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-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 6 @ 12:08 PM ET
For shame, Tyler!

In other news,

@Account4hockey
Elliotte Friedman on WGR550 Thursday on Dylan Strome: "He's available." "I don't think the cost is particularly prohibitive".

and when someone questioned the weird timing of this:

@Account4hockey
Last week one of the hosts asked him to see if Strome was available because he thinks he would be a good fit for Buffalo. So this week he answered after calling around.

- pdx2ord


If anyone offers him more than $4.2 mil the Hawks get a 1st and a 3rd back and the cap space. That would be a tough call. Buffalo has 8 RFA's and 7 UFA's on their NHL roster. So you can expect some major changes in the offseason for them (when and if the off season starts).
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 6 @ 12:29 PM ET
All is well, sir! How are things on your end?

Yeah I didn't think From would be with the organization long-term. As you mentioned, Hawks brass didn't seem overly impressed with him.

Gravel is someone I am interested in as well in regards to how CHI makes that decision.

I think you resign him and the ECHL might be a nice transition for him.

Then you have Lankinen/Delia (assuming one of them are up in the NHL) + Tomkins in the AHL.

Then Gravel as insurance in Indy and a possible wild card in Ivan Nalimov - however, he may never come back overseas.

- Tyler Cameron

I am hoping the same thing for Gravel and how to organize the goalies in the minors. If Gravel is no longer in the Hawks plans and Nalimov is willing to cross the ocean again, then have him start in Indy instead.

Or if Gravel and Nalimov are both signed on, have them be the Indy tandem with the Delia, Lankinen, and Tomkins rotation in Rockford.

Delia or Lankinen could still prove to be the Hawks backup, especially if the team parts ways with Subban.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 6 @ 12:33 PM ET
Caggiula can play top 6. But it would be nice to have him in the bottom 6. A 4th line of Carp, Highmore, Caggiula is pretty decent. I am losing my enthusiasm for Kampf. He can win faceoffs and play on the PK. But 5v5 he is awful offensively. He might be better as a winger on the 4th that can take faceoffs and kill penalties. He does not drive enough offense to play center.
- -Doh-

I also would love a 4th line of Carpenter centering Caggiula and Highmore with Kampf as the 13th forward. Then if Caggiula gets hurt again, recall Hagel.

Or if it's later in the season, say at least the halfway point, consider giving Entwistle a cup of coffee. Maybe even Barratt if he progresses quickly.

If spots open up on the 3rd line, then consider Sikura or Kurashev.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Apr 6 @ 12:39 PM ET
Considerably so. Can’t tell if you’re Darthing me there but if not, I don’t think it’s a reach to see them handing the reins over to Foles.

Pace has swung and missed pretty mightily with his first round picks so far, but the fact they moved on from Floyd and traded for Foles who appears to be a fit in this offense kind of speaks volumes.

I’m sure they still want Mitch to get it at some point but as it’s been written...I think they were watching the same thing we all were last season.

- HawkintheD


I don't know, I listened to the Nagy and Pace. I thought they between the lines they were really still pushing Mitch. maybe I have a built in bias.

Any no, not Darthing you, some things are just not imitated
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Apr 6 @ 12:41 PM ET
For shame, Tyler!

In other news,

@Account4hockey
Elliotte Friedman on WGR550 Thursday on Dylan Strome: "He's available." "I don't think the cost is particularly prohibitive".

and when someone questioned the weird timing of this:

@Account4hockey
Last week one of the hosts asked him to see if Strome was available because he thinks he would be a good fit for Buffalo. So this week he answered after calling around.

- pdx2ord


Well then, its got to be true.

Although I think Strome would be available, not sure they'd give him away for nothing.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Apr 6 @ 12:42 PM ET
I also would love a 4th line of Carpenter centering Caggiula and Highmore with Kampf as the 13th forward. Then if Caggiula gets hurt again, recall Hagel.

Or if it's later in the season, say at least the halfway point, consider giving Entwistle a cup of coffee. Maybe even Barratt if he progresses quickly.

If spots open up on the 3rd line, then consider Sikura or Kurashev.

- AEL_Fox


Be interesting to watch the Kurashev and Barrett, which will be elevated first.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Apr 6 @ 1:20 PM ET
Ok Tyler, explain this.

https://www.tmz.com/photo...1b0843658a5e5a43c65e66e9/

- boilermaker100


No one was supposed to know this.

Yes, I am the same hunky Tyler Cameron from The Bachelorette series (red font).
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Apr 6 @ 1:22 PM ET
I am hoping the same thing for Gravel and how to organize the goalies in the minors. If Gravel is no longer in the Hawks plans and Nalimov is willing to cross the ocean again, then have him start in Indy instead.

Or if Gravel and Nalimov are both signed on, have them be the Indy tandem with the Delia, Lankinen, and Tomkins rotation in Rockford.

