Drapz
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Location: Windsor, ON Joined: 07.10.2007
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The funniest thing of all is the people saying the Shanny era team is hopeless now. That's really, really hilarious poop. - Zezel
2 races going on. Florida vs Toronto and Boston vs Tampa. It looks like all 4 of these teams are trying to lose! |
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Zezel
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Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Funny thing is, Babs wasn’t the problem. I think most knew.
The players hated him though. You can see extra spring in MM and AM’s step in particular.
Keefe rode them out for sometime and they are back to earth.
I’m not convinced Dubas and Keefe will take us to the promised land. Not while you trade away all of your picks to build a mediocre, no heat, skill only team. - gamerdoc
Babs being a problem isn't invalidated by anything else that's followed imo. |
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Leafs43
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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They overpaid their rfa's and couldn't add enough good depth.
It is exactly the same. - Tumbleweed
William Nylander is overpaid? |
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ghetto puck
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Location: Wah gwaan? Joined: 10.25.2007
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what i would do from here is trade the ufas, keeping only clifford and muzzin if they sign team friendly deals clifford 3 years or less muzzin 4 years or less at good numbers or comparable to their current cap hits.
that means trading spezza and barrie whatever the return, if you can parlay them into defensive team upgrades or prospects and picks. trade ceci if they can.
from there i would listen to offers for kap, johnsson, kerfoot, dermott, holl, gauthier and then marlie guys like marincin, petan, schmaltz, gravel, hutch, kaskisuo, aberg, gaudet, kossila, wilson, agostino if there's interest.
as far as the main roster, i would move tavares to left wing and put nylander at centre like he wanted. also flip hyman to right wing, time to jumble everything up until the end of the season comes if you make the playoffs great if you don't you don't. 1st round pick was traded to carolina in the deal for marleau and is top ten protected, would be a shame if the leafs ended up picking 11-20 and carolina gets to make that pick.
tavares-matthews-hyman
engvall-nylander-marner
clifford-kerfoot-kapanen
wilson-malgin-bracco (possibly aberg)
scratches - gauthier, agostino (flip flops with garrett wilson, more effective player plays)
leafs need to acquire another solid left hand shooting left winger who can score goals and play hard on the puck and opposing players. would be nice if he had some size and was defensively responsible as well.
send sandin and liljegren down, both guys are not ready or maybe aren't good enough.
marincin traded or waived.
maybe sign bogosian 1 year league minimum.
rielly will return to top pair upon return, gravel or dermott will then sit, the better playing guy will play on the 3rd pair)
dermott-bogosian
muzzin-schmaltz
gravel-holl
might consider trading andersen if the return is really sweet and nets the leafs an excellent defenseman in addition to a solid back up goalie for campbell as starter.
andersen
campbell
if this is successful you keep rolling it out or you keep pulling names out of a hat with the lines until you find something that works or the season ends and you end up wherever you end up and you ride out the season like that. |
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gamerdoc
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Joined: 02.06.2019
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I find the "blow it up" talk funny. It's been 4 (frank)ing years. Give it time. - Aaron_85
Long term plan requires draft picks and prospects. Dubas is clearly not looking at long term plan. He’s thinking short term survival. |
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So much fun watching that game last night. Thanks Leafs! |
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aminnes
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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what i would do from here is trade the ufas, keeping only clifford and muzzin if they sign team friendly deals clifford 3 years or less muzzin 4 years or less at good numbers or comparable to their current cap hits.
that means trading spezza and barrie whatever the return, if you can parlay them into defensive team upgrades or prospects and picks. trade ceci if they can.
from there i would listen to offers for kap, johnsson, kerfoot, dermott, holl, gauthier and then marlie guys like marincin, petan, schmaltz, gravel, hutch, kaskisuo, aberg, gaudet, kossila, wilson, agostino if there's interest.
as far as the main roster, i would move tavares to left wing and put nylander at centre like he wanted. also flip hyman to right wing, time to jumble everything up until the end of the season comes if you make the playoffs great if you don't you don't. 1st round pick was traded to carolina in the deal for marleau and is top ten protected, would be a shame if the leafs ended up picking 11-20 and carolina gets to make that pick.
