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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:46 PM ET
Parise recapture penalties if he retires in the next 5 years kills the wild and affects the isles minimal
- Vukota

Good day to take off FINALLY!

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:47 PM ET
Good day to take off FINALLY!


- Cptmjl


Told you Lou would not let Vukota down.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:47 PM ET
More years and a higher cap hit. If the Isles weren't already going to have a number of probably-bad contracts on the books in a few years, I'd be all for it. This one's just a little too risky even for "go for it!" me
- UIF

It's a net increase of about $2M on the cap. My guess would be MIN would retain enough to make it an even-money transaction. Two years longer, yes, but Zach Parise is still a damn good NHL player, just one with a bad contract. Ladd is replacement level trash.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:47 PM ET
More years and a higher cap hit. If the Isles weren't already going to have a number of probably-bad contracts on the books in a few years, I'd be all for it. This one's just a little too risky even for "go for it!" me
- UIF

By them saying this is a 'complicated' deal, I wonder how much salary could Minny retain?. No idea how that even works these days.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 24 @ 12:48 PM ET
It's a net increase of about $2M on the cap. My guess would be MIN would retain enough to make it an even-money transaction. Two years longer, yes, but Zach Parise is still a damn good NHL player, just one with a bad contract. Ladd is replacement level trash.
- eichiefs9

If you have two bad deals and one good player better to have praise
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:48 PM ET
By them saying this is a 'complicated deal, I wonder how much salary could Minny retain?. No idea how that even works these days.
- keaner17

You can retain up to 50%. If MIN retained about $2M, Parise's cap hit would be the same as Ladd's.

The real question is, for me...what do the Isles have to give up to get him? That's what's going to make this deal great or terrible.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:49 PM ET
It's a net increase of about $2M on the cap. My guess would be MIN would retain enough to make it an even-money transaction. Two years longer, yes, but Zach Parise is still a damn good NHL player, just one with a bad contract. Ladd is replacement level trash.
- eichiefs9

My question is what In gods name are we trading for him besides Ladd?๐Ÿ˜‚
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:49 PM ET
If you have two bad deals and one good player better to have praise
- Upstate_isles

Zactly
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 12:50 PM ET
My question is what In gods name are we trading for him besides Ladd?๐Ÿ˜‚
- Cptmjl


Probably something substantial.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:50 PM ET
My question is what In gods name are we trading for him besides Ladd?๐Ÿ˜‚
- Cptmjl


JHS?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:50 PM ET
Probably something substantial.
- Wildschwein

I dunno. Wild are getting some benefit out that potential deal too. Maybe Aho? I can live with that.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:51 PM ET
You can retain up to 50%. If MIN retained about $2M, Parise's cap hit would be the same as Ladd's.

The real question is, for me...what do the Isles have to give up to get him? That's what's going to make this deal great or terrible.

- eichiefs9

Considering he is 35 and has 5 years left, I'm not sure how excited i am about this
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 12:52 PM ET
I dunno. Wild are getting some benefit out that potential deal too. Maybe Aho? I can live with that.
- eichiefs9


Fingers crossed.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:53 PM ET
Considering he is 35 and has 5 years left, I'm not sure how excited i am about this
- keaner17

He put up almost 30g and 61pts in 74gp last year. He's on pace for about the same goal total and 50ish points this year, so far. Playing on a bad wild team.

Lou doesn't have the assets to go get a prime young player, clearly. He's getting creative though.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:53 PM ET
Probably something substantial.
- Wildschwein

You would have to think. Hope it isnโ€™t Wahlstrom god forbid Dobson. Maybe Bellows!
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 24 @ 12:53 PM ET
Staple said it could kill the deal now that it has leaked but would be amazing if we extended a guy and another waived to come here (2 with greene) maybe times really have changed
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:53 PM ET
He put up almost 30g and 61pts in 74gp last year. He's on pace for about the same goal total and 50ish points this year, so far. Playing on a bad wild team.
- eichiefs9


Yep! Parise can still play. This makes calling up Ladd make sense.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:54 PM ET
Staple said it could kill the deal now that it has leaked but would be amazing if we extended a guy and another waived to come here (2 with greene) maybe times really have changed
- Upstate_isles

If Lameriello kills this because of his leaked BS aversion my head will explode.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 12:54 PM ET
Considering he is 35 and has 5 years left, I'm not sure how excited i am about this
- keaner17


Expansion draft, possibility Parise retires, possible LTIR (he's had back issues).

He's better than Ladd now though.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:55 PM ET
If Lameriello kills this because of his leaked BS aversion my head will explode.
- Cptmjl


I agree.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:56 PM ET
Expansion draft, possibility Parise retires, possible LTIR (he's had back issues).

He's better than Ladd now though.

- Wildschwein

Exactly. Lameriello is going for it. I (frank)ing love it.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:56 PM ET
Forget where I saw it, but per the CBA they couldn't officially announce an extension for Pageau until March 7th
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:57 PM ET
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:57 PM ET
Forget where I saw it, but per the CBA they couldn't officially announce an extension for Pageau until March 7th
- eichiefs9


As long as it gets done.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:57 PM ET
Forget where I saw it, but per the CBA they couldn't officially announce an extension for Pageau until March 7th
- eichiefs9

So I can stop refreshing as far as thatโ€™s concerned at least.
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