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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 4 @ 10:17 AM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/nba-and-nbpa-negotiate-pay-cuts-1.1463113

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this but I expect we'll see something similar soon in the NHL. IMO, it should be tiered.

- golfingsince

English Premier League is proposing a 30% pay cut for players.
golfingsince
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Apr 4 @ 10:37 AM ET
English Premier League is proposing a 30% pay cut for players.
- Marwood


I mean there is zero revenue.....
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 4 @ 10:45 AM ET
I mean there is zero revenue.....
- golfingsince

Makes sense.
When this started I said to my wife the entitled and the self centered are going to have a tough time.

So, on the island in both Parksville and Cowichan Valley, they have couples returning from overseas refusing to quarantine. Their neighbours are reporting them to the police. The police have talked to them and they said they won't comply. That Quarantine Act really has some teeth.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 10:46 AM ET
I mean there is zero revenue.....
- golfingsince


Season ticket holders paid in advance. Are they getting a refund, or just a credit?

TV contracts are signed, perhaps the payments are staggered? But I assume a lot of that revenue is already earned.

Jersey and other items have already been sold. Most of the revenue is already in the owners pockets, but look, if the rest of us are being laid off and receiving 55% (or whatever) of our wage, no reason athletes shouldn’t also be laid off.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 4 @ 10:47 AM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/nba-and-nbpa-negotiate-pay-cuts-1.1463113

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this but I expect we'll see something similar soon in the NHL. IMO, it should be tiered.

- golfingsince

Guaranteed contracts so i don’t see it.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 4 @ 10:48 AM ET
Makes sense.
When this started I said to my wife the entitled and the self centered are going to have a tough time.

So, on the island in both Parksville and Cowichan Valley, they have couples returning from overseas refusing to quarantine. Their neighbours are reporting them to the police. The police have talked to them and they said they won't comply. That Quarantine Act really has some teeth.

- Marwood


I think it's ridiculous. Here in NB you face an $11K fine if you don't comply. I think they should step it up and seize vehicles or something for non-payment.
golfingsince
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Apr 4 @ 10:48 AM ET
Guaranteed contracts so i don’t see it.
- Nighthawk


Well it's going to come down to a situation where teams face bankruptcy if nothing is done, so I think the union will realize that.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 4 @ 10:48 AM ET
Season ticket holders paid in advance. Are they getting a refund, or just a credit?

TV contracts are signed, perhaps the payments are staggered? But I assume a lot of that revenue is already earned.

Jersey and other items have already been sold. Most of the revenue is already in the owners pockets, but look, if the rest of us are being laid off and receiving 55% (or whatever) of our wage, no reason athletes shouldn’t also be laid off.

- 1970vintage


Professionals are not employees
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 4 @ 10:49 AM ET
Well it's going to come down to a situation where teams face bankruptcy if nothing is done, so I think the union will realize that.
- golfingsince

There will be some interesting negotiations to come no doubt.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 10:50 AM ET
Makes sense.
When this started I said to my wife the entitled and the self centered are going to have a tough time.

So, on the island in both Parksville and Cowichan Valley, they have couples returning from overseas refusing to quarantine. Their neighbours are reporting them to the police. The police have talked to them and they said they won't comply. That Quarantine Act really has some teeth.

- Marwood


Heard the mayor of Cowichan on CBC yesterday saying the same thing. Basically, bylaw officers have no tools to deal with provincial measures. But, the federal measures came into place recently, and it’s the RCMP who are responsible for attending those. It’s all about what date you returned. Stupid - they should have enacted the emergency such and such retroactive to whatever date so that they could enforce it properly.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 10:51 AM ET
Professionals are not employees
- Nighthawk


Sorry, what?

Are they independent contractors?

I don’t think so...
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
I think it's ridiculous. Here in NB you face an $11K fine if you don't comply. I think they should step it up and seize vehicles or something for non-payment.
- golfingsince

These peoples names should be made public. Nothing a little community shaming can't resolve. Or just arrest them and throw them in jail.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
Professionals are not employees
- Nighthawk

What?!?!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
Season ticket holders paid in advance. Are they getting a refund, or just a credit?

