https://twitter.com/i/status/1239367483317981190

This is pure gold.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1239367483317981190

This is pure gold.
- VANTEL

i sent this to my parents last night, they were crying laughing.

i sent this to my parents last night, they were crying laughing.
- Codes1087

Definitely one of the funnier ones I have seen

Yeah heard that was the best comparison. Though QH has better edge work and less physicality. If he later does something inventive as a D man then he'll be closer to Orr.
- NuckUp

lol how would Hughes compare to the greatest player of all time?

Couldn't even pack Orr's lunch dude.

Yeah heard that was the best comparison. Though QH has better edge work and less physicality. If he later does something inventive as a D man then he'll be closer to Orr.
- NuckUp

I think we should all refrain from comparing anyone to Bobby Orr. As Canucks fans we could be mocked for jumping the gun comparing him to one of the top 3 to play the game. Coffey, Niedermeyer, and people of that ilk, yes, I feel is a valid comparison. What say you?

lol how would Hughes compare to the greatest player of all time?

Couldn't even pack Orr's lunch dude.
- LordHumungous

I agree with you but you have to wonder how the players of yesteryear would stack up in today's game.

Back in Orr's day in between periods Lafluer was getting in his usual two smokes and pounding back a bottle of Molson .

No question of Orr's dominance but the quality of the competition certainly is questionable. For the record Hughes has more points in his rookie year.

I think we should all refrain from comparing anyone to Bobby Orr. As Canucks fans we could be mocked for jumping the gun comparing him to one of the top 3 to play the game. Coffey, Niedermeyer, and people of that ilk, yes, I feel is a valid comparison. What say you?
- kaptaan

You can’t fix stupid

https://twitter.com/i/status/1239367483317981190

This is pure gold.
- VANTEL

Thank you for that!!

I think we should all refrain from comparing anyone to Bobby Orr. As Canucks fans we could be mocked for jumping the gun comparing him to one of the top 3 to play the game. Coffey, Niedermeyer, and people of that ilk, yes, I feel is a valid comparison. What say you?
- kaptaan

Both superb skaters.

Thank you for that!!
- Marwood

https://twitter.com/i/status/1239367483317981190

This is pure gold.
- VANTEL

I agree with you but you have to wonder how the players of yesteryear would stack up in today's game.

Back in Orr's day in between periods Lafluer was getting in his usual two smokes and pounding back a bottle of Molson .

No question of Orr's dominance but the quality of the competition certainly is questionable. For the record Hughes has more points in his rookie year.
- VANTEL

There is always debate on comparing era's that not much can be agreed on.

All you need to do is look at the PPG. Even if Hughes gets 60-75 points per season(s) from here on out it still only puts him at 0.8 or 0.9 PPG.

Orr sits at 1.3 PPG which is remarkable for the short time he was in the league.

What he accomplished in that period regardless of era is unreal.

I personally don't think we will ever see a complete player like him again...ever.

You can’t fix stupid
- LeftCoaster

You should keep up hope. I'm sure you can get help.
👍🏼

There is always debate on comparing era's that not much can be agreed on.

All you need to do is look at the PPG. Even if Hughes gets 60-75 points per season(s) from here on out it still only puts him at 0.8 or 0.9 PPG.

Orr sits at 1.3 PPG which is remarkable for the short time he was in the league.

What he accomplished in that period regardless of era is unreal.

I personally don't think we will ever see a complete player like him again...ever.
- LordHumungous

I don't buy into that theory. I will give you the fact about dominance in their era but the competition levels are night and day.

Do you not think it would have been easier to score on maskless 5'7 Gump Worsley with his skinny pads or 6'5 Pekka Rinne fully padded

JC Tremblay or Zedano Chara?

Semenko and Tim Hunter were goons at the height of 6'2 . Petey is that tall now. Most of those guys back then would have probably not made the NHL in today's NHL

I agree with you but you have to wonder how the players of yesteryear would stack up in today's game.

Back in Orr's day in between periods Lafluer was getting in his usual two smokes and pounding back a bottle of Molson .

No question of Orr's dominance but the quality of the competition certainly is questionable. For the record Hughes has more points in his rookie year.
- VANTEL

counter point: what if those players had the nutrition, coaching (from childhood), training knowledge that the players do now?

with respect to comparing players across generations, i've always looked at how much more dominant they were compared to their competition.

orr, gretzky, lemieux were so above their contemporaries that they were on completely different levels.

are any players today as dominant?

and had those 3 been born in 1995 with their "natural born talent," (something we can never measure so it's a useless term i'll admit), how good would they be?

at the end of the day, it's just a conversation that has absolutely no answer.

counter point: what if those players had the nutrition, coaching (from childhood), training knowledge that the players do now?

with respect to comparing players across generations, i've always looked at how much more dominant they were compared to their competition.

orr, gretzky, lemieux were so above their contemporaries that they were on completely different levels.

are any players today as dominant?

and had those 3 been born in 1995 with their "natural born talent," (something we can never measure so it's a useless term i'll admit), how good would they be?

at the end of the day, it's just a conversation that has absolutely no answer.
- RealityChecker

Definitely some good points and definitely has no absolute answer.

Orr played in an Era against the best Ontario and Quebec players , that did hockey as a part time job , and against undersized goalies with small pads and no masks for most of his career.

The NHL had the shock of their life when they played the summit series. They played against a team that trained all year round . The stars of the NHL found out they were not the best in the world even though they won. Bobby Clarke's two handed slash probably saved the series.

