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Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
Sorry. Edit
- SuperSchennBros


It’s not important at all to me whether or not people like him. He isn’t my favorite player by any stretch, but I appreciate what he’s brought to the team so far.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
So if you guys didn’t care for Jeff Carter, Mark Recchi, Lupul, Pitkanen, Bryzgalov etc, Why is it so important that everybody like Kevin Hayes?

Edit. Sorry, quick type and went back to work

- SuperSchennBros


I don't think it's important to like him, but I appreciate what he's brought to the team on the ice.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:32 PM ET
We’re discussing Flyers. Been watching the Flyers for 50 years. In my humble opinion Eric was one of the best players I seen. He might not have been the next one but he was great in his own right. Most of us loved the way he played and appreciated the high skill level combined with size and strength. We just have to agree to disagree on Eric.
- Gogol



He might have had some arrogance but he was the total package, a 5 tool player if you will.

I would ask what player from the past could dominant in today’s NHL? I think it would Lindros hands down
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 26 @ 2:33 PM ET
Actually a very thought provoking question...


Eric Lindros


That's my choice. Have a great day all.

- Glak18


JFC
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
Name a good player or a half decent player but not perfect who once wore a Flyers uniform that you didn’t care for.

Go!

- SuperSchennBros


Mike York
Petr Nedved
Kyle Calder
Nolan Baumgartner
Jon Sim
Denis Gauthier
Geoff Sanderson
Turner Stevenson
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:40 PM ET
Keith Primeau is the bestest choice although Sean Burke is right there
- mayorofangrytown


I still need to mail you my Primeau Jersey
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:49 PM ET
Actually a very thought provoking question...

At first I had trouble naming someone because it was easy to throw out all the Flyers throughout the years I didn't care for whatever reason. I used the defined guideline as a good player who had an impact for the team throughout a reasonable tenure and the answer became absolutely crystal clear for me.

Eric Lindros

I only heard of the "Next One" when he was 14, good old Hockey News paper that I cherished, and started to follow him more every chance I could. He wasn't necessarily the biggest thing since Gretzky, but no question since Mario. I had to collect ALL his Score cards and watched his Oshawa games on VHS. He had it all big, strong, finesse and an amazing shot. I remember following the full drama that happened over the summer and jumping up in excitement when arbitration went the Flyers way. We FINALLY got that big deal in sports...IN Philly!

After watching that first year I just knew disappointment was in the making. He continued to skate around like everyone else was half his size like in juniors, but in juniors he was just able to brush them off like nothing. He was putting points up, but just couldn't stay in the lineup. Some may justify it as bad luck, but he put himself there most of the time. He received a lot of dirty hits, but man did he give out twice as many. I remember keeping track how much better the team played when he was out of the lineup and when he was in. Maybe that's his teammates fault, but they definitely seemed to play better without him a lot. He had so much potential to be so much more, but so did Daigle and everyone has potential. As a Flyer fan I love that he is in the HHOF, but for such prestige based on achievements and performance he does not belong no matter how someone wants to justify the what-ifs and could-of/would-ofs. Also in retrospect on what the Flyers had to give up just to have him as a part-time, drama filled superstar marketing name he could arguably be considered a bust.

That's my choice. Have a great day all.

- Glak18


Lindros is the Flyers all-time regular season points-per-game leader (was top 5 in NHL all-time points-per-game as of the time the Flyers portion of his career ended). In top 3 in playoff points per game in franchise history. Won a Hart Trophy, finalist the year after that (no one was beating Mario that year). Would likely have been a finalist a third time if not for the collapsed lung. He was a physical force.

In short, Lindros was everything he was supposed to be as a player, when you filter out the drama, the injuries and the fact that every team lining up to trade Quebec for his rights was offering packages that no one player alone -- no matter how great -- could make up for.

If you only look at Lindros on the ice as a player, he was one of the all-time greats. Just wasn't on the ice enough.
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:49 PM ET
Just curious what it may have taken to get Milano out of Columbus if they would even think about trading within the division. I was hoping Philly would select him in 2014 but Columbus jumped in right before them(the year they selected Sanheim). Obviously wasn't a fit with CBJ so a fresh start may have been what he needed. Looked good last night in Anaheim in his first game there.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:50 PM ET
Shawn Antonski once complained who’s got my back? I believe he was gone within a month. I sympathized with the plight of cement heads but not when they run their mouths.
- Gogol


Had nothing to do with Anton's departure.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:54 PM ET
LeClair didn't stop scoring when Lindros was watching from the press box...
- Glak18


Actually, with the exception of two months with Gratton in 1997-98, LeClair's production habitually dropped when Lindros wasn't his center. People used to wonder aloud why Brind'Amour and LeClair, for whatever reason, didn't have chemistry as linemates.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 26 @ 2:55 PM ET
Not judging, but why the hate on Mason?

