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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 21 @ 4:39 PM ET
I think the league would look at it as cap circumvention if they agree to rip up the contract the day after the signing bonus.
- belcherbd

We covered this yesterday/ old CBA. Nothing wrong with how loui’s contracted was structured. Other than the fact it’s a horrific contract
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 21 @ 4:40 PM ET
https://post.futurimedia.com/ckstam/playlist/10/listen-23055.html?cb=1582317087.218308

Right. Team wants muscle but they send Bailey to Utica and Zac Mac sits but Eriksson has 4 hits since he became a Canuck and he is in the top 6.

- manvanfan

I actually thought you might be serious about this so I had to look it up.

28 hits in 237 games for Van

2 years prior to joining the Canucks he had 29 in a single season for Boston
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Feb 21 @ 4:43 PM ET
https://post.futurimedia.com/ckstam/playlist/10/listen-23055.html?cb=1582317087.218308

Right. Team wants muscle but they send Bailey to Utica and Zac Mac sits but Eriksson has 4 hits since he became a Canuck and he is in the top 6.

- manvanfan


It is getting beyond ridiculous. Would rather even have Sutter on the second line and LE on the fourth if he HAS to play
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 21 @ 4:45 PM ET
I actually thought you might be serious about this so I had to look it up.

28 hits in 237 games for Van

2 years prior to joining the Canucks he had 29 in a single season for Boston

- NorthNuck

Vancouver makes people soft. Explains most of the fan base
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Feb 21 @ 4:45 PM ET
Trade Loui..........................GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Feb 21 @ 4:46 PM ET
We covered this yesterday/ old CBA. Nothing wrong with how loui’s contracted was structured. Other than the fact it’s a horrific contract
- CanuckDon


It’s unreal - even with multiple examples that it’s happening around the league - these jaded fawks just wont accept that that it could happen.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 21 @ 4:46 PM ET
I think the league would look at it as cap circumvention if they agree to rip up the contract the day after the signing bonus.
- belcherbd

As long as it is allowable under the current CBA we can't be penalized. It could become something that gets changed in the next CBA.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 21 @ 4:57 PM ET
Shane Wright has 60 points in 50 games as a 16 year old in the OHL this season.

Can Van start collecting 2022 first round picks now.

Byfield had 61 in 64 games last season as reference.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 21 @ 4:58 PM ET
It’s unreal - even with multiple examples that it’s happening around the league - these jaded fawks just wont accept that that it could happen.
- Brooks_Light

Yup, I mean, that one moron (belcher) even has a decapitated donkey as his avatar because he is wrong so often. Like WTF 🤷‍♂️
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 21 @ 4:58 PM ET
Shane Wright has 60 points in 50 games as a 16 year old in the OHL this season.

Can Van start collecting 2022 first round picks now.

- manvanfan

Next McDavid?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 21 @ 4:59 PM ET
Shane Wright has 60 points in 50 games as a 16 year old in the OHL this season.

Can Van start collecting 2022 first round picks now.

- manvanfan

Well apparently stecher is worth a second on these fanboy fan boards so I guess Tanev is worth 3 firsts?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 21 @ 5:02 PM ET
Vancouver makes people soft. Explains most of the fan base
- manvanfan

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:04 PM ET
Next McDavid?
- NorthNuck

Maybe a little early to tell. Looks really good though.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 21 @ 5:04 PM ET

- NorthNuck

Why can't we have this LE?
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Feb 21 @ 5:04 PM ET
Shane Wright has 60 points in 50 games as a 16 year old in the OHL this season.

Can Van start collecting 2022 first round picks now.

Byfield had 61 in 64 games last season as reference.

- manvanfan


I met that kid last summer - my buddy told me, keep an eye on this guy he’s gonna be dynamite.
34 goals in 50 games on a terrible Kingston team and he just turned 16 a month ago - unreal
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:04 PM ET
Well apparently stecher is worth a second on these fanboy fan boards so I guess Tanev is worth 3 firsts?
- CanuckDon

Half retained for a 4th round pick, i'd take it. Then a 3rd for Roussel. and a 5th for Beagle. JB's got all the picks he needs then.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:05 PM ET
I met that kid last summer - my buddy told me, keep an eye on this guy he’s gonna be dynamite.
34 goals in 50 games on a terrible Kingston team and he just turned 16 a month ago - unreal

- Brooks_Light

He reminds me of Tavares but the ability to skate.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 21 @ 5:05 PM ET
Why can't we have this LE?
- Retinalz

It really is crazy how his offense dropped off a cliff considering he still seems to be in game shape and hasn't suffered any major injuries.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:07 PM ET

- NorthNuck

Love that song.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 21 @ 5:11 PM ET
As long as it is allowable under the current CBA we can't be penalized. It could become something that gets changed in the next CBA.
- Retinalz


Luongo's contract was legal at the time it was signed, but Cap Recapture was invented by Bettman after the fact. They did this to punish teams that were getting cap relief from a tactic that hadn't been anticipated when the CBA in effect at the time was drawn up. These types of contracts were long so they were all still in effect when the new CBA started.

It's possible to early terminate Ericksson's contract and similar ones signed under the current CBA because they are not as long and not as much cap circumvention is possible. If there was something wrong with how his contract was structured he wouldn't be playing so, unfortunately, it's legal.

More fortunately Ericksson's contract will terminate when the current CBA also terminates so highly unlikely that the league could punish the Canucks retroactively for it if he and the team were to mutually terminate his contract after he collects his signing bonus this year.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
We covered this yesterday/ old CBA. Nothing wrong with how loui’s contracted was structured. Other than the fact it’s a horrific contract
- CanuckDon


I didn't say it was structured wrong, I said if a team mutually terminated a contract after paying a bonus, I believe the league would consider it circumvention.

The rules around circumvention are very generic and leave the league a lot of room to apply penalties if they feel it is occurring.

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
Half retained for a 4th round pick, i'd take it. Then a 3rd for Roussel. and a 5th for Beagle. JB's got all the picks he needs then.
- manvanfan

I want to keep Roussel. He needs time to regain his old form
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
It’s unreal - even with multiple examples that it’s happening around the league - these jaded fawks just wont accept that that it could happen.
- Brooks_Light


Show me an example..... of course it could happen, just like Luongo could of stayed on LTIR or decided to mutually void his contract or the league could of decided that they didn't want to punish retroactively.

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 21 @ 5:16 PM ET
I didn't say it was structured wrong, I said if a team mutually terminated a contract after paying a bonus, I believe the league would consider it circumvention.

The rules around circumvention are very generic and leave the league a lot of room to apply penalties if they feel it is occurring.

- belcherbd

Maybe they will send him down after the TDL after they can't offload him...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:18 PM ET
I want to keep Roussel. He needs time to regain his old form
- CanuckDon

Wasn't he epic playmaker last season playing with Horvat. Why not try that again. Anything can be better than LE with Horvat bringing him down.
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