What’s up gents? Are we still arguing if Freddy is a good goalie or not? How much Marner is really worth? Which d-men really belong in the AHL?

Oh, so much to discuss in Leaf Land...

damn straight.

has been for a while.

suck it dermott haters. his long-term contract is coming.
- Tumbleweed

Wait.. Which team is going to offer-sheet him?

Let's see.... 5-6 years.... or at least buying a few ufa years..... considering his performance + potential..... now you add up the obvious Leafs overpay.... and you get......

3.75M per year for 5 years!
- Scabeh

That’s a touch high, once the regulars are back is role will lessen and that will be what likely defines his next contract

That’s a touch high, once the regulars are back is role will lessen and that will be what likely defines his next contract
- Dozzer

I think Dermott's next contract will be a 4 yr deal at $11M.. $2.75M per season.

That’s a touch high, once the regulars are back is role will lessen and that will be what likely defines his next contract
- Dozzer

Well so far, starting next season, he's the Leafs #3 defenseman is he not?

I think Dermott's next contract will be a 4 yr deal at $11M.. $2.75M per season.
- PatC80

That's probably more reasonable.

Total cap hit for all defenseman last night was probably like 8 million.

We have no business winning with the amount of plugs we have on defense right now...But killjoys gonna killjoy.
- Leafs43

Jesus. It was even less: 7.5m, and after they benched Liljegren, it was $6.6m.

There are 18 defensemen in the NHL who make more than our defense-corps cost yesterday after the 2nd period.

Well so far, starting next season, he's the Leafs #3 defenseman is he not?
- Scabeh

Maybe?

Right now our top 6 are probably;

Rielly, Muzzin, Sandin, Holl, Dermott, Liljegren.

I think Dermott's next contract will be a 4 yr deal at $11M.. $2.75M per season.
- PatC80

Yeah that seems about the right ballpark figure for sure

Well so far, starting next season, he's the Leafs #3 defenseman is he not?
- Scabeh

Don’t make me ban you lol

Maybe?

Right now our top 6 are probably;

Rielly, Muzzin, Sandin, Holl, Dermott, Liljegren.
- PatC80

Despite Sandin having the most potential down the line, I'd dare say Dermott would currently fit in at #3 there in my book.

But that's obviously if the Leafs add absolutely no one on defense during the offseason, which is unlikely.

Yeah that seems about the right ballpark figure for sure
- Dozzer

If he wants more $$, trade him..

We'll have Rielly, Muzzin and Sandin on the left side..

Despite Sandin having the most potential down the line, I'd dare say Dermott would fit in at #3 there in my book.
- Scabeh

Likely, but if we go LHD/RHD pairings only, he might be a 5-6-7 guy...


Rielly - Insert someone that can defend
Muzzin - Holl, maybe??
Dermott/Sandin-Liljegren

Despite Sandin having the most potential down the line, I'd dare say Dermott would currently fit in at #3 there in my book.

But that's obviously if the Leafs add absolutely no one on defense during the offseason, which is unlikely.
- Scabeh

I'd like Keefe to try Muzzin-Reilly together. They've never really had a shot to be the top matchup pair. Then next season:

Muzzin-Reilly
Dermott-Holl
Sandin - UFA/whoever

I'd like Keefe to try Muzzin-Reilly together. They've never really had a shot to be the top matchup pair. Then next season:

Muzzin-Reilly
Dermott-Holl
Sandin - UFA/whoever
- Schennski

I believe it's because they play the same side.

It's never ideal to have a defenseman play on his bad side, even if some do manage it quite well.

Maybe Rielly or Muzzin could.

Likely, but if we go LHD/RHD pairings only, he might be a 5-6-7 guy...


Rielly - Insert someone that can defend
Muzzin - Holl, maybe??
Dermott/Sandin-Liljegren
- PatC80

Possibly one of Dermott or Liljegren will be packaged with Johnsson in a trade for the Insert someone that can defend player.

or

Some intriguing right handed d-men UFA available next year too.

If he wants more $$, trade him..

We'll have Rielly, Muzzin and Sandin on the left side..
- PatC80

It may be a good year to trade him... especially if he increases his value enough with all these injuries.

I don’t know... if Holl and Dermott end up proving themselves as an effective shutdown pairing maybe just maybe Dubas might have to reconsider his blue line plan moving forward

I believe it's because they play the same side.

It's never ideal to have a defenseman play on his bad side, even if some do manage it quite well.

Maybe Rielly or Muzzin could.
- Scabeh

I think Rielly has a skill set capable of the switch... that’s the kind of thing that you never know until you do it tho

I think Dermott's next contract will be a 4 yr deal at $11M.. $2.75M per season.
- PatC80

Hrm.

Zadorov got 1x$3.2m

Sanheim got 1x$3.25m

Carlo got 2x$2.85m

Pionk got 2x$3m

Will Butcher got 3x$3.7m

Marcus Petterson got 5x$4.025; it buys 2 UFA years and seems like a bit of an overpayment.


I'd say he's something like 2x$2.5, 3x$3, 4x$3.25m, or 5x$3.75. And those might be low . . .

Hrm.

Zadorov got 1x$3.2m

Sanheim got 1x$3.25m

Carlo got 2x$2.85m

Pionk got 2x$3m

Will Butcher got 3x$3.7m

Marcus Petterson got 5x$4.025; it buys 2 UFA years and seems like a bit of an overpayment.


I'd say he's something like 2x$2.5, 3x$3, 4x$3.25m, or 5x$3.75. And those might be low . . .
- Monkeypunk

I see we have the same calculator.

I think Rielly has a skill set capable of the switch... that’s the kind of thing that you never know until you do it tho
- Dozzer

I don't think Rielly can play the right side.. Hainsey played on that side for the years he was paired with Rielly.

I see we have the same calculator.
- Scabeh

Hrm.

Zadorov got 1x$3.2m

Sanheim got 1x$3.25m

Carlo got 2x$2.85m

Pionk got 2x$3m

Will Butcher got 3x$3.7m

Marcus Petterson got 5x$4.025; it buys 2 UFA years and seems like a bit of an overpayment.


I'd say he's something like 2x$2.5, 3x$3, 4x$3.25m, or 5x$3.75. And those might be low . . .
- Monkeypunk

Dermott, will take less, because he's a Leafs fan, and also, because it would be better if he did

- Dozzer

The (frank)ing best!

I don't think Rielly can play the right side.. Hainsey played on that side for the years he was paired with Rielly.
- PatC80

Yeah, like I said you don’t unless you try it.... and maybe they have in practice.. who the hell knows? I certainly don’t