I have no doubt Gretz and Orr would have survived this modern NHL but you are right we will never know. I honestly don't think you would see the same numbers just from watching back highlights of their foot speed and shot speed.

The player I am tending for as the GOAT is OV . He is putting up unbelievable numbers in this modern NHL.

Definitely some good points and definitely has no absolute answer.

Orr played in an Era against the best Ontario and Quebec players , that did hockey as a part time job , and against undersized goalies with small pads and no masks for most of his career.

The NHL had the shock of their life when they played the summit series. They played against a team that trained all year round . The stars of the NHL found out they were not the best in the world even though they won. Bobby Clarke's two handed slash probably saved the series.

I have no doubt Gretz and Orr would have survived this modern NHL but you are right we will never know. I honestly don't think you would see the same numbers just from watching back highlights of their foot speed and shot speed.

The player I am tending for as the GOAT is OV . He is putting up unbelievable numbers in this modern NHL.
- VANTEL

My larger point would be that as humans progress, of course the "best" will be the latest incarnation. That's because they build on the collective knowledge of the past. So to correct for the lack of knowledge (training, nutrition, tactics etc) a good measure is gap over competition. Also, humans are just getting bigger, stronger, faster.

Put another way, if Brandon Gaunce was born in 1920 with the knowledge and training he has now, every NHL award would be named after him.

The best in absolute terms will always be from the current generation but to compare generations you need to try to equalize their circumstances.

My larger point would be that as humans progress, of course the "best" will be the latest incarnation. That's because they build on the collective knowledge of the past. So to correct for the lack of knowledge (training, nutrition, tactics etc) a good measure is gap over competition. Also, humans are just getting bigger, stronger, faster.

Put another way, if Brandon Gaunce was born in 1920 with the knowledge and training he has now, every NHL award would be named after him.

The best in absolute terms will always be from the current generation but to compare generations you need to try to equalize their circumstances.
- RealityChecker

I always try to take that into account and like you said there is no absolute answer.

Gretzky played in an era where kids would start playing at 8 years old . Gretz was learning to skate at 4 years old on his back yard rink. He had a 4 year head start on the rest of the hockey community .

He never seemed to be they type to hit the weights or gym . I remember him many times in the bar with the team and Joey getting drunk

The thing about Gretz is he has one of the sharpest hockey minds ever. So he will always be a top player.

My larger point would be that as humans progress, of course the "best" will be the latest incarnation. That's because they build on the collective knowledge of the past. So to correct for the lack of knowledge (training, nutrition, tactics etc) a good measure is gap over competition. Also, humans are just getting bigger, stronger, faster.

Put another way, if Brandon Gaunce was born in 1920 with the knowledge and training he has now, every NHL award would be named after him.

The best in absolute terms will always be from the current generation but to compare generations you need to try to equalize their circumstances.
- RealityChecker

- Marwood

Vintsy got a woodie

My larger point would be that as humans progress, of course the "best" will be the latest incarnation. That's because they build on the collective knowledge of the past. So to correct for the lack of knowledge (training, nutrition, tactics etc) a good measure is gap over competition. Also, humans are just getting bigger, stronger, faster.

Put another way, if Brandon Gaunce was born in 1920 with the knowledge and training he has now, every NHL award would be named after him.

The best in absolute terms will always be from the current generation but to compare generations you need to try to equalize their circumstances.
- RealityChecker

fantastic lol

My larger point would be that as humans progress, of course the "best" will be the latest incarnation. That's because they build on the collective knowledge of the past. So to correct for the lack of knowledge (training, nutrition, tactics etc) a good measure is gap over competition. Also, humans are just getting bigger, stronger, faster.

Put another way, if Brandon Gaunce was born in 1920 with the knowledge and training he has now, every NHL award would be named after him.

The best in absolute terms will always be from the current generation but to compare generations you need to try to equalize their circumstances.
- RealityChecker

Competition is also an important part of training and development. If you train with and play against better players, you're pushed to improve faster. I'd say that's a disadvantage the stars from yesteryear faced compared to players from today.

There's also the issue of equipment. Skates and sticks were terrible relative to what's available now. Not that Brendan ever used his stick to score.

Competition is also an important part of training and development. If you train with and play against better players, you're pushed to improve faster. I'd say that's a disadvantage the stars from yesteryear faced compared to players from today.

There's also the issue of equipment. Skates and sticks were terrible relative to what's available now. Not that Brendan ever used his stick to score.

- YeOldTimer

Competition is also an important part of training and development. If you train with and play against better players, you're pushed to improve faster. I'd say that's a disadvantage the stars from yesteryear faced compared to players from today.

There's also the issue of equipment. Skates and sticks were terrible relative to what's available now. Not that Brendan ever used his stick to score.

- YeOldTimer

Good point. As Vantel mentioned earlier, there used to be part time hockey players. If the money was there like it is now, better athletes would be attracted to the sport and do it on a full time basis.

Better competition makes everyone better. A high tide lifts all boats.

Lol at the Gaunce comment.

Competition is also an important part of training and development. If you train with and play against better players, you're pushed to improve faster. I'd say that's a disadvantage the stars from yesteryear faced compared to players from today.

There's also the issue of equipment. Skates and sticks were terrible relative to what's available now. Not that Brendan ever used his stick to score.

- YeOldTimer

Touche.