Delia or Lankinen could still prove to be the Hawks backup, especially if the team parts ways with Subban.

- AEL_Fox


Yeah, I don't think Subban is in the team's long-term plans.

I actually totally forgot about him.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Apr 6 @ 1:24 PM ET
For shame, Tyler!

In other news,

@Account4hockey
Elliotte Friedman on WGR550 Thursday on Dylan Strome: "He's available." "I don't think the cost is particularly prohibitive".

and when someone questioned the weird timing of this:

@Account4hockey
Last week one of the hosts asked him to see if Strome was available because he thinks he would be a good fit for Buffalo. So this week he answered after calling around.

- pdx2ord


I am not surprised.

Stan will have to get something "sexy" in return though if he's going to move Strome IMO.

Bowman has had more misses lately than wins and Strome (even though Schmaltz has played well when healthy in ARI) is deemed by the majority as a win.


Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 6 @ 1:54 PM ET
I am not surprised.

Stan will have to get something "sexy" in return though if he's going to move Strome IMO.

Bowman has had more misses lately than wins and Strome (even though Schmaltz has played well when healthy in ARI) is deemed by the majority as a win.

- Tyler Cameron


TC, My big (and pretty much only) concern in moving Strome is that the Hawks would then go to Toews, Dach, Kampf, Carpenter down the middle. I think that is a step back. I'm not a huge Strome fan, but I do think he brings a lot to the table. He seems to have the goods between the ears and in his chest. He is just a bit slow at times which gets him in trouble.

As far as Subban is concerned, do you know if he was simply a throw in by Vegas to make the roster work, or if the Hawks actually wanted to take him back?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 6 @ 2:05 PM ET
I am not surprised.

Stan will have to get something "sexy" in return though if he's going to move Strome IMO.

Bowman has had more misses lately than wins and Strome (even though Schmaltz has played well when healthy in ARI) is deemed by the majority as a win.

- Tyler Cameron


Has Buffalo given up on Middlestadt already? If so seems to be a trend with their #1 picks lately (Nylander). If the rumor is true, wonder what Stan is looking for in return?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Apr 6 @ 2:05 PM ET
Kampf is ok, but I could see him getting replaced by Hagel next season. I know it was just the one game but the puck seemed to find him a lot.

Definitely think that Highmore worked his way on to the team this past season and he and Carpenter should be 2/3's of that 4th line whenever play resumes.

- HawkintheD

Hagel isn't a center. Kampf is also a much better center than Carpenter. In a 4th line role I place a little more importance on FO%. Kampf is at 52%. Carpenter is 43%.

Also think Hagel has enough offense to his game to be put in more of a scoring type of role on a 3rd bum slaying type of line.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Apr 6 @ 2:36 PM ET
I don't know, I listened to the Nagy and Pace. I thought they between the lines they were really still pushing Mitch. maybe I have a built in bias.

Any no, not Darthing you, some things are just not imitated

- vabeachbear


He is damn good at what he does.

I haven't heard the press conference but from what I've read some of the Athletic and Daily Herald people seemed to interpret it differently.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Apr 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
Hagel isn't a center. Kampf is also a much better center than Carpenter. In a 4th line role I place a little more importance on FO%. Kampf is at 52%. Carpenter is 43%.

Also think Hagel has enough offense to his game to be put in more of a scoring type of role on a 3rd bum slaying type of line.

- Elbows15


Was suggesting Carpenter center for Highmore and Hagel but didn't realize he was sub AA percentage wise on face-offs.

Haven't seen Hagel perform other than that one game, but he definitely didn't look out of place on the 3rd line. Think he was out there with Dach and Dinky.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Apr 6 @ 2:42 PM ET
He is damn good at what he does.

I haven't heard the press conference but from what I've read some of the Athletic and Daily Herald people seemed to interpret it differently.

- HawkintheD


Someone thinks differently than me, I hear that is unacceptable here
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Apr 6 @ 2:50 PM ET
The Athletic is doing a Blackhawks fan survey here:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CRGG3MZ

The link will work for subscribers and non-subscribers alike
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Apr 6 @ 2:57 PM ET
Was suggesting Carpenter center for Highmore and Hagel but didn't realize he was sub AA percentage wise on face-offs.

Haven't seen Hagel perform other than that one game, but he definitely didn't look out of place on the 3rd line. Think he was out there with Dach and Dinky.

- HawkintheD

I don't like Carpenter at center. I actually kinda liked him less as the season wore on. He and the puck aren't friends. Liked him better on the wing for sure. Kampf is also faster and better along the walls.

Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
If anyone offers him more than $4.2 mil the Hawks get a 1st and a 3rd back and the cap space. That would be a tough call. Buffalo has 8 RFA's and 7 UFA's on their NHL roster. So you can expect some major changes in the offseason for them (when and if the off season starts).
- -Doh-

I prefer to keep Strome and build around Toews, Dach, and Strome down the middle.

