That's why dubas is da best.

Whenever you have the choice between skeji and a 1st, you choose neither.
- Tumbleweed

My fear is that he does nothing to address what is the real problem and the team looks the same again next season.

At that point, I think he has failed.

Didn't their decline start before all of their good players got traded away? Could Doughty's abilities be considered part of that decline?
- TheMussel

This is a rough timeline but...

Richards gets caught with drugs, has his contract terminated. Voynov beat the poop out of his wife, got suspended for years. Sutter got fired. Quick got hurt multiple times and has never been the same since. Carter fell off a cliff as most goal scorers do at 30. Brown also fell off a cliff as most power forwards do at 30. Kovalchuk got signed and busted. Muzzin got traded, among many other secondary parts.

If the team was exactly the same as it was 5 years ago but Doughty was the only one sucking the bag, you might have a point. But the fact that the team has been in a downward spiral for years suggests that the team itself imploded and created the mess that Doughty is currently stuck in.

He’s the maintenance manager asshat
- Dozzer

Well, the whole thing is understandable then. What is all the fuss about

Sources say “maybe”
- DrunkSkunk

Intriguing

My fear is that he does nothing to address what is the real problem and the team looks the same again next season.

At that point, I think he has failed.
- Aetherial

#TradeMarner

Well, the whole thing is understandable then. What is all the fuss about
- Aetherial

Well you know..... $500 is $500.....

Intriguing
- Dozzer

More to come

More to come
- DrunkSkunk

Uncle Edmund?

I choose Marleau.
- DrunkSkunk

Agreed.

We should have just sent the 1st to carolina and kept marleau.

#TradeMarner
- DrunkSkunk

IF, Marner is the real problem with the team, then sure.

He isn't though.

Well you know..... $500 is $500.....
- Dozzer

It is pretty sad that he only got like 500.00 I hope Carolina finds some way to compensate him more fairly.

I guess the experience is pretty damn good compensation.

Agreed.

We should have just sent the 1st to carolina and kept marleau.
- Tumbleweed

It is pretty sad that he only got like 500.00 I hope Carolina finds some way to compensate him more fairly.

I guess the experience is pretty damn good compensation.
- Aetherial

They did.... the proceeds of the tee shirt sales with his name and No. are being split between him and some kidney foundation.... I’m not sure what the split is, but that’s what’s happening.

My fear is that he does nothing to address what is the real problem and the team looks the same again next season.

At that point, I think he has failed.
- Aetherial

Barrie? Nylander?

The embarsement of marner wearing an A as if anyone could respect him?

Andersen, the one goalie in ~14 years (that lou found) that can handle this market?

It’s the base of the toilet isn’t it?
- Dozzer

Hey! I resemble that
🥴

IF, Marner is the real problem with the team, then sure.

He isn't though.
- Aetherial

He’s top-3.

This is a rough timeline but...

Richards gets caught with drugs, has his contract terminated. Voynov beat the poop out of his wife, got suspended for years. Sutter got fired. Quick got hurt multiple times and has never been the same since. Carter fell off a cliff as most goal scorers do at 30. Brown also fell off a cliff as most power forwards do at 30. Kovalchuk got signed and busted. Muzzin got traded, among many other secondary parts.

If the team was exactly the same as it was 5 years ago but Doughty was the only one sucking the bag, you might have a point. But the fact that the team has been in a downward spiral for years suggests that the team itself imploded and created the mess that Doughty is currently stuck in.
- JohnFergusonJr

I'm not really making a point. Though I find it odd that it is certain that doughty is impervious to decline and is a good value add for the Leafs.

Barrie? Nylander?

The embarsement of marner wearing an A as if anyone could respect him?

Andersen, the one goalie in ~14 years (that lou found) that can handle this market?
- Tumbleweed

Since when do GMs pick alternate captains? Is that a thing nowadays?

I'm not really making a point. Though I find it odd that it is certain that doughty is impervious to decline and is a good value add for the Leafs.
- TheMussel

What’s odd about it? UG saying so isn’t good enough for you?

Since when do GMs pick alternate captains? Is that a thing nowadays?
- joel878

When your dad negotiates that as part of your contract.

No way it was babs decision.

Hey! I resemble that
🥴
- Putin's Beard

So do I!

What’s odd about it? UG saying so isn’t good enough for you?
- DrunkSkunk

Pretty sure he thinks hockeybuzz is his 10+ year long interview for leafs GM. If you look at it that way... He's got to be killing it.

I'm not really making a point. Though I find it odd that it is certain that doughty is impervious to decline and is a good value add for the Leafs.
- TheMussel

I'm not saying Doughty is impervious to decline. I'm saying his "decline" is overstated based on history and his particular set of skills for at least the next 4-5 years which happens to perfectly line up with the Leafs window of opportunity.

He's a good value add if they retain salary but there's nobody else out there realistically available who fits the bill. Can you think of any?

Unless we go down the path of trading Nylander for a 18 year old top prospect and living and dying by that prospect being a boom or a bust. To me, that's the much more dangerous scenario and doesn't line up with the Leafs soon to be 4 year window of opportunity.

When your dad negotiates that as part of your contract.

No way it was babs decision.
- Tumbleweed

Well it was Babs decision to be poop at coaching so who knows...

Barrie? Nylander?

The embarsement of marner wearing an A as if anyone could respect him?

Andersen, the one goalie in ~14 years (that lou found) that can handle this market?
- Tumbleweed

No idea what the problem is with Marner or if he is the problem.

Surprised so many people are jumping on him. Tavares was much better last year with Marner, and Matthews season picked up this year when he was paired with Marner.

He hasn't played well lately, but you cant just give up on him that fast.