That he was drafted with a #2 pick.

Here is what I think and what factors into my overall opinion. The team is playing really well. People think this team has a shot. Maybe they're right about that. We'll see.

My overall thinking is that I see something special developing. The only reason they have any cap space now is because of players in LTIR. I think that the Flyers have a lot of youth in key spots and I think that will be exposed some in the playoffs. I think they'll be competitive but ultimately fall short and lose to a better team. I think adding a player at the deadline helps but how much will it actually elevate them.

Looking forward to next year, they gain a little bit of cap space, 500K or so losing the retained Gudas salary and the increase in the MacDonald buyout. The cap going up will add to available cap space. Are the Flyers going to make any moves in the off season?

As their younger players get better and better , the team will get better. To the point where they hopefully become legit contenders. At that point is when the Flyers should absolutely use top prospects and draft picks to bolster the team for Cup runs. The question is if that point is now. When a team gets to that point, they start to dwindle their prospect base. I think if you start doing that too soon, you make that situation worse and make it harder to keep a team together under the cap. You then have to overpay to fill holes. My thought is that it is premature to start trading for older veteran players. Remember, this is not just going to happen this season but most likely future seasons as well. It is cumulative.

I think the Flyers need to remain patient a little longer. However I fully admit that the possibility exists that Hart could get hot and they could make a run this year. My hunch though is that they won't. Those that disagree can take solace in the possibility that I very well could be wrong.
- MJL

But the longer you wait the older giroux and voracek get no?

I don’t disagree, as I said yesterday the Flyers still have a mini slump coming this season, we will have to see how They respond to that, all teams go through it and younger teams at crunch time have more to prove. Pens are going through it now, so are the Caps but we know they have the playoff tested teams to push through.

That said, losing Vorb and Ginning for Staal I would do, I do agree the group has earned the best chance to win.

My preference, Patrick comes back and they stand pat.
- wcorvette

When will the slump happen? I wasn't aware they are required to have one.

Moves are just moves. Being smart about things is not being scared. The Hextall comments are asinine.
- MJL

I’m not saying you, but the Hextall thing is very real. Trading one pick and one prospect for something that could make this team more formidable isn’t mortgaging the future.

Saying you won’t do anything (again not you) because they won’t win the Cup is stupid. Just get in and anyone can win.

But the longer you wait the older giroux and voracek get no?
- Lildots

That's true but I'm looking at a long term plan and creating a wide open window. If you want to make an argument that you have to go for it now because of the age of Giroux, I think that's a reasonable argument. I'm just playing what I think the odds are and I emphasize think, not know. The young players are what is truly going to elevate this team. Just can't rush that.

I’m not saying you, but the Hextall thing is very real. Trading one pick and one prospect for something that could make this team more formidable isn’t mortgaging the future.

Saying you won’t do anything (again not you) because they won’t win the Cup is stupid. Just get in and anyone can win.
- Flyers1218

No the Hextall thing and anyone bringing it up is nonsense.

Is it going to be a one time thing in trading a pick and prospect to go for it? Just this year. Won't do it next year or the following year? It's cumulative. The more youth you build up and top prospects you build up, the better you're able to sustain a team and keep it together. They're already up against the Cap. The only reason they have space to work with is due to injuries and players on LTIR.

When will the slump happen? I wasn't aware they are required to have one.
- jmatchett383

With 20 games left and a tight race, losing 2-3 in a row is a skid or losing 3 of 4. I hope they don’t but the likelihood of them losing 2 in a row is high before the end of the season

I would love to be wrong

Dont forget about Ersson
- bulet13

Yeah, more competition the better.

With 20 games left and a tight race, losing 2-3 in a row is a skid or losing 3 of 4. I hope they don’t but the likelihood of them losing 2 in a row is high before the end of the season

I would love to be wrong
- wcorvette

I wouldn't call that a slump. Maybe like 4 in a row or 4 out of 5. I think they'll be above 500 for the rest of the year but yes, they'll likely lose consecutive games at some pointm

I wouldn't call that a slump. Maybe like 4 in a row or 4 out of 5. I think they'll be above 500 for the rest of the year but yes, they'll likely lose consecutive games at some pointm
- jmatchett383

Usually true but with about 20 left and a tight race, losing 3 of 4 would be slump

I wouldn't call that a slump. Maybe like 4 in a row or 4 out of 5. I think they'll be above 500 for the rest of the year but yes, they'll likely lose consecutive games at some pointm
- jmatchett383

That's the thing. The Flyers have themselves in a real good position. They control their destiny. The Flyers are on a 7-3 run in their last 10. Other teams such as the Islanders have struggled somewhat. Carolina has goaltender injury issues. Things look good for the Flyers right now. However some teams below them have games in hand over the Flyers. If the Flyers go into a mini slump, they could find themselves back in a fight for a spot. It's still tight and the Flyers haven't locked up anything yet.