tavares-matthews-hyman
engvall-nylander-marner
clifford-kerfoot-kapanen
wilson-malgin-bracco (possibly aberg)
scratches - gauthier, agostino (flip flops with garrett wilson, more effective player plays)
leafs need to acquire another solid left hand shooting left winger who can score goals and play hard on the puck and opposing players. would be nice if he had some size and was defensively responsible as well.
send sandin and liljegren down, both guys are not ready or maybe aren't good enough.
marincin traded or waived.
maybe sign bogosian 1 year league minimum.
rielly will return to top pair upon return, gravel or dermott will then sit, the better playing guy will play on the 3rd pair)
dermott-bogosian
muzzin-schmaltz
gravel-holl
might consider trading andersen if the return is really sweet and nets the leafs an excellent defenseman in addition to a solid back up goalie for campbell as starter.
andersen
campbell
if this is successful you keep rolling it out or you keep pulling names out of a hat with the lines until you find something that works or the season ends and you end up wherever you end up and you ride out the season like that. - ghetto puck
Muzzin and Clifford will wait to resign until after the deadline and then they will have more leverage. |
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ghetto puck
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Location: Wah gwaan? Joined: 10.25.2007
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Predictions for the final 20? I'm betting they don't recover from this:
6-12-2 finish. - mcleafs
they have 19 games left and i think they are just good enough to go 9 & 10 or 10 & 9 with a couple overtime points sprinkled in there. |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Are people overrating Clifford because we need "Grit"? He looks pretty poopty. No way do you give him a 3 year deal. |
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Zezel
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Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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2 races going on. Florida vs Toronto and Boston vs Tampa. It looks like all 4 of these teams are trying to lose! - Drapz
And I mean in the long term too.
People seem to forget both Tampa and Boston have each missed the playoffs in their current eras. We all know what happened to Tampa last year. That's the whole point of building through drafting and developing, it's a multiyear process with ups and downs. |
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BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore Joined: 10.29.2007
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Glad to see people are finally seeing the flaws in this team. - Fakepartofme
obviously... the Leafs only had what 24 shots on goal... its Andersen's fault.
and Lliljegren
but don't worry Tyson Barrie will turn into Bobby Orr over night, and the new Tyson Barrie combined with Salomaki will turn the ship around.
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Leafs43
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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what i would do from here is trade the ufas, keeping only clifford and muzzin if they sign team friendly deals clifford 3 years or less muzzin 4 years or less at good numbers or comparable to their current cap hits.
that means trading spezza and barrie whatever the return, if you can parlay them into defensive team upgrades or prospects and picks. trade ceci if they can.
from there i would listen to offers for kap, johnsson, kerfoot, dermott, holl, gauthier and then marlie guys like marincin, petan, schmaltz, gravel, hutch, kaskisuo, aberg, gaudet, kossila, wilson, agostino if there's interest.
as far as the main roster, i would move tavares to left wing and put nylander at centre like he wanted. also flip hyman to right wing, time to jumble everything up until the end of the season comes if you make the playoffs great if you don't you don't. 1st round pick was traded to carolina in the deal for marleau and is top ten protected, would be a shame if the leafs ended up picking 11-20 and carolina gets to make that pick.
tavares-matthews-hyman
engvall-nylander-marner
clifford-kerfoot-kapanen
wilson-malgin-bracco (possibly aberg)
scratches - gauthier, agostino (flip flops with garrett wilson, more effective player plays)
leafs need to acquire another solid left hand shooting left winger who can score goals and play hard on the puck and opposing players. would be nice if he had some size and was defensively responsible as well.
send sandin and liljegren down, both guys are not ready or maybe aren't good enough.
marincin traded or waived.
maybe sign bogosian 1 year league minimum.
rielly will return to top pair upon return, gravel or dermott will then sit, the better playing guy will play on the 3rd pair)
dermott-bogosian
muzzin-schmaltz
gravel-holl
might consider trading andersen if the return is really sweet and nets the leafs an excellent defenseman in addition to a solid back up goalie for campbell as starter.
andersen
campbell
if this is successful you keep rolling it out or you keep pulling names out of a hat with the lines until you find something that works or the season ends and you end up wherever you end up and you ride out the season like that. - ghetto puck
Only got through about 1/2 of this word salad.
