60 goals, 100 points isn't elite? He's also 3rd in takeaways in the NHL
- RogerRoeper

Your first statement referred to our "players". You are defending that by using ONE player, our best player. What about the rest of the guys?

Matthews is on pace to be 11th in the league is scoring at 56g/95pts. That pace would have had him 11th last year also.

If top 11 is your definition of "elite" then great, it still doesn't make your statement reasonable.

I like that.. Matthews/Marner/Tavares/Nylander needed to be benched in the last 5 minutes of the game.. They were not doing anything.. Just missed passes, toe picks and turnovers.
- PatC80

Marner to Avs for Byram, Kaut, 2020 1st

I'll save you a chair for our cup parade in 2024.
- Scabeh

We'll be hoping to replace Matthews with our #1 overall pick.

Touched his soul so hard that he's created a temporal rift where roger can hear the thoughts of islanders fans hating Lou.
- AdamFrench

It’s killing him slowly.

Your first statement referred to our "players". You are defending that by using ONE player, our best player. What about the rest of the guys?

Matthews is on pace to be 11th in the league is scoring at 56g/95pts. That pace would have had him 11th last year also.

If top 11 is your definition of "elite" then great, it still doesn't make your statement reasonable.
- Aetherial

Has Roger ever had a reasonable statement?

As bad as Andersen was during that game, there was a golden opportunity to score 10 to 12 goals on a team using a 42 year old zamboni driver for the last half of the game. Two of three shots directed at the net in the second period went in! A couple of slow dribblers towards the net would have been fine. The problem was the Leafs as a team were unwilling and unable to float a few towards the net. Didn't need the Harlem Globetrotters making highlight reel passes. Needed a curling rock shovelled towards the net and then have a couple of guys sweeping
- winsix

Andersen wasnt that bad. 1 goal was bad.

Keefe acknowledged it after the game. Paraphrasing here, but he said "we lost before the goalie switch to Ayres"
- PatC80

I’m not blaming what I’m about to say on the loss because I know people like to say that after criticism over a player.

But Dermott scoring on his own net isn’t talked enough in that game. The new goalie just comes in down by 2...and Dermott puts the puck in his own (frank)ing net.

Talk about a momentum killer.

Andersen wasnt that bad. 1 goal was bad.
- Fakepartofme

He was bad like the rest of the team.

If anyone deserves the “not that bad” label that game it was Kap.

Your first statement referred to our "players". You are defending that by using ONE player, our best player. What about the rest of the guys?

Matthews is on pace to be 11th in the league is scoring at 56g/95pts. That pace would have had him 11th last year also.

If top 11 is your definition of "elite" then great, it still doesn't make your statement reasonable.
- Aetherial

Seeing as he’s the top paid guy in the NHL

Still love him though

*hugs Matthews doll*

Some of these posters need to back off the ledge, others need to be thrown off the freaking ledge.
- willdjr75

LOL
Welcome to Leafs HB

Bring Lou Back!
- RogerRoeper

I think you and UG should just go argue stuff. You seem to the same person, with the polar opposite opinion.

Marner to Avs for Byram, Kaut, 2020 1st
- Steven_Seagull

There is a huge section of Leafs Twitter that wants Marner traded.. The toe-pick was the last straw apparently.

Your first statement referred to our "players". You are defending that by using ONE player, our best player. What about the rest of the guys?

Matthews is on pace to be 11th in the league is scoring at 56g/95pts. That pace would have had him 11th last year also.

If top 11 is your definition of "elite" then great, it still doesn't make your statement reasonable.
- Aetherial

56 goals is elite. No one has scored that in almosta deacde

Andersen wasnt that bad. 1 goal was bad.
- Fakepartofme

Don’t bother Fake, it’ll be a long day.

Seeing as he’s the top paid guy in the NHL

Still love him though

*hugs Matthews doll*
- Garnie

He's not.

LOL
Welcome to Leafs HB
- Fakepartofme

I've been around for a while, just like to lurk

Seeing as he’s the top paid guy in the NHL

Still love him though

*hugs Matthews doll*
- Garnie

3rd highest in cap hit. I don’t think he’s even top-10 in cap hit percentage.


He’s worth every penny.



Trade Mitch Marner, please.

56 goals is elite. No one has scored that in almosta deacde
- RogerRoeper

Let’s get him there 1st, don’t Leafs in 6 him.

We all want to see him score, not just you.

I agree with this. The point is that the superstars aren't executing like superstars. Matthews has been elite.

At 5v5, Tavares is -6 in goal differential; Marner is -5. If we want to throw his name into the mix, Nylander is +4. Again, in much the same situations, Hyman is +3.

Matthews, as noted, is +17.

We need more out of Tavares and Marner in particular, and to be honest, Nylander, too.

Any +/- metric has it's limitations, but again when compared to the team as a whole, particularly when you have an idea of the level of competition faced, it gives you a decent picture: Marner and Tavares are not executing at the level they are expected to execute at.
- Monkeypunk

It is a combination of a lot of things it seems. The stars are not producing up to expectations, and the fact that we have so much tied up at the top end means that we had to go with a lot of cheap and entry level talent everywhere else. On top of that, goaltending has been poor and injuries have been a problem.

It's not exactly the season we had all hoped for

3rd highest in cap hit. I don’t think he’s even top-10 in cap hit percentage.


He’s worth every penny.



Trade Mitch Marner, please.
- Steven_Seagull

Can I be traded? Just not to the sens of habs

I’m not blaming what I’m about to say on the loss because I know people like to say that after criticism over a player.

But Dermott scoring on his own net isn’t talked enough in that game. The new goalie just comes in down by 2...and Dermott puts the puck in his own (frank)ing net.

Talk about a momentum killer.
- Santo_44

Oh for sure, that was a momentum killer, lucky bounces happen in games.. What was frustrating to me, and maybe it's because they felt bad for Ayres, but they refused to just shoot the puck. Shoot from anywhere.. There is no need to look for a perfect play.

Carolina played great in the 3rd, but I wish the Leafs upon entering the zone would put the puck on net and storm the crease..

He was bad like the rest of the team.

If anyone deserves the “not that bad” label that game it was Kap.
- Santo_44

He wasnt as bad the rest of the team, he was just ok. 1 bad goal, one goal by a teammate.
The rest of the team wasnt anywhere close to ok.
They were embarrassing.

But it matters not, I didnt expect the team to replicate that game against the pens. I figured they'd lose saturday night.....until the zamboni driver got in the pipes....then I thought they would win and it would be a nothing game.

Instead its made them the laughing stock of the league...again.

He's not.
- RogerRoeper

2nd to McD? My bad....but for only 5 years to his 8.


So, I call him the highest paid.

Don’t care if I’m off a bit

Don’t bother Fake, it’ll be a long day.
- Garnie

Ya I know.
Its so sad.

3rd highest in cap hit. I don’t think he’s even top-10 in cap hit percentage.


He’s worth every penny.



Trade Mitch Marner, please.
- Steven_Seagull

I assume you mean percentage as of when he was signed?

They don't need to trade Marner.