Yeah.... Rust is a better at RW. I'd be inclined to move Rust up with Sid and Zucker for a look. Maybe Kahun, Geno, Hornie. Simon needs to be dropped out of the top 6 for now.
- madmike71

Me and Feds been saying faceoffs don’t matter for years. Everyone finally coming around to it? lol
- j.boyd919

Not me.

Me and Feds been saying faceoffs don’t matter for years. Everyone finally coming around to it? lol
- j.boyd919

?? ... That stat is literally illustrating faceoffs are important

?? ... That stat is literally illustrating faceoffs are important
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Exactly. Pens are the outliers, not the rule. It can be done, but it is uncommon.

Also, stats people consider possession as the holy grail. Well, what one thing leads to possession a lot more often than not?

And he's about 3/4 at best the player Guentzel is. So if that was the big "get," then just sit this year out.
- Hockey66

Dumo is coming off major surgery, hasn't played in a long time, and might be mediocre at best the remainder of the season and playoffs. Marino is a 22 year old rookie. I'm not putting a lot of stock in either to come through in the playoffs. The left side is still very shaky even if Dumo comes back good but not great which is about the best that can be hoped for.
- Hockey66

If you believe all that and that the Pens have so many glaring holes then there's no move the Pens can make that puts them over the top. There isn't a player on the market and if there was another team with better assets would outbid us. And if among your chief concerns are Guentzel and Dumoulin's injury status (which I agree with) and Marino being a rookie, those are this year only problems so don't blow all your assets on this year.

Zucker isn't Guentzel, but that was a big move that cost their top pick and prospect. I'm sure GMJR will trade the 2021 1st when the time is right, but don't get too upset if that isn't today, he's made his big move.

If you believe all that and that the Pens have so many glaring holes then there's no move the Pens can make that puts them over the top. There isn't a player on the market and if there was another team with better assets would outbid us. And if among your chief concerns are Guentzel and Dumoulin's injury status (which I agree with) and Marino being a rookie, those are this year only problems so don't blow all your assets on this year.

Zucker isn't Guentzel, but that was a big move that cost their top pick and prospect. I'm sure GMJR will trade the 2021 1st when the time is right, but don't get too upset if that isn't today, he's made his big move.
- Tojo.

I don't believe this to be true. I think there are a lot of players out there who could be had, not just the same names that keep getting recycled. I've thrown out Suter. He's a difference-maker, but there aren't many teams that would want to take on that contract (for good reason). The Pens are somewhat unique with their "window." I'm sure there are other such players out there who fit this bill. Someone threw out Subban and if he was a LD, he would be another good example.

JR just needs to be creative and find a difference-maker on a bad / expensive contract for lesser assets. We might also be able to unload contracts like JJ and Bjug since they are relatively low cost and in the case of Bjug short duration. Yandle? Vlasic? Keith? Zucc? Getzlaf? Skinner? I don't think other teams will be clamoring for those contracts. Just some names of good players on bad contracts that teams might want to move for something before they become worthless or toxic.

Also, we have all our important draft picks after this year and 3 good prospects. We have plenty of ammo for moves this year and next year. Go big or go home. Trade away all draft picks during the window for all I care.

It's DK so take it fwiw:

Has heard interest, but not confirmed:
-Domi (supposedly on the block)
-AA
-E.Staal

Would trade Poulin or Legare in a heartbeat for Domi if the Pens are able to move out JJ's salary next year to retain him. I know JR said he wouldn't move either prospect, but for a 24 year old, maybe?

Staal would be a HUGE yes. Him centering the third line would be amazing and obviously allowing Simon, Horn and Bjug to rotate around the lineup.

AA is a player I've soured on, but would still be willing at a reasonable cost.

Me and Feds been saying faceoffs don’t matter for years. Everyone finally coming around to it? lol
- j.boyd919

Hey, I've been vocally on that train for a looong time.

Isn't he better at RW? I'm pretty sure Zucker is better at LW and seems to be set on Sid's line. I've heard different things about where Kahun plays best, but he is the other legit top 6 winger to consider.
- Hockey66

Yea sorry I meant RW haha

It's DK so take it fwiw:

Has heard interest, but not confirmed:
-Domi (supposedly on the block)
-AA
-E.Staal

Would trade Poulin or Legare in a heartbeat for Domi if the Pens are able to move out JJ's salary next year to retain him. I know JR said he wouldn't move either prospect, but for a 24 year old, maybe?

Staal would be a HUGE yes. Him centering the third line would be amazing and obviously allowing Simon, Horn and Bjug to rotate around the lineup.

AA is a player I've soured on, but would still be willing at a reasonable cost.
- Rinosaur

Eric Staal, I sure hope so haha

It's DK so take it fwiw:

Has heard interest, but not confirmed:
-Domi (supposedly on the block)
-AA
-E.Staal

Would trade Poulin or Legare in a heartbeat for Domi if the Pens are able to move out JJ's salary next year to retain him. I know JR said he wouldn't move either prospect, but for a 24 year old, maybe?

Staal would be a HUGE yes. Him centering the third line would be amazing and obviously allowing Simon, Horn and Bjug to rotate around the lineup.

AA is a player I've soured on, but would still be willing at a reasonable cost.
- Rinosaur

I think Domi would be the best fit. He would add a toughness that the Pens are missing. Staal would be great for the third line and he can still kill penalties. Has anyone heard any news on Bgujstad?