But thank (frank) people like you aren't running the team.
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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I'm going to enjoy things when game 82 ends and Leafs are in the playoffs and Islanders are not. |
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gamerdoc
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Joined: 02.06.2019
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And I mean in the long term too.
People seem to forget both Tampa and Boston have each missed the playoffs in their current eras. We all know what happened to Tampa last year. That's the whole point of building through drafting and developing, it's a multiyear process with ups and downs. - Zezel
Except, dubas is trading away most of high picks nowadays
He’s not looking at long term plan. He is trying to survive beyond this year and next. |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Toronto fans are so melodramatic |
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kkvslayer
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Location: This Game is Under Regional Blackout, NT Joined: 06.14.2019
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I'm going to enjoy things when game 82 ends and Leafs are in the playoffs and Islanders are not. - RogerRoeper
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gamerdoc
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Joined: 02.06.2019
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I'm going to enjoy things when game 82 ends and Leafs are in the playoffs and Islanders are not. - RogerRoeper
I would argue missing P.O. is better than getting embarrassed in the 1st round for this team in the long run. |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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I would argue missing P.O. is better than getting embarrassed in the 1st round for this team in the long run. - gamerdoc
I won't ansd I believe they can win the 1st round. |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Less drama on 90 day fiance |
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Zezel
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Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Except, dubas is trading away most of high picks nowadays - gamerdoc
Well, the point is they have a bunch of extremely high picks playing on their roster. I agree they should try to not deplete more picks going forward, but the pick trading they have done is very, very different from Leaf regimes in the past.
It's common for teams to be more likely to trade picks after they already have a bunch of high draft pick players in the fold. They aren't doing a Burkie by any means. |
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aminnes
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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Except, dubas is trading away most of high picks nowadays
He’s not looking at long term plan. He is trying to survive beyond this year and next. - gamerdoc
Exactly. And the AM window has 4 years now. He is clearly not looking at this as a long term thing, but his strategy to put a winner on the ice now has resulted in the type of team that isn't a contender. |
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ghetto puck
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Location: Wah gwaan? Joined: 10.25.2007
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The thing you are missing is RNH hasn't been a disappointment because of $, he was an extremely weak 1st overall player. Matthews is in another universe.
All 1st overalls are not the same - RogerRoeper
matthews is quickly becoming a more productive and skilled toronto era phil kessel. |
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BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore Joined: 10.29.2007
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unfortunately i think mlse will have to fire david ayres, how can you have him hanging around the team now as they have become the laughing stock of the league because of him? he will be a constant reminder that they lost to a beer leaguer 42 year old zamboni driving marlies practice roster goalie. he cannot be around the team anymore for the foreseeable future, maybe he can come back when all of this blows over or the roster has changed significantly.
AND if in the event the leaf team as whole decided to go easy on him because they know him, like him and wanted him to get the win, they should be ashamed of themselves because people pay a lot of money to watch them and points at this stage of the season are vital to your playoff chances. this is your job, fun time was over when you got your fat contracts, show some pride. - ghetto puck
Ayres didn't make the Leafs a laughing stock... they did that all on there own. |
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underhill14
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Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool Joined: 06.02.2010
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Ah yes. The elusive "heart" players. (frank)ing shoot me if we start trading away our best players for David Clarkson types.
We need our players to give a poop more...Not piss them all away for scrappy/talentless hacks. - Leafs43
Obviously not David Clarkson or talentless hacks...not sure if you're being snitty but if you are fu3k off...
But if you're not being a douche, how does one go about getting the bolded to happen??? I am extremely interested in your answer.
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