However, if another team is willing to offer Strome that amount, then I would strongly consider a 1st and 3rd pick as compensation given how deep the 2020 draft is. Depends on the team, of course.

The Hawks could replenish Strome with drafting a top 9 center like Lundell. That 3C could be in the system already, too, with Kurashev or even Entwistle or Barratt.

The Senators, Devils, Rangers, Ducks, and Wild have multiple 1st round picks so I assume the Hawks would get the latest of whichever team's 1st rounders. Not a bad thing given the depth of the 1st round but still something to consider.

If the Hawks wanted to gain a second top 10 pick, then they'd be best hoping for the Kings, Sabres, and Habs would be iinterested in signing Strome.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 6 @ 3:31 PM ET
For shame, Tyler!

In other news,

@Account4hockey
Elliotte Friedman on WGR550 Thursday on Dylan Strome: "He's available." "I don't think the cost is particularly prohibitive".

and when someone questioned the weird timing of this:

@Account4hockey
Last week one of the hosts asked him to see if Strome was available because he thinks he would be a good fit for Buffalo. So this week he answered after calling around.

- pdx2ord

If Strome is traded all the centers the Hawks will have left is a young kid and a 3rd liner.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
If Strome is traded all the centers the Hawks will have left is a young kid and a 3rd liner.
- paulr


If Dach hits his ceiling that will be a nice load off that 3rd line centers back. Dach out against top match-ups and let the bum Toews bum slay for once. Would probably result in us seeing a few more really good years from Toews.
Black Raven
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: UT
Joined: 01.12.2019

Apr 6 @ 4:48 PM ET
If Dach hits his ceiling that will be a nice load off that 3rd line centers back. Dach out against top match-ups and let the bum Toews bum slay for once. Would probably result in us seeing a few more really good years from Toews.
- bhawks2241



Or have two solid lines with centers that are responsible defensively in Toews and Dach. Especially at home where we can pick the match ups. Then let 92-17-88 go out as 3rd line against the weaker pairings and really bum slay. That line was starting to look good at the end of the season.

We know 20-19-8 can hold their own and has a good balance.
12-77-and? Hagel, Shaw, Cags or someone outside could be a good line as well and tough to play against and could hold their own defensively.

So much depends on Nylander developing and coming to play every game.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Apr 6 @ 4:54 PM ET
If Strome is traded all the centers the Hawks will have left is a young kid and a 3rd liner.
- paulr


Let’s not forget though that the Hawks have already proven you can still win a championship without a 2C. Not saying it’s the best route to take. But it can be done. If moving Strome improves the overall roster then I’m all for it.

Now that I think about it that 2013 team was incredible weak down the middle. Toews was outstanding but after that Handzus, Shaw(who many don’t even consider a center these days), and what was left of Dave Bolland. That’s about it.

Of course we made up for it by having A. The best D core in the league and B. The best collection of wingers in the league.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Apr 6 @ 5:23 PM ET
I prefer to keep Strome and build around Toews, Dach, and Strome down the middle.

However, if another team is willing to offer Strome that amount, then I would strongly consider a 1st and 3rd pick as compensation given how deep the 2020 draft is. Depends on the team, of course.

The Hawks could replenish Strome with drafting a top 9 center like Lundell. That 3C could be in the system already, too, with Kurashev or even Entwistle or Barratt.

The Senators, Devils, Rangers, Ducks, and Wild have multiple 1st round picks so I assume the Hawks would get the latest of whichever team's 1st rounders. Not a bad thing given the depth of the 1st round but still something to consider.

If the Hawks wanted to gain a second top 10 pick, then they'd be best hoping for the Kings, Sabres, and Habs would be iinterested in signing Strome.

- AEL_Fox

I agree Strome for a 1st and 3rd in this years draft would be worth consideration , I am not sure signing Strome would cost another team picks in this year draft ,but considering how thinks will or will not shake out this offseason it could work out that way .
I would like to see Strome sign back with the HAWKS for a fair price ,ankle injury can be tough for a young player . He and DBC are due a bounce back in a big way .
If the HAWKS could get another 1st then I would really like to see the HAWKS take Yoroslav Askarov ,even if they don't get another pick I take him at 9 ,if they luck out again into the top three all bets are off .Askarov would be the perfect compliment to the young defense . Also I like the look of Holloway since Wiz pointed him out to me ,my Nephew scout say's he was higher rated last year what ever that means (he a Leaf fan ) ,or maybe Lundell .
Googlyeyes
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Joined: 03.15.2019

Apr 6 @ 6:28 PM ET
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Apr 6 @ 7:44 PM ET
FTR. I wouldn't read too much into Gravel's numbers this season. The team he was on was not very good this season. Progress for goalies is far from linear. It is rare when goalies don't suffer regression during their development.

True of most players but even more so for goalies.
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