I think what the Rangers will do if we ever get hockey again is sign him to a short term extension
- jimbro83

That would be the right move, see if he can duplicate his success and give yourselves extra time to determine if a prospect can come in and replace him if not.

I think what the Rangers will do if we ever get hockey again is sign him to a short term extension
- jimbro83

if he's signed, i hope it's 2-3 years. def don't have faith in him long term, nor do i think he'd be worth what we'd pay him long term.

i'm also good with trading him

if he's signed, i hope it's 2-3 years. def don't have faith in him long term, nor do i think he'd be worth what we'd pay him long term.

i'm also good with trading him
- Mtlca66

Pretty much where I land, too.
Trade him if you can get a good deal. Sign him mid-range if not.
I was not high on Strome entering this year, but didn't hate him, either.
He impressed me, whether or not it was because of his linemates.
I didn't think Strome would be as consistent as he was this season, but I am not a fan of his laziness. That was evident in the penalties he took and the lack of success at the dot.
Although, unlike TJ, I believe that faceoff prowess is something that can be developed and should not be a primary factor for making a trade.

well he got a 7 year deal with NMC
- jimbro83

damn straight

Pretty much where I land, too.
Trade him if you can get a good deal. Sign him mid-range if not.
I was not high on Strome entering this year, but didn't hate him, either.
He impressed me, whether or not it was because of his linemates.
I didn't think Strome would be as consistent as he was this season, but I am not a fan of his laziness. That was evident in the penalties he took and the lack of success at the dot.
Although, unlike TJ, I believe that faceoff prowess is something that can be developed and should not be a primary factor for making a trade.
- Tonybere

Faceoffs are a key to winning hockey games. It’s not some made up thing lol. Zib is the number one and isn’t going anywhere, and he isn’t great on faceoffs. Chytil isn’t going anywhere either and is worse then the other two at faceoffs

Strome has a 45% career percentage, that supposed to change all the sudden? he’s the one center you can move for a better overall center, especially someone who’s good on draws.

The rangers biggest problem is puck possession and giving up shots, and faceoffs are the biggest reason for this (because you don’t have the puck) It doesn’t have to be some superstar either, just someone that’s 53-55% on faceoffs would be enormous for them in the future

damn straight
- TPC

calm your boner

Faceoffs are a key to winning hockey games. It’s not some made up thing lol. Zib is the number one and isn’t going anywhere, and he isn’t great on faceoffs. Chytil isn’t going anywhere either and is worse then the other two at faceoffs

Strome has a 45% career percentage, that supposed to change all the sudden? he’s the one center you can move for a better overall center, especially someone who’s good on draws.

The rangers biggest problem is puck possession and giving up shots, and faceoffs are the biggest reason for this (because you don’t have the puck) It doesn’t have to be some superstar either, just someone that’s 53-55% on faceoffs would be enormous for them in the future
- Slimtj100

Believe me TJ, I am not underestimating the importance of faceoffs. That would make me a total Tanner!!
What I'm saying is that I don't think you need to make a trade specifically for a guy to take faceoff's for you.
I feel like from what we've seen from others centers around the league, all it should take to see improvement is for Zib, Strome, Oliver and a bucket of pucks to spend a couple hours a week standing over a dot and putting in the work to get better at that particular skill.
Wouldn't be a first if I'm wrong, though!!

Believe me TJ, I am not underestimating the importance of faceoffs. That would make me a total Tanner!!
What I'm saying is that I don't think you need to make a trade specifically for a guy to take faceoff's for you.
I feel like from what we've seen from others centers around the league, all it should take to see improvement is for Zib, Strome, Oliver and a bucket of pucks to spend a couple hours a week standing over a dot and putting in the work to get better at that particular skill.
Wouldn't be a first if I'm wrong, though!!
- Tonybere

I can see Chytil improving but guys who’ve been around as long as Strome has it doesn’t just all the sudden happen. He’s been in the league for 6 years now, he is what he is and he sucks in the circle

Strome is a dime a dozen type player. He’s made by a great playmaker. I’d venture to say that we could get Jenner, for instance, and he’d produce at the same clip as Strome playing with Panarin

I can see Chytil improving but guys who’ve been around as long as Strome has it doesn’t just all the sudden happen. He’s been in the league for 6 years now, he is what he is and he sucks in the circle

Strome is a dime a dozen type player. He’s made by a great playmaker. I’d venture to say that we could get Jenner, for instance, and he’d produce at the same clip as Strome.
- Slimtj100

Boyle sucked at skating and spent one summer with Barb Underhill and vastly improved. And that's literally a skill he used just to play the game his entire life. Faceoffs are only a small portion so who know's how much these guys actually practice them. If he devotes a summer to it with someone good, I don't think it's far fetched to say he'd improve.

