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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:10 PM ET
I don't think the depth of talent is significant past the guys who have already made it, and fingers crossed on the first two picks from last year, who I don't expect to contribute for another two+ years. Maybe you get Fatty/Benn type minutes from on of the D, not exactly exciting. Didn't care for the Madden pick, kid is so small, but he proved at world Juniors and in college this year to be better than I thought. To me that's worth keeping to see where it goes.
- 1970vintage


It will definitely take a few more years . A lot of things have to go right but I am enjoying the process. I seen the growth of Petey from one year to another and there is still things to work on in his game.

Hughes in his rookie year has blown all my expectations . Pod K is going to be a strong addition , I am calling it now


manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 15 @ 1:12 PM ET
I am hoping it is a priority. To me it is just as important as Markstrom .
- VANTEL

I haven't heard anything because I haven't looked but does this games lost affect the salary cap for next season?

If it went down (that would be I don't have a word) Bad? for a lot of teams.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:14 PM ET
I am hoping it is a priority. To me it is just as important as Markstrom .
- VANTEL

To me it's getting some value after trading away a 2nd round pick in a deep draft.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:15 PM ET
Yup, it seem's that he like's it here. Always good to have talent like that with a ring.
- VanHockeyGuy



Yeah he has instant chemistry with his line . He could be a 30 goal guy here plus he loves the city.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 15 @ 1:17 PM ET
I haven't heard anything because I haven't looked but does this games lost affect the salary cap for next season?

If it went down (that would be I don't have a word) Bad? for a lot of teams.

- manvanfan

It absolutely does affect the cap, no revenue means smaller cap numbers. Elliott Friedman was talking about it yesterday or the day before.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 15 @ 1:17 PM ET
Yeah he has instant chemistry with his line . He could be a 30 goal guy here plus he loves the city.
- VANTEL


Getting passes from EP, pretty good gig.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:18 PM ET
It will definitely take a few more years . A lot of things have to go right but I am enjoying the process. I seen the growth of Petey from one year to another and there is still things to work on in his game.

Hughes in his rookie year has blown all my expectations . Pod K is going to be a strong addition , I am calling it now

- VANTEL

I can see both sides of the fence with peoples perceptions on the team.

I think I was more surprised by Pettersson’s rookie year than Hughes, I used to joke that he would be the next Bobby Orr. Pettersson was like a gangly kid that seemed to go splat when checked. Hughes is poised and calm and seems to stay away from being hit for the most part.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:19 PM ET
To me it's getting some value after trading away a 2nd round pick in a deep draft.
- Marwood


I think we will get a high pick back.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
It absolutely does affect the cap, no revenue means smaller cap numbers. Elliott Friedman was talking about it yesterday or the day before.
- LeftCoaster

I know how teams would be able to get under the cap but that could seriously change the landscape of the entire league. Free agents are going to have to take much less.

I think the cap went up too fast and considering the players are paying back as much as 10% of their salaries every year. The cap isn't really an actual cap in a way.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
I think we will get a high pick back.
- VANTEL


I hope so. I enjoy the weeks leading up to the draft. At least a 2nd rounder.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
I think we will get a high pick back.
- VANTEL

How? Trade Virtanen?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
I can see both sides of the fence with peoples perceptions on the team.

I think I was more surprised by Pettersson’s rookie year than Hughes, I used to joke that he would be the next Bobby Orr. Pettersson was like a gangly kid that seemed to go splat when checked. Hughes is poised and calm and seems to stay away from being hit for the most part.

- Makita


Their hot n cold record makes it easy to see both sides.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 15 @ 1:24 PM ET
I hope so. I enjoy the weeks leading up to the draft. At least a 2nd rounder.
- VanHockeyGuy

I need 2- 2nds one in the top 31-40 and another later in the 2nd to get who I want. Doesn't mean they will get picked there because I know last year everyone I wanted in each round went a round before I had them pegged.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:24 PM ET
How? Trade Virtanen?
- LeftCoaster


Whatever I think they will give up people will hate . You have to give up something to get something and Jake is one of the few pieces that has value.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:25 PM ET
I think we will get a high pick back.
- VANTEL

With?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:27 PM ET
Whatever I think they will give up people will hate . You have to give up something to get something and Jake is one of the few pieces that has value.
- VANTEL

I thought you were against trading a developed player for someone who may never play in the NHL?
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 15 @ 1:28 PM ET
Whatever I think they will give up people will hate . You have to give up something to get something and Jake is one of the few pieces that has value.
- VANTEL

Is the pick or JV more important for team success right now? I don’t know the answer to that, just wondering what your thoughts are. I’m not as high on any of our prospects contributing to the club in any significant way in the next three years so they should probably keep JV.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 15 @ 1:30 PM ET
I thought you were against trading a developed player for someone who may never play in the NHL?
- Marwood

This is very much a mediocre team without great goaltending, I’m not sure trading established players for picks is a great idea when you’ve finally made some progress on the draft floor and with a good trade in acquiring Miller.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:31 PM ET
Whatever I think they will give up people will hate . You have to give up something to get something and Jake is one of the few pieces that has value.
- VANTEL


As long as they aren't giving up Jake to get rid of Bear (or similar)
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:33 PM ET
This is very much a mediocre team without great goaltending, I’m not sure trading established players for picks is a great idea when you’ve finally made some progress on the draft floor and with a good trade in acquiring Miller.
- LeftCoaster

Agreed. I would keep drafting and developing. Stay away from waivers and jump into free agency after the initial 48 hours.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:34 PM ET
I thought you were against trading a developed player for someone who may never play in the NHL?
- Marwood



If Jake signed for less than two mil per I would keep him but that is unlikely.

I made my choice and it was an easy choice to keep Toffoli over Jake.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 15 @ 1:34 PM ET
Is the pick or JV more important for team success right now? I don’t know the answer to that, just wondering what your thoughts are. I’m not as high on any of our prospects contributing to the club in any significant way in the next three years so they should probably keep JV.
- LeftCoaster


Like Vantel said, maybe move a prospect, and someone not named JV?
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 15 @ 1:35 PM ET
As long as they aren't giving up Jake to get rid of Bear (or similar)
- 1970vintage

Two more years of Eriksson and one more of Baertschi and Sutter
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 15 @ 1:38 PM ET
Two more years of Eriksson and one more of Baertschi and Sutter
- LeftCoaster

LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 15 @ 1:38 PM ET
If Jake signed for less than two mil per I would keep him but that is unlikely.

I made my choice and it was an easy choice to keep Toffoli over Jake.

- VANTEL

Too bad Benning has so many bad contracts on the books from reaching and covering his ass all at the same time because keeping both would 100% make the club better.
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