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dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Feb 14 @ 11:50 AM ET
Do it Murray ... Carlyle got a 2nd go...

BBB....

No not Boobs / Beer / Babes...


Bring Bruce Back ...
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 14 @ 12:12 PM ET
Do it Murray ... Carlyle got a 2nd go...

BBB....

No not Boobs / Beer / Babes...


Bring Bruce Back ...

- dozerD10

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 14 @ 12:13 PM ET

- gergeswillems

squishy24
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.08.2019

Feb 14 @ 12:17 PM ET
hey botterill, the blues need a dman. couldn't offer Bogo for anything?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 12:19 PM ET
Any team needing a defenseman the Buffalo Sabres did you a favor.

The put a gently used Zach Bogosian on waivers today. HE IS FREE!

viperxt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 08.07.2011

Feb 14 @ 12:32 PM ET
I hope the Leafs do have serious interest in Josh Anderson. I have been saying the Leafs could use a guy like him. Clifford lessens the need somewhat but Anderson is more offensive when playing with the right guys
drew_doubty
Los Angeles Kings
Location: so know this...I am still talking to sources every day.
Joined: 06.25.2016

Feb 14 @ 12:39 PM ET
lol

touchy today.
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Feb 14 @ 12:46 PM ET
Eklunds source on Anderson to the leafs was Augello drunk texting him at the game last night... moron
- MeatTitan


I got the same text.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Feb 14 @ 1:24 PM ET
How many games should Chara be suspended for, oh that's right.
I forgot.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 14 @ 1:44 PM ET
All the rumored asks from the Sens regarding Pageau have been insane. It's great he's having a good year, but he's worth a 2nd rounder at best, straight up, not with any prospects. 3rd rounder + a good prospect would fair IMO.
- Rinosaur


says the fan of a team who just gave up a 1st and their top prospect for Zucker, who's essentially pageau but on the wing
mikeq672
Boston Bruins
Location: Auburn, MA
Joined: 06.29.2013

Feb 14 @ 1:47 PM ET
Pageau had a great month in november where he shot an obviously unsustainable 30%, hes been pretty mediocre offensively since then. What the hell do they expect in return?
mikeq672
Boston Bruins
Location: Auburn, MA
Joined: 06.29.2013

Feb 14 @ 1:50 PM ET
says the fan of a team who just gave up a 1st and their top prospect for Zucker, who's essentially pageau but on the wing
- sensarmy_11

And hes a guy who comes with multiple years of team control and a better track record offensively versus a guys who is an impending FA. Unlike you Ill spare you the condescending LOL and laughy face for your dumb comment.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
Pageau had a great month in november where he shot an obviously unsustainable 30%, hes been pretty mediocre offensively since then. What the hell do they expect in return?
- mikeq672


I think a conditional 1st or a 2nd and a prospect is reasonable.......not sure if that's what they're expecting, but it's what's fair.

had they traded him earlier, it would have likely been more, but agreed that he's cooled off a bit.

still, he's a 20+ goal center, who can play in all situations, against other teams top lines..........and he's by far the best center available.......supply and demand, and the fact that a ton of centers on playoffs teams are out medium to long term, could mean that there ends up being a bit of a bidding war, and someone overpays
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
says the fan of a team who just gave up a 1st and their top prospect for Zucker, who's essentially pageau but on the wing
- sensarmy_11

Pens didn't give up their top prospect.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 14 @ 1:56 PM ET
And hes a guy who comes with multiple years of team control and a better track record offensively versus a guys who is an impending FA. Unlike you Ill spare you the condescending LOL and laughy face for your dumb comment.
- mikeq672


a very slightly better track record offensively, yet wingers are usually worth less than centers (all things being equal).

I agree that term means he's worth more........but you can't argue that zucker is worth a 1st and a top prospect, while at the same time saying pageau is worth a 3rd and a medium level prospect.

being a UFA won't impact his value, it would just mean that some of the assets would be conditional.

if, as he claims, pageau is worth a 3rd and a medium prospect, then his team HILARIOUSLY overpaid for Zucker.

sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 14 @ 1:57 PM ET
Pens didn't give up their top prospect.
- gergeswillems


just about every single list I've seen either had him ranked #1 or #2 (most had him #1)
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 14 @ 2:00 PM ET
just about every single list I've seen either had him ranked #1 or #2 (most had him #1)
- sensarmy_11

Samuel Poulin is the Pens top prospect.
33eagle
Joined: 02.23.2015

Feb 14 @ 2:01 PM ET
Why would Tampa want Pageau? Nice player but where is the need? Loaded up front. If anything needs to be addressed it may be depth on defense.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:05 PM ET
Can anyone explain to me why everyone is so high on Josh Anderson?

I just don't see it.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 14 @ 2:11 PM ET
Samuel Poulin is the Pens top prospect.
- gergeswillems


says you.......I googled it, and about half of the "reputable publications/sites" had Addison ranked 1 and Poulin ranked 2.....but the ones that had poulin ranked 1 all had Addison ranked 2.

either way, it's splitting hairs......you gave up a 1st and one of your 2 top prospects for a 2nd or 3rd line winger
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 14 @ 2:18 PM ET
says you.......I googled it, and about half of the "reputable publications/sites" had Addison ranked 1 and Poulin ranked 2.....but the ones that had poulin ranked 1 all had Addison ranked 2.

either way, it's splitting hairs......you gave up a 1st and one of your 2 top prospects for a 2nd or 3rd line winger

- sensarmy_11

You have to give to get. Rutherford understands this. No one is going to do the Pens any favours. The Pens are a win now team and luckily for them, Crosby and Malkin have shown no signs of regressing. Addison may become a very good top 4 defenseman. Or he could be Olli Maata.

Rutherford knows what he's getting with Zucker. He's not a rental. They have him for 3 years. He's not too old. He'll step right into that lineup and produce. It was a good trade for both teams.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 14 @ 2:20 PM ET
You have to give to get. Rutherford understands this. No one is going to do the Pens any favours. The Pens are a win now team and luckily for them, Crosby and Malkin have shown no signs of regressing. Addison may become a very good top 4 defenseman. Or he could be Olli Maata.

Rutherford knows what he's getting with Zucker. He's not a rental. They have him for 3 years. He's not too old. He'll step right into that lineup and produce. It was a good trade for both teams.

- gergeswillems


my point was simply that Rinosaur can't say the zucker deal was good (which he did repeatedly on the pens blog) and turn around and say that pageau is worth a 3rd rd pick and prospect.

pageau will be worth less based on the term, no doubt......but it shouldn't be that big of a difference.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 14 @ 2:22 PM ET
my point was simply that Rinosaur can't say the zucker deal was good (which he did repeatedly on the pens blog) and turn around and say that pageau is worth a 3rd rd pick and prospect.

pageau will be worth less based on the term, no doubt......but it shouldn't be that big of a difference.

- sensarmy_11

Pageau will get a good return. Much more than a 3rd round pick and a prospect.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 14 @ 2:28 PM ET
Pageau will get a good return. Much more than a 3rd round pick and a prospect.
- gergeswillems

Lots of potential for some major regret with that one.

But GM's, for the most part, seem to have gotten smarter about not overpaying for rentals anymore since the playoffs are a crapshoot no matter what. A lot of the package will obviously depend on the level of prospect, but I don't think he's a "guaranteed 1st" kind of player.
turdadactyl
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.20.2007

Feb 14 @ 2:29 PM ET
Bogosian will be mysteriously absent from the morning skate tomorrow (e4).
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