Boyle sucked at skating and spent one summer with Barb Underhill and vastly improved. And that's literally a skill he used just to play the game his entire life. Faceoffs are only a small portion so who know's how much these guys actually practice them. If he devotes a summer to it with someone good, I don't think it's far fetched to say he'd improve.
- Mtlca66

It’s never occurred to him to improve and work on it during 6 NHL seasons?

45% is downright awful. Thats almost a guy who shouldn’t be taking any faceoffs haha

We don’t have a guy to lean on to win dzone faceoff with 30 seconds left. That’s the faceoff you have to win.

Faceoffs are an issue and needs to be addressed

It’s never occurred to him to improve and work on it during 6 NHL seasons?

45% is downright awful. Thats almost a guy who shouldn’t be taking any faceoffs haha

We don’t have a guy to lean on to win dzone faceoff with 30 seconds left. That’s the faceoff you have to win.

Faceoffs are an issue and needs to be addressed
- Slimtj100

Well i mean we could say the same about boyle and why did he wait so long? lol

And I do agree with you that we need better faceoff percentages and I'm fine trading him, but if we end up keeping him I think it's something he would hopefully be able to improve on in an off season if he focused on it.

Well i mean we could say the same about boyle and why did he wait so long? lol

And I do agree with you that we need better faceoff percentages and I'm fine trading him, but if we end up keeping him I think it's something he would hopefully be able to improve on in an off season if he focused on it.
- Mtlca66

Maybe Barron can be 4th line center next few years and take on that role. Not sure how he’s been in college on faceoffs tho. He’s big and strong so I’d assume he does pretty well

Boyle sucked at skating and spent one summer with Barb Underhill and vastly improved. And that's literally a skill he used just to play the game his entire life. Faceoffs are only a small portion so who know's how much these guys actually practice them. If he devotes a summer to it with someone good, I don't think it's far fetched to say he'd improve.
- Mtlca66

That mindset worked for Sid years ago, but if it was that easy every centre would do it. At 26-27, players generally don't get better. Especially ones that have been third liners most of their career to that point.

Believe me TJ, I am not underestimating the importance of faceoffs. That would make me a total Tanner!!
What I'm saying is that I don't think you need to make a trade specifically for a guy to take faceoff's for you.
I feel like from what we've seen from others centers around the league, all it should take to see improvement is for Zib, Strome, Oliver and a bucket of pucks to spend a couple hours a week standing over a dot and putting in the work to get better at that particular skill.
Wouldn't be a first if I'm wrong, though!!
- Tonybere

Tony---

Don't EVER go total Tanner!

Yes!

Yes!
- Johnmarzdrums

Welcome!!! (unless you've been commenting a while, in which case you are just one of us and F you!! lol)

Welcome!!! (unless you've been commenting a while, in which case you are just one of us and F you!! lol)
- Tonybere

You can measure Strome's results with and without Panarin. Quick look at Natural Stat Trick and it's obvious that Strome is pretty below average without Panarin wheras Panarin doesn't get much lift from Strome.

So the question is do you pay for someone that you know CAN play well with Panarin or do you assume that anyone can do it and sell high?

If Strome is willing to sign for $5M or less I would let him stay on a short to mid-length deal. A penny over $5M and I'm moving him. Best case scenario would be that he fills the 2C role admirably again next season on a fair value deal and Seattle opts to take him in the expansion draft

You can measure Strome's results with and without Panarin. Quick look at Natural Stat Trick and it's obvious that Strome is pretty below average without Panarin wheras Panarin doesn't get much lift from Strome.

So the question is do you pay for someone that you know CAN play well with Panarin or do you assume that anyone can do it and sell high?

If Strome is willing to sign for $5M or less I would let him stay on a short to mid-length deal. A penny over $5M and I'm moving him. Best case scenario would be that he fills the 2C role admirably again next season on a fair value deal and Seattle opts to take him in the expansion draft
- Maskdman3

I like this. I would do 2 or 3 years at $4.5-5.0M for Strome.
We all know that the real reason for both Strome and Panarin's success was being on a line with Fast anyway.

I like this. I would do 2 or 3 years at $4.5-5.0M for Strome.
We all know that the real reason for both Strome and Panarin's success was being on a line with Fast anyway.
- Tonybere

Fast's agent will be quoting you as "several sources say..." when he uses that line in contract negotiations

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