For me it is probably Billy Tibbitts.

- hockeylover

Was he even an average player?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 2:58 PM ET
Was he even an average player?
- bodiva88


82 career games suggests not.

And his transgressions previous to his time in Philadelphia, and since suggest he's a complete POS.

n 1994, Tibbetts plead guilty to statutory rape, based on a 1992 interaction between a 17-year-old Tibbetts and a 15-year-old girl.[1] His sentence was suspended for 42 months. However, in 1995, while on probation for the statutory rape case, Tibbetts was convicted of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon (a BB gun), disorderly conduct and witness intimidation.[2][3] As a result, Tibbetts served 39 months in prison;[4] the sentence on the assault and battery charges was 30 months, but it would be served concurrently with the previously suspended sentence for rape. As a result of the convictions, Tibbetts had to register as a sex offender and could not play games in Canada


Tibbetts was arrested in August 2007 for leading police on a high-speed car chase, not long after having led police on a different high speed chase earlier in 2007.[24][25]

In 2019 he served 58 days for violating his probation, then pleaded guilty to two counts of criminal harassment against the Scituate police chief and the chief's sister, and one count each of violating a harassment prevention order, intimidating a witness and driving with a suspended license. Shortly after being released, he was arrested on new drug charges
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:04 PM ET
Good lord Detroit is awful. 34 points.

THIRTY FOUR POINTS!?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:05 PM ET
Good lord Detroit is awful. 34 points.

THIRTY FOUR POINTS!?

- jmatchett383


I bet they don't get Lafreniere.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:06 PM ET
Actually a very thought provoking question...

At first I had trouble naming someone because it was easy to throw out all the Flyers throughout the years I didn't care for whatever reason. I used the defined guideline as a good player who had an impact for the team throughout a reasonable tenure and the answer became absolutely crystal clear for me.

Eric Lindros

I only heard of the "Next One" when he was 14, good old Hockey News paper that I cherished, and started to follow him more every chance I could. He wasn't necessarily the biggest thing since Gretzky, but no question since Mario. I had to collect ALL his Score cards and watched his Oshawa games on VHS. He had it all big, strong, finesse and an amazing shot. I remember following the full drama that happened over the summer and jumping up in excitement when arbitration went the Flyers way. We FINALLY got that big deal in sports...IN Philly!

After watching that first year I just knew disappointment was in the making. He continued to skate around like everyone else was half his size like in juniors, but in juniors he was just able to brush them off like nothing. He was putting points up, but just couldn't stay in the lineup. Some may justify it as bad luck, but he put himself there most of the time. He received a lot of dirty hits, but man did he give out twice as many. I remember keeping track how much better the team played when he was out of the lineup and when he was in. Maybe that's his teammates fault, but they definitely seemed to play better without him a lot. He had so much potential to be so much more, but so did Daigle and everyone has potential. As a Flyer fan I love that he is in the HHOF, but for such prestige based on achievements and performance he does not belong no matter how someone wants to justify the what-ifs and could-of/would-ofs. Also in retrospect on what the Flyers had to give up just to have him as a part-time, drama filled superstar marketing name he could arguably be considered a bust.

That's my choice. Have a great day all.

- Glak18

Bold choice. I can kinda get on board. Felt the same way.
Gogol
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.16.2017

Feb 26 @ 3:06 PM ET
Had nothing to do with Anton's departure.
- bmeltzer

Bill please enlighten me. I always thought that was the reason. So it was a coincidence that he was gone soon after.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 26 @ 3:08 PM ET
I don't think it's important to like him, but I appreciate what he's brought to the team on the ice.
- jmatchett383


It’s not important at all to me whether or not people like him. He isn’t my favorite player by any stretch, but I appreciate what he’s brought to the team so far.
- Ftown19125


I 1000% appreciate what he’s brought to the team and I’ve handed him more and more credit as the season has gone on. I’ve seen others come around as well. I’m still not in love with that Kevin Hayes but I’ve absolutely give him credit, as has others.