For Minnesota or for the Flyers?
- bmeltzer

Both. Why would Minnesota retain salary and take that return?

Why would the Flyers take on a 35-year-old center, who is position-dependent (the rangers tried him at wing when he was younger), who has term left? They make this move and they have next year Coots, Hayes, Laughton, Bunnaman and Stahl at center. What becomes of Frost? What happens with offseason moves when they are cap-strapped again.

That moves reeks of the Kubina trade or the Modry trade. The team needs to get younger, not older.

Both. Why would Minnesota retain salary and take that return?

Why would the Flyers take on a 35-year-old center, who is position-dependent (the rangers tried him at wing when he was younger), who has term left? They make this move and they have next year Coots, Hayes, Laughton, Bunnaman and Stahl at center. What becomes of Frost? What happens with offseason moves when they are cap-strapped again.

That moves reeks of the Kubina trade or the Modry trade. The team needs to get younger, not older.
- corduroy

I'll also add Patrick but who knows.

How do EK come up with all those half cooked fantasy rumors?! LSD or 🍄 🍄 🍄

Both. Why would Minnesota retain salary and take that return?

Why would the Flyers take on a 35-year-old center, who is position-dependent (the rangers tried him at wing when he was younger), who has term left? They make this move and they have next year Coots, Hayes, Laughton, Bunnaman and Stahl at center. What becomes of Frost? What happens with offseason moves when they are cap-strapped again.

That moves reeks of the Kubina trade or the Modry trade. The team needs to get younger, not older.
- corduroy

It's a myopic trade, for sure.

If you have any confidence in NP and Frost, you don't make that kind of move.

It's a myopic trade, for sure.

If you have any confidence in NP and Frost, you don't make that kind of move.
- Tomahawk

We have to win now! We can't throw the season away!

Don't be sacred and get Hextall-ized. Don't drink the Hextall kool aid.

We have to win now! We can't throw the season away!

Don't be sacred and get Hextall-ized. Don't drink the Hextall kool aid.
- MJL

Flyers going to stand Pat like under the Hex 15 year rebuild plan.

But the longer you wait the older and slower giroux and voracek get no? Voracek can’t hit a barn with his 💩 ass shot
- Lildots

🎯

With very little Cap space, I don't expect Fletcher to make any any moves at the trade deadline? Ghost won't be traded bc his trade value is at all time low after coming off surgery, plus If he gets traded that means Friedman is our 7th D-man going into the playoffs, with not much other help from LHV in case of an injury on defense. If a forward gets injured, then we still have some rookies in LHV that have actually played NHL games ( Kase, Twarynski, Andreoff to name a few ). I like the chemistry the Flyers have now and AV rolls 4 lines every game, unlike Hakstol, who would burn out our first two lines during a playoff push...

Continuing to conduct hockey business during the Flyers wives carnival would not make them a classless organization. It's a simple process of pulling the player aside so he can be informed that a move was made and he has been traded. A transaction is not official until the trade call is made at the NHL offices. A team could change their mind on a deal if they find a better deal. That is why your premise is incorrect. The team takes priority.
- MJL

Spin as you must! Flyers GM’s have said on the record that there will not be trades during an event such as the ome today. Try and defend your position because your always right but we all know you’re wrong.

I’m not worried about your dissent and have defended your arguments in the past. Just stop talking your wrong move on.

How do EK come up with all those half cooked fantasy rumors?! LSD or 🍄 🍄 🍄
- Landsbergfan

you paid for the season ticket

With very little Cap space, I don't expect Fletcher to make any any moves at the trade deadline? Ghost won't be traded bc his trade value is at all time low after coming off surgery, plus If he gets traded that means Friedman is our 7th D-man going into the playoffs, with not much other help from LHV in case of an injury on defense. If a forward gets injured, then we still have some rookies in LHV that have actually played NHL games ( Kase, Twarynski, Andreoff to name a few ). I like the chemistry the Flyers have now and AV rolls 4 lines every game, unlike Hakstol, who would burn out our first two lines during a playoff push...
- Thors-Hammer

Coaches have to burn out the first two lines when that's all they have. I love when comparisons like that are made as if the roster both coaches had were equal.

We have to win now! We can't throw the season away!

Don't be sacred and get Hextall-ized. Don't drink the Hextall kool aid.
- MJL

Same poop different day in here. At least guys are consistent. I’m sure that other lunatic will be here shortly.

People are allowed to have a different view point then you. I don’t think you’re wrong because you don’t want to trade. But a good majority feels differently then you and it wouldn’t kill you to at least understand that.

You’re a pretty smart dude, but you have zero humility.

If you must then your sense is not so common. It’s ok for you to move on.
If you wish to keep defending history that shows you’re argument is invalid then ok.
I have no problem telling you your wrong all day long.

Simmonds to the flyers according to ShrEK. Discuss this rumor!

Only what one trade so far today.