I think Domi would be the best fit. He would add a toughness that the Pens are missing. Staal would be great for the third line and he can still kill penalties. Has anyone heard any news on Bgujstad?
- nateca44

He came on the trip and has been doing his own workouts is all I've heard.

It's DK so take it fwiw:

Has heard interest, but not confirmed:
-Domi (supposedly on the block)
-AA
-E.Staal

Would trade Poulin or Legare in a heartbeat for Domi if the Pens are able to move out JJ's salary next year to retain him. I know JR said he wouldn't move either prospect, but for a 24 year old, maybe?

Staal would be a HUGE yes. Him centering the third line would be amazing and obviously allowing Simon, Horn and Bjug to rotate around the lineup.

AA is a player I've soured on, but would still be willing at a reasonable cost.
- Rinosaur

Just read that myself lol. I think 3rd line center is the priority. I think moving the bluegar line to the 4th line would allow us to have 4 solid lines. I still feel Pageau would be a great fit (which someone also mentioned previously).

I love max Domi, but I don't think he is used much currently on the PK, but I could be wrong. I also love Jumbo Joe, because he could bring instant offense to our bottom 6, but he is the same as Domi. I don't think he plays much on the PK. I think we need someone who can not only drive offense, but someone who could also play on the PK (which I feel Pageau, Namestnikov and even Staal fit that bill).

Just read that myself lol. I think 3rd line center is the priority. I think moving the bluegar line to the 4th line would allow us to have 4 solid lines. I still feel Pageau would be a great fit (which someone also mentioned previously).

I love max Domi, but I don't think he is used much currently on the PK, but I could be wrong. I also love Jumbo Joe, because he could bring instant offense to our bottom 6, but he is the same as Domi. I don't think he plays much on the PK. I think we need someone who can not only drive offense, but someone who could also play on the PK (which I feel Pageau, Namestnikov and even Staal fit that bill).
- 123Kid

Wouldn't Staal be our guy then haha? I think that would be our best pickup. He's still a 20/30 guy.

Wouldn't Staal be our guy then haha? I think that would be our best pickup. He's still a 20/30 guy.
- 668710

I agree. I've been wanting the Pens to get Staal for a while now. Pageau or Domi would be great, too. Those are the kind of difference-makers we should be targeting, IMO. Still think LD is a priority, though, but I won't complain if one of these three becomes a Pen. Hard pass on Thornton and AA.

I agree. I've been wanting the Pens to get Staal for a while now. Pageau or Domi would be great, too. Those are the kind of difference-makers we should be targeting, IMO. Still think LD is a priority, though, but I won't complain if one of these three becomes a Pen. Hard pass on Thornton and AA.
- Hockey66

Over the years Ruth has always been concerned with the defense and having depth, it makes me think that Dumo and Marino truly will be ok. But I def understand your concern, I guess we'll find out haha.

Over the years Ruth has always been concerned with the defense and having depth, it makes me think that Dumo and Marino truly will be ok. But I def understand your concern, I guess we'll find out haha.
- 668710

There's definitely been no shortage of depth defensemen.

I can see the logic of wanting to shore up an actual hole instead of what might be a hole. In that case, forget LD or C and go get a 1/2RW and send Simon back to the bottom six where he belongs.

Still gonna dream about Suter next to Letang, though.

Wouldn't Staal be our guy then haha? I think that would be our best pickup. He's still a 20/30 guy.
- 668710

Yeah he checks most boxes. I would be happy if we traded for him

Yeah he checks most boxes. I would be happy if we traded for him
- 123Kid

Jumbo and Marleau possibly headed this way...

Lebrun saying Pens have interest in Marleau

It's DK so take it fwiw:

Has heard interest, but not confirmed:
-Domi (supposedly on the block)
-AA
-E.Staal

Would trade Poulin or Legare in a heartbeat for Domi if the Pens are able to move out JJ's salary next year to retain him. I know JR said he wouldn't move either prospect, but for a 24 year old, maybe?

Staal would be a HUGE yes. Him centering the third line would be amazing and obviously allowing Simon, Horn and Bjug to rotate around the lineup.

AA is a player I've soured on, but would still be willing at a reasonable cost.
- Rinosaur

I’d absolutely love Domi, but he’d cost more than Zucker. 2021 1st, lagare/poulin, and a good roster player (Kahun maybe). Plus he’s due for a pretty big raise next year. I think it only works if the pens use him as a rental and trade him at the draft to recoup some of their losses

Jumbo and Marleau possibly headed this way...
- hipcheck_goalie

Jumbo wasn’t mentioned as interest to the Pens today, Marleau, but I’d welcome both.

I’d do Bjugstad for both.

Jumbo wasn’t mentioned as interest to the Pens today, Marleau, but I’d welcome both.

I’d do Bjugstad for both.
- Rinosaur

More likely picks for them...wouldn’t you think?

More likely picks for them...wouldn’t you think?
- Doogs

Well I can’t look up the roster numbers right now, but I’d think if they bring in two they’d need ship someone out.

Well I can’t look up the roster numbers right now, but I’d think if they bring in two they’d need ship someone out.
- Rinosaur

Probably, but the odds are against both coming anyway. Who would you prefer if given the choice?