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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 4 @ 11:10 AM ET
How does that make them not an employee? No, there is certainly not a C19 clause, but there are all kinds of other clauses, like escrow for example.

Players are employees of the NHL, their money is not guaranteed, it’s based on a share of total revenue.

- 1970vintage

Not guaranteed then dump Loui like the NFL can. Eg Antonio Brown. Cap savings voila.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 4 @ 11:11 AM ET
His popularity is at an all time high for all the wrong reasons.
- VANTEL


I follow him on Twitter for the entertainment value, I'll leave it at that.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:11 AM ET
Not guaranteed then dump Loui like the NFL can. Eg Antonio Brown. Cap savings voila.
- Nighthawk

You didn't answer the question.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:12 AM ET
You didn't answer the question.
- Marwood


It’s ok, there isn’t an answer.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 4 @ 11:14 AM ET
[Donald Trump, Titanic captain]

1. There is no iceberg
2. We won’t hit the iceberg
3. We barely touched the iceberg
4. Nobody could’ve seen the iceberg
5. These deaths mean my plan worked
6. I’m the best captain ever

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:14 AM ET
I follow him on Twitter for the entertainment value, I'll leave it at that.
- VanHockeyGuy


Me too and mostly everyone else. He is a walking talking train wreck.

I can't stand the fuker and I want him gone and I will leave it at that.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 4 @ 11:17 AM ET
Me too and mostly everyone else. He is a walking talking train wreck.

I can't stand the fuker and I want him gone and I will leave it at that.

- VANTEL

I bet he gets another four years.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 4 @ 11:18 AM ET
I read his popularity amongst Americans is at an all time high
- LeftCoaster


It's seen a bump, as have all global and local leaders as people tend to support them during a crisis.

In comparison to other leaders, he's barely moved the needle. His popularity will soon be at an all time low as thousands of americans die daily.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:19 AM ET
I bet he gets another four years.
- LeftCoaster

I thought that before the pandemic. We'll see.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 4 @ 11:19 AM ET
Not guaranteed then dump Loui like the NFL can. Eg Antonio Brown. Cap savings voila.
- Nighthawk


Are all the guys in AZ guaranteed their salaries if the team folds? We need to think outside the box, salaries will be re-structured.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 4 @ 11:22 AM ET
It’s ok, there isn’t an answer.
- 1970vintage

Employees technically yes to the team under the CBA rules & regs during the season & PO’s only.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 4 @ 11:24 AM ET
It's seen a bump, as have all global and local leaders as people tend to support them during a crisis.

In comparison to other leaders, he's barely moved the needle. His popularity will soon be at an all time low as thousands of americans die daily.

- golfingsince

Actually I just read his approval rating went down 17 points in the past two weeks.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 4 @ 11:26 AM ET
Are all the guys in AZ guaranteed their salaries if the team folds? We need to think outside the box, salaries will be re-structured.
- golfingsince


That is a tough question. 1st off I don’t see the NHL allowing a team to fold in season. Sold yes & the league has propped them up before. As for restructuring contracts that’s for bargaining & I’d suspect requiring a new CBA
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:27 AM ET
Are all the guys in AZ guaranteed their salaries if the team folds? We need to think outside the box, salaries will be re-structured.
- golfingsince


I believe player contracts are with the NHL, not with the Coyotes. So if the team folds, I believe players would be required to play out their contracts with a different team (under normal circumstances). But the money they earn isn’t “guaranteed”. There is escrow for when league revenue doesn’t match projections, there are buyout windows where teams can terminate an employee, there are non-compliance terminations (show up to camp fat, fail to report to the minors etc).
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 4 @ 11:29 AM ET
I believe player contracts are with the NHL, not with the Coyotes. So if the team folds, I believe players would be required to play out their contracts with a different team (under normal circumstances). But the money they earn isn’t “guaranteed”. There is escrow for when league revenue doesn’t match projections, there are buyout windows where teams can terminate an employee, there are non-compliance terminations (show up to camp fat, fail to report to the minors etc).
- 1970vintage


Contracts are with a team & registered with the league. The NHL pays players nada.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 4 @ 11:30 AM ET
Actually I just read his approval rating went down 17 points in the past two weeks.
- LeftCoaster


His approval rating went up, but so did his disapproval rating. They're basically neck and neck right now.

He boosted his rating with financial packages, but this virus will still be going strong well past when that money is spent.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 4 @ 11:30 AM ET
Actually I just read his approval rating went down 17 points in the past two weeks.
- LeftCoaster


Nothing a war can't fix.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 4 @ 11:31 AM ET
Nothing a war can't fix.
- VanHockeyGuy

WW I & WW II proved that
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Apr 4 @ 11:33 AM ET
Nothing a war can't fix.
- VanHockeyGuy


Well, CNN has reported that Iran was considering an attack on US forces in the Middle East... I'm not saying, just saying.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 4 @ 11:33 AM ET
Anyways, I actually have to go out shopping. Stocks are running low and i'm back to work next week. I was trying to set up on-line delivery or pickup but nothing available for at least a week.

I'm hoping they finally have some staples around so I can replenish those.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:35 AM ET
In Washington, D.C., President Donald Trump on Friday said his administration is encouraging many Americans to wear face masks in public, though he stresses that the recommendation is optional and conceded that he will not be complying with it.


Firstly, why the (frank) are people being encouraged to wear face masks in public. They shouldn’t be in public.

Secondly, you should do this, but I won’t, it makes my hair look funny...
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 4 @ 11:35 AM ET
Nothing a war can't fix.
- VanHockeyGuy

Damn straight....off with their heads!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:36 AM ET
That is a tough question. 1st off I don’t see the NHL allowing a team to fold in season. Sold yes & the league has propped them up before. As for restructuring contracts that’s for bargaining & I’d suspect requiring a new CBA
- Nighthawk



Allowing them to fold?

You could be looking at a 2 year no public gatherings when you are asking unemployed people to buy hockey sweaters?

If players say no , there may not be a league to go back to. They will lose 400 mil is revenue this year, do you think if there is no league next year they are willing to loose a billion or two?

LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 4 @ 11:37 AM ET
Firstly, why the (frank) are people being encouraged to wear face masks in public. They shouldn’t be in public.

Secondly, you should do this, but I won’t, it makes my hair look funny...

- 1970vintage

I just read Harmac in Nanaimo is the major supplier of material for 3M to produce their masks. They’re ramping up production.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 11:39 AM ET
I just read Harmac in Nanaimo is the major supplier of material for 3M to produce their masks. They’re ramping up production.
- LeftCoaster



3M gets most of their raw material from Canada , that is why they told Trump by doing
that will mean less masks for US
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