TV contracts are signed, perhaps the payments are staggered? But I assume a lot of that revenue is already earned.

Jersey and other items have already been sold. Most of the revenue is already in the owners pockets, but look, if the rest of us are being laid off and receiving 55% (or whatever) of our wage, no reason athletes shouldn’t also be laid off.

- 1970vintage



Trump is having a phone meeting with all major NA sport leaders today at noon.
I heard Ont Health Dept say yesterday 18 -24 months . Maybe Loui's contract will be over by then
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
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Apr 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
Season ticket holders paid in advance. Are they getting a refund, or just a credit?

TV contracts are signed, perhaps the payments are staggered? But I assume a lot of that revenue is already earned.

Jersey and other items have already been sold. Most of the revenue is already in the owners pockets, but look, if the rest of us are being laid off and receiving 55% (or whatever) of our wage, no reason athletes shouldn’t also be laid off.

- 1970vintage


I imagine everything for this season as far as ticket holders will be a credit, at least for now. I doubt all of the TV revenue is paid as it's highly dependant on ad revenue which is non-existent for hockey right now.

How long can the bottom 5 teams hang on? How about the next 5?
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 4 @ 10:55 AM ET
Trump is having a phone meeting with all major NA sport leaders today at noon.
I heard Ont Health Dept say yesterday 18 -24 months . Maybe Loui's contract will be over by then

- VANTEL


So Easter?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
I mean there is zero revenue.....
- golfingsince

Didn’t the carbon tax go from 20% to 30% April 1st, along with a 2.5% bump in MP’s salaries? Maybe they could donate that to the professional sports teams
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:00 AM ET
I imagine everything for this season as far as ticket holders will be a credit, at least for now. I doubt all of the TV revenue is paid as it's highly dependant on ad revenue which is non-existent for hockey right now.

How long can the bottom 5 teams hang on? How about the next 5?

- golfingsince


I would imagine that even the bottom 5 team owners are well off enough that they can hang on. There is still the revenue sharing through the league office, and there is only what, 20% of the season left? It is harder on teams who were counting on playoff revenues I would think.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:00 AM ET
So Easter?
- golfingsince



That guy is the topic of all media today on Twitter. Everyone is calling him an idiot.

The stock piling issue
The firing of the naval captain
His popularity ratings
Germany is pissed at him and he is not making friends in Canada
He fired another high employee last night

He is worst than the virus
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 4 @ 11:02 AM ET


That guy is the topic of all media today on Twitter. Everyone is calling him an idiot.

The stock piling issue
The firing of the naval captain
His popularity ratings
Germany is pissed at him and he is not making friends in Canada
He fired another high employee last night

He is worst than the virus

- VANTEL

I read his popularity amongst Americans is at an all time high
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 4 @ 11:03 AM ET
Sorry, what?

Are they independent contractors?

I don’t think so...

- 1970vintage


Signed a contract in good faith. Do you think there is a Covid 19 clause written in?
I don’t think so...
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 4 @ 11:05 AM ET
I read his popularity amongst Americans is at an all time high
- LeftCoaster

Cannot fix stupid lol
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:06 AM ET
Signed a contract in good faith. Do you think there is a Covid 19 clause written in?
I don’t think so...

- Nighthawk


How does that make them not an employee? No, there is certainly not a C19 clause, but there are all kinds of other clauses, like escrow for example.

Players are employees of the NHL, their money is not guaranteed, it’s based on a share of total revenue.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:08 AM ET
I read his popularity amongst Americans is at an all time high
- LeftCoaster


His popularity is at an all time high for all the wrong reasons.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:10 AM ET
How does that make them not an employee? No, there is certainly not a C19 clause, but there are all kinds of other clauses, like escrow for example.

Players are employees of the NHL, their money is not guaranteed, it’s based on a share of total revenue.

- 1970vintage

Good question.
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