What are we willing to give up for a bottom 6 center. Highest a 3rd.
- Peter Richards

Nothing

Vorobyov + Ginning + 2021 2nd for E. Staal @ 50%
- Bayareaflyer

Not even close to being a smart move

Not even close to being a smart move
- corduroy

Is this a real trade? I don’t see anything.

Please Flyers, don't do this.
- MJL

There is no way Minnesota would do that. Chuck would do that in a heartbeat.

Not even close to being a smart move
- corduroy

For Minnesota or for the Flyers?

There is no way Minnesota would do that. Chuck would do that in a heartbeat.
- bmeltzer

If Chuck would do that in a heartbeat, he should change his mind. It's too much.

So you're telling me if Fletcher gets on the phone and gets offered a deal during the carnival he likes, he's going to tell the other GM to call back after the carnival? They may wait to announce the deal but it's not going to stop a deal from happening.
- MJL

Do you really need things spelled out for you to the smallest detail. Cmon your smart enough to know that sure a agreement in principle may be had but nothing is going to the league office until after the carnival is over.
Once it goes to the the league then it’s punlic pretty much.
Yes, I can imagine Fletch telling another GM he will do as id move but with a organizational event can he agree to make it official after the event is over.
That’s all I’m saying.

There is no way Minnesota would do that. Chuck would do that in a heartbeat.
- bmeltzer

Chuck does remind me a lot like Bob Clarke when he was GM.

Chuck does remind me a lot like Bob Clarke when he was GM.
- SuperSchennBros

Please explain.

If Chuck would do that in a heartbeat, he should change his mind. It's too much.
- MJL

How so? Org is down on Vorobyev, Ginning is third-pair type prospect, a 2021 2nd rounder gives you plenty of time to replace that asset and this scenario has Wild retaining half of Staal. He is still productive and has only one contract year after this one. At 50% of his cap hit, it'd be hard to turn that down.

If Chuck would do that in a heartbeat, he should change his mind. It's too much.
- MJL

??

Do you really need things spelled out for you to the smallest detail. Cmon your smart enough to know that sure a agreement in principle may be had but nothing is going to the league office until after the carnival is over.
Once it goes to the the league then it’s punlic pretty much.
Yes, I can imagine Fletch telling another GM he will do as id move but with a organizational event can he agree to make it official after the event is over.
That’s all I’m saying.
- bird_dog_pa

You know there are two teams involved right? The carnival is not going to stop hockey business.

If Chuck would do that in a heartbeat, he should change his mind. It's too much.
- MJL

IMO you are vastly over rating Vorobyev and Ginning, both of who will probably never be NHL regulars let alone regulars with the Flyers.

Im with Bill on this one, Minnesota would laugh at that proposal even with 50% retained.

As rentals at center, I like Staal and Thornton. I don’t think Cousins is an upgrade, so I don’t like that. I know some sites say that the Flyers aren’t on Thornton’s list but he could change his mind.

On wing, I don’t think a rental makes sense. A trade for Kapanen just sounds difficult. I don’t see a lot I want to offer them that they would accept, even if it is fair. Friedman, Pitlick and a pick just might not be what they want.

Carter with the cost, term and cap would be really tricky and a little risky. Also the likelihood of getting a fair deal for Ghost seems slimmer with the recent injury.

How so? Org is down on Vorobyev, Ginning is third-pair type prospect, a 2021 2nd rounder gives you plenty of time to replace that asset and this scenario has Wild retaining half of Staal. He is still productive and has only one contract year after this one. At 50% of his cap hit, it'd be hard to turn that down.
- bmeltzer

He's 35. I think if Minnesota is going to retain salary, the price will go up. I wouldn't give up Ginning. He's a good defense prospect.

IMO you are vastly over rating Vorobyev and Ginning, both of who will probably never be NHL regulars let alone regulars with the Flyers.

Im with Bill on this one, Minnesota would laugh at that proposal even with 50% retained.
- MBFlyerfan

I'm not overrating Vorobyev at all. Including him in the deal does not give me any pause. I think Ginning is a solid defense prospect that the Flyers should keep.

I haven't made any comments on what Minnesota would do only that I don't want the Flyers to make that deal.

IMO you are vastly over rating Vorobyev and Ginning, both of who will probably never be NHL regulars let alone regulars with the Flyers.

Im with Bill on this one, Minnesota would laugh at that proposal even with 50% retained.
- MBFlyerfan

Is it gibbing or the second that scares you? For 50% retention through next year I don’t think it’s crazy. Voro is the throw in for this year roster spot. So prospect and pick for staal. Gibbing to me is 3 or 4 down the list for our d men prospects. Zamula and York ahead.

Would attard be better or just not willing to send a prospect and pick.

I'm not overrating Vorobyev at all. Including him in the deal does not give me any pause. I think Ginning is a solid defense prospect that the Flyers should keep.

I haven't made any comments on what Minnesota would do only that I don't want the Flyers to make that deal.
- MJL

Ignore above. Was answered why I was typing with my thumbs.

Vorobyov + Ginning + 2021 2nd for E. Staal @ 50%
- Bayareaflyer

The Wild would laugh on the phone at the offer.

If Minny actually somehow agreed to that I’m sure Fletcher would drive up to St. Paul to pick him up himself.

IMO you are vastly over rating Vorobyev and Ginning, both of who will probably never be NHL regulars let alone regulars with the Flyers.

Im with Bill on this one, Minnesota would laugh at that proposal even with 50% retained.
- MBFlyerfan

Gibbing has a good chance. Imo. Still young. Will never be a big star but I think he will make it to the nhl.

Ps. I hate auto correct.

You know there are two teams involved right? The carnival is not going to stop hockey business.
- MJL

That would be great in the middle of signing autographs a playing is asked how he feels about being traded.
Stop being a tool. GM’s for the flyers in the past have already said nothing will happen during the carnival.
I’m right your wrong end of story.

One time we need the pens to win and they cant

One time we need the pens to win and they cant
- bulet13

Why do they need to win? Tied in points with Washington.

That would be great in the middle of signing autographs a playing is asked how he feels about being traded.
Stop being a tool. GM’s for the flyers in the past have already said nothing will happen during the carnival.
I’m right your wrong end of story.
- bird_dog_pa

He would probably be devastated and his career would end.

Why do they need to win? Tied in points with Washington.
- Peter Richards

1. I think we match up with the caps much better and would rather face then in round 1

2. Pens have more games in hand