Now, I’m not say either of you has done this because neither of you has but What kind of a loser hops on here at 3 AM in the morning just to tell the Hayes haters the stuffing? How happy with your life can you possibly be?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 26 @ 3:11 PM ET
Not sure if I'm answering correctly, but rather than importance of liking him I think it's more Hayes makes it difficult to not like him. He's scoring clutch goals, he's been a key contributor to our turned around PK, and lastly, which may be the biggest reason I enjoy him so much, his personality. Ever since we got rid of Hartsy this team has severely lacked a big personality imo. Hextal and Hakstol didn't help with this at all either. I really think Hayes has allowed other guys to be more themselves as well off the ice (TK, Laughton, Raffl). I think he's brought a more relaxed vibe in the locker room and has made our team and make up funner. It was always said with Simmonds and Giroux it was good cop bad cop.... With Hayes now it's like having two bigger brothers; Giroux is the serious one and Hayes is the bridge between captain serious and clownster
- arichardson22


You know what? He’s a much better player than I expected, and a part of that might be talent around him. I actually don’t think he’s as funny as people make them out to be. Something about mono tone people don’t make me laugh.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:12 PM ET
Bill please enlighten me. I always thought that was the reason. So it was a coincidence that he was gone soon after.
- Gogol


There probably isn't much to getting rid of Antoski other than he wasn't very good.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:13 PM ET
I still need to mail you my Primeau Jersey
- corduroy

I’ll get it signed by a good player and send it back. JVR? Joel Otto?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 3:15 PM ET
Mike York
Petr Nedved
Kyle Calder
Nolan Baumgartner
Jon Sim
Denis Gauthier
Geoff Sanderson
Turner Stevenson

- corduroy

Not too controversial there although I’ll never understand why Sim changed his game so much at the NHL level.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 26 @ 3:15 PM ET
Actually a very thought provoking question...

At first I had trouble naming someone because it was easy to throw out all the Flyers throughout the years I didn't care for whatever reason. I used the defined guideline as a good player who had an impact for the team throughout a reasonable tenure and the answer became absolutely crystal clear for me.

Eric Lindros

I only heard of the "Next One" when he was 14, good old Hockey News paper that I cherished, and started to follow him more every chance I could. He wasn't necessarily the biggest thing since Gretzky, but no question since Mario. I had to collect ALL his Score cards and watched his Oshawa games on VHS. He had it all big, strong, finesse and an amazing shot. I remember following the full drama that happened over the summer and jumping up in excitement when arbitration went the Flyers way. We FINALLY got that big deal in sports...IN Philly!

After watching that first year I just knew disappointment was in the making. He continued to skate around like everyone else was half his size like in juniors, but in juniors he was just able to brush them off like nothing. He was putting points up, but just couldn't stay in the lineup. Some may justify it as bad luck, but he put himself there most of the time. He received a lot of dirty hits, but man did he give out twice as many. I remember keeping track how much better the team played when he was out of the lineup and when he was in. Maybe that's his teammates fault, but they definitely seemed to play better without him a lot. He had so much potential to be so much more, but so did Daigle and everyone has potential. As a Flyer fan I love that he is in the HHOF, but for such prestige based on achievements and performance he does not belong no matter how someone wants to justify the what-ifs and could-of/would-ofs. Also in retrospect on what the Flyers had to give up just to have him as a part-time, drama filled superstar marketing name he could arguably be considered a bust.

That's my choice. Have a great day all.

- Glak18


Eric Lindros is my 1-A and John LeClair is my 1-B of all time Flyers but if you hated Lindros, I can’t argue with you. Growing up outside of Philadelphia, you guys probably have no idea how hated Lindros was outside of your area. When you talk about him refusing to put on the Quebec Nordiques jersey at the draft. His fathers antics behind the scenes. The fact that he sat out a year before going to New York. There is a lot of hockey lovers that did not like Eric Lindros.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
I’ll get it signed by a good player and send it back. JVR? Joel Otto?
- mayorofangrytown


Kent Manderville could probably use a few bucks, why not slip him a $5 and have him sign stuff for a few hours?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 26 @ 3:18 PM ET
Mike York
Petr Nedved
Kyle Calder
Nolan Baumgartner
Jon Sim
Denis Gauthier
Geoff Sanderson
Turner Stevenson

- corduroy


I meant good players

Geoff Sanderson is the best player on this list
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:21 PM ET
I meant good players

Geoff Sanderson is the best player on this list

- SuperSchennBros


Nedved had a 99 point season...a decade before we got him.
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