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Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Apr 2 @ 4:00 PM ET
Virus is gonna tank the market. Will be a able to get steals on houses in a couple months if you have the cash
- Fattony1187

One downside of that is it potentially could lead to more of the problem that escalated 10 yrs ago. So many houses wind up becoming corporation owned overpriced rental properties for those who don't have the cash available to buy. I still wonder why Obama didn't give that stimulus money to the people who needed help to keep up with their mortgages, instead of just handing it right to the banks. The banks had a big hand in creating the problem by loaning money carelessly, but they got their money, while taking the houses back to sell again.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 2 @ 4:07 PM ET
Just read that the USA is 4.25% of the worlds population, and we have 25% of the worlds COVID-19 cases.

Just a bang up job by this country in handling this.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 2 @ 4:10 PM ET
One downside of that is it potentially could lead to more of the problem that escalated 10 yrs ago. So many houses wind up becoming corporation owned overpriced rental properties for those who don't have the cash available to buy. I still wonder why Obama didn't give that stimulus money to the people who needed help to keep up with their mortgages, instead of just handing it right to the banks. The banks had a big hand in creating the problem by loaning money carelessly, but they got their money, while taking the houses back to sell again.
- Ratsreign


Dont kid yourself. This stimulus just added another step. Most people will be handing their $1200 directly to the bank or to a credit card company
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 2 @ 4:10 PM ET
Just read that the USA is 4.25% of the worlds population, and we have 25% of the worlds COVID-19 cases.

Just a bang up job by this country in handling this.

- sbroads24



Definitely no fault of the spring breakers, people having parties or infected people flying and not telling anyone right 🙄
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
I work twice as hard as your grandfather ever did.
- BeadyEyedDouche



I don’t think you worked half as hard as my dad did let alone my grandfather.

😂
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 2 @ 4:13 PM ET
Dont kid yourself. This stimulus just added another step. Most people will be handing their $1200 directly to the bank or to a credit card company
- jcragcrumple

People will be using it to stay up on there mortgages and such.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 4:15 PM ET
i bought my house in snyder for 130k 3.5 years ago now its worth 180k

neighbors added a 2nd bathroom (literally a toilet and a shower in the basement) and sold theirs for 220k

its ridiculous

- robz228


Bro wtf. I’m moving to the U.S forsure.

Condos here go for 500K.

Different country of course and my currency is worth about 70% yours is but damn.

Even in Western Ontario where it is cheap like London where my girlfriend lives it’s $350K for a semi.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 2 @ 4:16 PM ET
People will be using it to stay up on there mortgages and such.
- Buff36


Exactly
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 2 @ 4:18 PM ET
Bro wtf. I’m moving to the U.S forsure.

Condos here go for 500K.

Different country of course and my currency is worth about 70% yours is but damn.

Even in Western Ontario where it is cheap like London where my girlfriend lives it’s $350K for a semi.

- Pegullaville

I bought my house in Hamburg, 3 bedroom 1700 Square feet for 160,000. Got a VA loan, which helped out immensely,
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 2 @ 4:18 PM ET
I happened to be talking about this with my friend last night, and I was using the inflation calculator to figure out how much my parents' first house cost. I just used the calculator on your $35,000 figure which is about $96,000 now. Idk what part of the area you lived in, but I can tell you $96,000 will buy you a smallish 2-bedroom house in a "transitional" neighborhood on the west side, currently. That's doable. If you want a smallish house in a quieter suburb with a good school district, you're looking at double that for an entry level home. That means coming up with $40k for a down payment. Not easy.

This isn't meant as a "woe are we" post, but somewhere along the line, home values outstripped inflation and salaries by a sizable margin

- jcragcrumple


Ya, housing values are going up, up, up. And saving is tough, tough, tough.
It is, and I get it.

It is an interesting discussion.
I think alot of things are relative though.

In 1982, the P&I on $33,250 = $461.00 monthly, at 16.5%, which is equivalent to $1,237 in 2020.
In 2020 a monthly P&I payment of $1,237 with 5% down will buy about $190,000 - $195,000 house. That falls in line with your estimate above. Taxes today would be more for sure, so would have to knock that price tag down for sure.

The house I bought was 4 rooms; 2 bedroom, Liv Rm and eat-in Kitchen. It was run-down pretty good in Town of Tonawanda, no garage. I only put down 5%.

