately the players have to do the work and have to create the proper culture. Miller is the only one trying to establish that
- Codes1087

I think it's both coach and players. Some one must be telling them to stand down. There is no way they can have so many PETA supports on one team. This 'get them with the power play' mantra is pure beta cowardice.

Still have to be able to play the actual hockey part of the game. Finding tough physical capable hockey players is hard to do.

There is no reason why LE should be a Canuck still is correct.

Natural progression took a big step forward this season for some Canucks players.

The vets are having bad seasons again.

Schaller less points in more games and a worse plus minus this year.
Beagle less points and a worse plus minus so far.
Eriksson would have been on pace for less points somehow.
Benn was a plus 15 in MTL last season and -6 with Canucks.

I want this team to make the playoffs but I think selling off expiring assets if good deals come in and vet presence should also be sold.
- manvanfan

I want them to make the playoffs too, but I also want them to grow a backbone and be a team. Not get pushed around and not allow the league to know before they play us what they can get away with.

I think it's both coach and players. Some one must be telling them to stand down. There is no way they can have so many PETA supports on one team. This 'get them with the power play' mantra is pure beta cowardice.
- Marwood

I can honestly see it being both. Green has been vocal about points being more important than retribution.

But when I see guys like sutter, LE, boeser, stecher, pearson, fantenburg, schaller, gaudette, none of these guys are notorious for even hugging a guy in a scrum.

Pettersson gets knocked out by a cheap/late hit and misses a game (no reaction)
Fantenburg gets a concussion from a high/questionable hit and the guy who responds is a call-up and then sits the next game.
Petey gets harassed literally all game, and he is the one to give it back, no reaction from anyone else.
I think a coach has a responsibility to prepare his players, but ultimately the players have to do the work and have to create the proper culture. Miller is the only one trying to establish that
- Codes1087

I agree, not arguing with anyone about the lack of response from the team. It starts with the culture of the room, and TG instilling in them a push back mentality, but like you said it's ultimately the players who have to carry that out.

Honestly, I love Bo, I thought he was going to make a good captain, but man he needs to step up and hit people. Start poop after a whistle. It's not enough to score and be defensively responsible, you gotta lead people into battle.

I also question how much TG has told them not to hit on the forecheck. They always go to tie the guy up and win a puck battle, but it's easy to pass out of with no repercussions.

I want them to make the playoffs too, but I also want them to grow a backbone and be a team. Not get pushed around and not allow the league to know before they play us what they can get away with.
- Codes1087

I would like to see them start to take charging, boarding and spearing penalties.

I want them to make the playoffs too, but I also want them to grow a backbone and be a team. Not get pushed around and not allow the league to know before they play us what they can get away with.
- Codes1087

TG needs to make adjustments and I think JB has got to make a statement. Having a healthy line up would drop some players to the minors.

Sending LE and Schaller to the minors and keeping Bailey and Zac Mac would save almost 500K on the cap.

I would like to see them start to take charging, boarding and spearing penalties.
- Marwood

100%

Nastiness is a forgotten concept that hasnt been with the canucks since kesler left. If virtanen crossed check gryzleck in the face after taking out petey for his dirty hit, I'd applaud him

TG needs to make adjustments and I think JB has got to make a statement. Having a healthy line up would drop some players to the minors.

Sending LE and Schaller to the minors and keeping Bailey and Zac Mac would save almost 500K on the cap.
- manvanfan

I wouldnt do it for the cost savings, that would just be a slight bonus, I'd strictly do it for the culture change

I wouldnt do it for the cost savings, that would just be a slight bonus, I'd strictly do it for the culture change
- Codes1087

Hard when your "energy guys" zap the team morale

Well If the people at lordH work say so it must be true lol
- Redmile247

lol don't worry I'll remind you when the Flames are out 1st or second round.

Hard when your "energy guys" zap the team morale
- NewYorkNuck

That's why I dont criticize lefty for wanting skilled players that also have snarl (wilson, kane, jamie benn, etc). They are a rare commodity these days. You're either an energy guy who can barely play or you're a skilled player and cant hit or fight lol.

MacKinnon in the playoffs is a beast ...Avs will win a cup eventually with this core
- Redmile247

I have AV's vs Caps in my work pool to make the final could even be this year.