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stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Feb 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
Well...I mean we over value him a bit. He can play spot duty in the top 4, but let's not crown him a Marc Methot. He is a 5-6 d man on every other team. Great depth player, but not the end of the world to trade. I think it's an ideal return
- AlexBoucher

now
Torontosensfan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.03.2019

Feb 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
maybe the positive is the Sens believe JBD will be In nhl next year?

next year RD options
zaitsev
bran (on weak side which he prefers)
JBD
jaros
resign boro (on weak side)
lassie?? doubtful but you never know
Jp11
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.16.2019

Feb 18 @ 2:55 PM ET
I know whats going on here. Melnyk is trying to sabotage the team so he can move them to a new arena in Miami. Little does he know WildThing and the other misfits will start winning and win the world series errrr stanley cup.
AlexBoucher
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.19.2017

Feb 18 @ 2:55 PM ET
Will have to respectfully disagree with this.

He fits comfortably into the top-four of most teams in the NHL, and has proven that he can sit next to a #1 without issue to help balance pairings. His underlying numbers are elite.

- Michael_Stuart


We are not competing anytime soon and this is a last place team- he wasn't the savior regardless of his fancy stats. A 3rd round pick for a UFA to be is perfectly reasonable
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 2:56 PM ET
I know whats going on here. Melnyk is trying to sabotage the team so he can move them to a new arena in Miami. Little does he know WildThing and the other misfits will start winning and win the world series errrr stanley cup.
- Jp11


Depends on how many touchdowns they can score from beyond the arc.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 2:57 PM ET
We are not competing anytime soon and this is a last place team- he wasn't the savior regardless of his fancy stats. A 3rd round pick for a UFA to be is perfectly reasonable
- AlexBoucher


As The Bible says, not all UFA's are created equal.
Trilla
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 06.02.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:57 PM ET
If this is how Dorion valued Demelo, I cant see a scenario where he makes out on any UFA.

He was arguably, our 2nd best trade chip.


AlexBoucher
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.19.2017

Feb 18 @ 3:03 PM ET
As The Bible says, not all UFA's are created equal.
- jmatchett383


And this certain UFA is overvalued by the fanbase- we didn't trade Thomas Chabot!
SensFan25
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Feb 18 @ 3:05 PM ET
I thought Demelo would have gotten us a 2020 second round pick or better. This is definitely a disappointment.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Feb 18 @ 3:06 PM ET
And this certain UFA is overvalued by the fanbase- we didn't trade Thomas Chabot!
- AlexBoucher


It's not just the fan base saying Ottawa got a bad return here.

https://twitter.com/Ineff...tatus/1229848756121743360

https://twitter.com/JFres...tatus/1229849475700658176
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 18 @ 3:07 PM ET
Demelo's not great but he's better than that.
Tom Dusome
Season Ticket Holder
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 18 @ 3:07 PM ET
Hey, these are some significant trades. This is the trend I guess. A week before the dead line. This week is going to be fun!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 3:07 PM ET
And this certain UFA is overvalued by the fanbase- we didn't trade Thomas Chabot!
- AlexBoucher


No, but based on recent trades, a 3rd for DeMelo is ridiculously cheap. Yeah, he's not going to be the difference between missing the playoffs or winning the cup, but he's a good 4/5 guy on a decent roster. They should have at least gotten a 2nd or had a prospect with some upside included.
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

Feb 18 @ 3:07 PM ET
What happened with Dubas on this one....must have slept in and missed the boat
- Leafcup



He borrowed an alarm clock from Josh Ho Sang and is still asleep
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Feb 18 @ 3:09 PM ET
No, but based on recent trades, a 3rd for DeMelo is ridiculously cheap. Yeah, he's not going to be the difference between missing the playoffs or winning the cup, but he's a good 4/5 guy on a decent roster. They should have at least gotten a 2nd or had a prospect with some upside included.
- jmatchett383


Trilla
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 06.02.2013

Feb 18 @ 3:09 PM ET
We are not competing anytime soon and this is a last place team- he wasn't the savior regardless of his fancy stats. A 3rd round pick for a UFA to be is perfectly reasonable
- AlexBoucher


Andy freakin Greene got a 2nd and a prospect.

He’s 37
And has a 5m cap hit.

How could you honestly justify this move?
Even in a draft like this, a 3rd rounder is as good as a 7th.

In a league where salaries are determined by how many points you put up..what could he seriously have costed you?

It’s a great sneak move by Chevy
AlexBoucher
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.19.2017

Feb 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
No, but based on recent trades, a 3rd for DeMelo is ridiculously cheap. Yeah, he's not going to be the difference between missing the playoffs or winning the cup, but he's a good 4/5 guy on a decent roster. They should have at least gotten a 2nd or had a prospect with some upside included.
- jmatchett383


He's the Kempny of 2020- who cost a 3rd round pick...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
Andy freakin Greene got a 2nd and a prospect.

He’s 37
And has a 5m cap hit.

How could you honestly justify this move?
Even in a draft like this, a 3rd rounder is as good as a 7th.

In a league where salaries are determined by how many points you put up..what could he seriously have costed you?

It’s a great sneak move by Chevy

- Trilla


All I can think is Dorion said, "(frank) it, I'm accepting the next trade call no matter what it is."

As soon as Chevy said, "Hey Pierre, what would you say to---," Dorion cut him off and said, "Fine, fax over the paperwork and I'll have my assistant sign it."

Makes as much sense as any other explanation.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 3:15 PM ET
He's the Kempny of 2020- who cost a 3rd round pick...
- AlexBoucher


I mean, if you think he got fair market value based on recent trades, then go you.
AlexBoucher
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.19.2017

Feb 18 @ 3:15 PM ET
Andy freakin Greene got a 2nd and a prospect.

He’s 37
And has a 5m cap hit.

How could you honestly justify this move?
Even in a draft like this, a 3rd rounder is as good as a 7th.

In a league where salaries are determined by how many points you put up..what could he seriously have costed you?

It’s a great sneak move by Chevy

- Trilla


I agree he is a good player, but I don't think he is more than a 5th- 6th dman on a good team. Greene has more miles, but his reputation probably has a lot to do with his value and the return. And a 3rd comparable to a 7th? I don't know...
AlexBoucher
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.19.2017

Feb 18 @ 3:17 PM ET
I mean, if you think he got fair market value based on recent trades, then go you.
- jmatchett383


I think he got fair market for sure- I think the issue is people overvalue him as a contributor
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 18 @ 3:19 PM ET
He's the Kempny of 2020- who cost a 3rd round pick...
- AlexBoucher

Which, when you look back on it, was Washington exploiting a gap in the market. We can also look at the Jensen trade from last year where Washington sent a 2nd and Bowey to Detroit for a worse player than Demelo.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
I think he got fair market for sure- I think the issue is people overvalue him as a contributor
- AlexBoucher


So you think 37-year-old Andy Greene is more valuable to a team right now than DeMelo?
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Feb 18 @ 3:23 PM ET
Is it possible that this trade was somehow linked to impending sale of the the team?

It's been impending for several years now according to Spatso so I'm not sure
spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

Feb 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
Peanuts are an integral part of watching any circus show....que the clowns.
Despite my negative joke directed at Dorion... i will see how the rest of this unfolds and what they will do with mega cap space... something or else were just spinning tires in the mud.

I am still giving them a chance until 2026
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