I rennovated, literally gutted the entire house and expanded the walk-up attic to have another bedroom, sided it myself as well.
4 years later I sold it for $70,000. Bought 2 more houses and rennovated them myself and sold them for good profit as well. My goal was to get to Clarence...took about 10 years and 2 more houses to renovate significantly.
Sweat-equity was the only way to do it for me.

$17,000 salary figures to be the equivalent of about $46,000 in 2020.
My wife at the time worked in retail...made about $9,000 which would be $24,000
So about $70,000 in total today.

I assume two teacher's should be making about $45,000 each, so say $80-$90k, maybe more? Seat-equity and a longer- term plan seems to be in-store from them as well?

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 4:22 PM ET
I bought my house in Hamburg, 3 bedroom 1700 Square feet for 160,000. Got a VA loan, which helped out immensely,
- Buff36



3 br
2 bath
1908 sq ft
1/4 acre
In the village
$95,000
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 2 @ 4:23 PM ET
So if there is a buyout next year and I have seen some people calling for Skinner if there is one. I really can't see Pegula dishing out that out.
- Buff36


2/3 of remaining $63m = $42m buyout roughly.
Botts would be walked to the door...maybe his ass kicked through the door.

I mean, setting up oil rigs is expensive.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 2 @ 4:25 PM ET
3 br
2 bath
1908 sq ft
1/4 acre
In the village
$95,000

- dadeadhead


I live in a van down by the river
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 2 @ 4:26 PM ET
3 br
2 bath
1908 sq ft
1/4 acre
In the village
$95,000

- dadeadhead

Wow, not bad at all. I got 2.5 bathrooms and a 1Acre. And a Finished Basement. When did you buy, that's pretty good being right in the Village.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 2 @ 4:27 PM ET
I live in a van down by the river
- gerbe75pts

Is it custom
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 2 @ 4:28 PM ET
Just read that the USA is 4.25% of the worlds population, and we have 25% of the worlds COVID-19 cases.

Just a bang up job by this country in handling this.

- sbroads24


The Chinese Virus infection rate is worse than reported.
47% False-negative rate with Chinese Testing.
Don't believe their reported numbers.

If US had used their testing early on in Feb. We would have looked better than it was.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 4:30 PM ET
Wow, not bad at all. I got 2.5 bathrooms and a 1Acre. And a Finished Basement. When did you buy, that's pretty good being right in the Village.
- Buff36



2007
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 4:30 PM ET
I live in a van down by the river
- gerbe75pts



Better than a box on the street.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 2 @ 4:31 PM ET
2007
- dadeadhead

Do you pay Village and Town taxes.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 2 @ 4:34 PM ET
Don’t think the owners either. Unemployment is gonna be above 30%. Who is buying tickets next year?
- Fattony1187


If u take away 50% of players’ salaries,
that $$$ goes to the owners
It doesn’t just disappear

Idk what u mean?


Ticket sales declining won’t affect salaries one way or the other
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 2 @ 4:37 PM ET
This is why people rag on Boomers.. broad generalizations about Millenials, while Boomers grew up in the ideal time to be an American and absolve themselves of any responsibility for our present situation. Your generation have been occupying all positions of power for the last 20+ years, and have been complicit in completely shaping the world and this country into what it is today; and yes, that includes everything you hate about Millenials.

Then Boomers ask, "what on earth did we ever do to you, you privileged Millenial?"

You did nothing. You let this happen. Now it's up to us and our grandchildren, and their grandchildren to clean up the mess you created.

- BareMetal


BOOM
Good Post!
BareMetal
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.15.2017

Apr 2 @ 4:37 PM ET
Dont kid yourself. This stimulus just added another step. Most people will be handing their $1200 directly to the bank or to a credit card company
- jcragcrumple


Welcome to the American Dream, where everyone gets the opportunity to be a debt slave.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 2 @ 4:39 PM ET
Definitely no fault of the spring breakers, people having parties or infected people flying and not telling anyone right 🙄
- Fattony1187

All of it
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 4:42 PM ET
Do you pay Village and Town taxes.
- Buff36



Sure do.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 2 @ 4:46 PM ET
BOOM
Good Post!

- jdfitz77


Yawn.
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