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Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 2 @ 10:21 AM ET
All professional athletes salaries should be cut in half. the last three weeks show how unimportant they are to society.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 2 @ 10:29 AM ET
All professional athletes salaries should be cut in half. the last three weeks show how unimportant they are to society.
- Fattony1187


They worked hard for that what gives you the right to just assume they don't deserve it
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 2 @ 10:33 AM ET
All professional athletes salaries should be cut in half. the last three weeks show how unimportant they are to society.
- Fattony1187


I understand the sentiment, but the reality is that even if that were to happen, that money would mostly stay in the pockets of people even richer than they are. There's very little chance that money makes its way into communities.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Apr 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
It's not just the minutes increase, its the quality of teammate as well. this is why points is dangerous as an evaluative measure, because line to line it can vary greatly for someone.

If hintz saw a minutes increase but still saw the same usage and teammates his growth in point totals might have been X+1. But if he goes back to centring top six players and getting more meaningful usage, His numbers might have been x+2

That's why I dont factor the scoring rate in when i say on the cusp of stardom. What leads me to make that claim is that his isolated impact in terms of shot rates, chances created etc. Are all already clicking at a near first line level.

- Michael Ghofrani


Sorry to pull this back up so far down. But I always see this argument, if only he had better linemates, or team usage. There's a hidden variable here, that is a complete unknown, which is how well a player would do against the better competition at a higher rate then they currently see. A player may kill it on the third line, even with subpar linemates, as they generally will see third line quality players from the other team (I understand it's not 1st line against first line all the time, but I feel this holds true across the board for MOST, not all, most players). This isn't a knock against any particular player, just the thought that he's dominating X position, if only he was in Y position he'd be that much better.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 2 @ 10:48 AM ET
Woop woop woop
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:13 AM ET
You seem to have a lot if hate for the older crowd.
You'll get there too, well maybe not.

- IonSabres


As long as i don’t get as bitter & b!tchy... 🤣🤣🤣
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:15 AM ET
All professional athletes salaries should be cut in half. the last three weeks show how unimportant they are to society.
- Fattony1187


So the owners should make more?
Blah
Bad take sir
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:15 AM ET
I'm losing my mind ..

It can't be this bad in buffalo

- gerbe75pts



You lost your mind a long..... wait.


Sorry, it’s you’ve been out of your mind for a long time.


Carry on
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:17 AM ET
I understand the sentiment, but the reality is that even if that were to happen, that money would mostly stay in the pockets of people even richer than they are. There's very little chance that money makes its way into communities.
- buffalofan19



“Shaq is rich, the mfer that pays him is wealthy.”
Chris Rock
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 2 @ 11:25 AM ET
As long as i don’t get as bitter & b!tchy... 🤣🤣🤣
- jdfitz77

Hey know, I am up there. I get bitter and female dogy watching the younger generation thinking things should just be handed to them and not have to work hard for what they get.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:27 AM ET
You lost your mind a long..... wait.


Sorry, it’s you’ve been out of your mind for a long time.


Carry on

- dadeadhead

Woop woop woop
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 2 @ 11:28 AM ET
Woop woop woop
- gerbe75pts

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 2 @ 11:29 AM ET
Hey know, I am up there. I get bitter and female dogy watching the younger generation thinking things should just be handed to them and not have to work hard for what they get.
- Buff36

could be part of the reason for the long time that has passed since sabres won a playoff series


dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:31 AM ET
Hey know, I am up there. I get bitter and female dogy watching the younger generation thinking things should just be handed to them and not have to work hard for what they get.
- Buff36



Last week Tuesday my son says to me “Dad, I don’t want to live with Mom anymore. She’s never home and I spend most of the time with my aunt. Is it ok if I just stay with you full time?”

Thursday he says “Dad when all this quarantine rubbish is over and the bar gets back to normal, I’d like to learn to cook rather than dishwash. Can I?”

Needless to say I had a pretty good week last week. He’s 16 and has finally seen the light.



Before homie posts it😉
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
could be part of the reason for the long time that has passed since sabres won a playoff series



- homiedclown



13 yrs and counting.

Bills haven’t won one in in 25 yrs and counting.

We are a troubled fan base.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 2 @ 11:37 AM ET
Sorry to pull this back up so far down. But I always see this argument, if only he had better linemates, or team usage. There's a hidden variable here, that is a complete unknown, which is how well a player would do against the better competition at a higher rate then they currently see. A player may kill it on the third line, even with subpar linemates, as they generally will see third line quality players from the other team (I understand it's not 1st line against first line all the time, but I feel this holds true across the board for MOST, not all, most players). This isn't a knock against any particular player, just the thought that he's dominating X position, if only he was in Y position he'd be that much better.
- SDSabre


Both points are valid, QoTM and QoC, with QoTM probably outweighs QoC slightly for the reason you state. I would think more TOI would be a bigger factor all things being equal.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
Hey know, I am up there. I get bitter and female dogy watching the younger generation thinking things should just be handed to them and not have to work hard for what they get.
- Buff36


Seems like every generation thinks that of the next

Why bother b!tching about it?
Not gonna change things
Makes more sense to put your energy into something more productive than being grouchy & bitter about everything

That’s the way i see it anyways
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
Damn, the Sabres have 15 playoff series wins in their history.

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 2 @ 11:44 AM ET
Last week Tuesday my son says to me “Dad, I don’t want to live with Mom anymore. She’s never home and I spend most of the time with my aunt. Is it ok if I just stay with you full time?”

Thursday he says “Dad when all this quarantine rubbish is over and the bar gets back to normal, I’d like to learn to cook rather than dishwash. Can I?”

Needless to say I had a pretty good week last week. He’s 16 and has finally seen the light.



Before homie posts it😉

- dadeadhead

That's cool, and I think that goes with seeing how hard you have worked. My son is 15 and he goes around cutting lawns and shoveling driveways to get extra cash. I was told money doesn't grow on trees, you want extra get a paper route or cut lawns, my dad was tough on me, trying not to be that hard on my son, but just trying to instill some pride in him
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 2 @ 11:45 AM ET
Hey know, I am up there. I get bitter and female dogy watching the younger generation thinking things should just be handed to them and not have to work hard for what they get.
- Buff36


Meh.
That's been said about every generation by the older generation.

I'm just shocked at the rather constant hatred of those older by certain individuals, it has clearly become evident in several comments, normally in heated discussions.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 2 @ 11:53 AM ET
Damn, the Sabres have 15 playoff series wins in their history.
- dadeadhead

miller won 4
dom won 7
fuhr won 1
sauve won 2
edwards sauve combo won 2

5 wins before the edwards sauve era

I got 21
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:55 AM ET
miller won 4
dom won 7
fuhr won 1
sauve won 2
edwards sauve combo won 2

5 wins before the edwards sauve era

I got 21

- homiedclown



You are right.


Still sad
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 2 @ 11:58 AM ET
You are right.


Still sad

- dadeadhead

bowman was snake bit after the islander loss
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 2 @ 12:04 PM ET
Meh.
That's been said about every generation by the older generation.

I'm just shocked at the rather constant hatred of those older by certain individuals, it has clearly become evident in several comments, normally in heated discussions.

- IonSabres

Well could be, maybe just notice it more the older I get.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 2 @ 12:08 PM ET
So the owners should make more?
Blah
Bad take sir

- jdfitz77



Don’t think the owners either. Unemployment is gonna be above 30%. Who is buying tickets next year?
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