I don't think he was calling it great drafting, just that they had a great 1C. I mean he routinely scored 50 goals a year before injuries toned it down somewhat.
- golfingsince

I get that but to suck as bad as they did & get him doesn’t get kudos. Sucked 1 year after a good season with a good team & get Hedman 2OA is a big underachievement fluke. Yet they still won nothing & here the same type of team gets less love in our dominant days. I’m no TBL lover nor do I think they’ve done much other than draft Kucherov. Too bad it wasn’t a Daigle or Yak draft.

My point is when a team has to suck so pathetically to luck out for Lemieux Crosby McDavid Matthews etc they get no credit here. Shlt is still shlt & nothing more.

I like Hedman, but if I had to pick one Dman in the league it would be Seth Jones.
- golfingsince

He’s the only guy i consider on the same level, there’s an argument to be made and i love both.

My point is when a team has to suck so pathetically to luck out for Lemieux Crosby McDavid Matthews etc they get no credit here. Shlt is still shlt & nothing more.
- Nighthawk

But Benning is a genius?

I get that but to suck as bad as they did & get him doesn’t get kudos. Sucked 1 year after a good season with a good team & get Hedman 2OA is a big underachievement fluke. Yet they still won nothing & here the same type of team gets less love in our dominant days. I’m no TBL lover nor do I think they’ve done much other than draft Kucherov. Too bad it wasn’t a Daigle or Yak draft.
- Nighthawk

They've done some good things man, there's a reason they're at the top of the league year after year. Vasilevskiy was a good pick. Point is a great pick. Killorn was a good pick.

Did they get lucky with top 3 picks, yes. But they've also surrounded them with good talent.

But Benning is a genius?
- 1970vintage

Boeser-Demko-Pettersson-Hughes

Pretty obvious.

But Benning is a genius?
- 1970vintage

Benning is a genius for defying draft odds and still picking Elias and QH, both undersized players. I mean it's a little scary that your top two stars weigh 170 and 175 lbs respectively but there's no denying the talent.

I wonder how that holds up in the playoffs. That's why i'm currently against trading JV unless the return is substantial. He at least has wheels to skate with the stars and at 23 years old and 225lbs can still grow his game.

Trump rally

Drafting 1OA & taking Stamkos is a no brainer nothing to do with great drafting.
- Nighthawk

What does that have to do with anything we’re discussing

Trump rally
- VANTEL

But Benning is a genius?
- 1970vintage

don’t waste your time, the guy is about as smart as a broken hammer.

don’t waste your time, the guy is about as smart as a broken hammer.
- LeftCoaster

A bag or broken hammers?

A bag or broken hammers?
- 1970vintage

A bag of broken hammers?

Trump rally
- VANTEL

Brian Moran is a pitcher for the Blue Jays.

Or

Brian Moran is an American politician who’s the Secretary of Public Safety and Homeland Security in Virginia. Might have been a play on words but I doubt it.

Benning is a genius for defying draft odds and still picking Elias and QH, both undersized players. I mean it's a little scary that your top two stars weigh 170 and 175 lbs respectively but there's no denying the talent.

I wonder how that holds up in the playoffs. That's why i'm currently against trading JV unless the return is substantial. He at least has wheels to skate with the stars and at 23 years old and 225lbs can still grow his game.
- golfingsince

What odds did he defy?

don’t waste your time, the guy is about as smart as a broken hammer.
- LeftCoaster

You talk to broken hammers?

You talk to broken hammers?
- VANTEL

I occasionally talk to Nighthawk, same difference

They've done some good things man, there's a reason they're at the top of the league year after year. Vasilevskiy was a good pick. Point is a great pick. Killorn was a good pick.

Did they get lucky with top 3 picks, yes. But they've also surrounded them with good talent.
- golfingsince

We were already there & getting there again

I occasionally talk to Nighthawk, same difference
- LeftCoaster

Poor NH

What odds did he defy?
- LeftCoaster

He built a team he thought could win, they still sucked. He cost himself draft positioning yet still ended up with impact players. I'd saying that's defying the odds.

What odds did he defy?
- LeftCoaster

Not the ones to get a Stamkos lol

Poor NH
- VANTEL

I’m cool. Better than fawning over other teams. At least I will give credit where due.

We were already there & getting there again
- Nighthawk

Aside from a year here and there TB has been there since we were. They also won a cup in 2004. It's really not even close.

I’m cool. Better than fawning over other teams. At least I will give credit where due.
- Nighthawk

He was joking

Aside from a year here and there TB has been there since we were. They also won a cup in 2004. It's really not even close.
- golfingsince

I’ll give you 2004. After that they squandered away opportunity like a champ lol