Facts, facts and facts.
- Fidel

I mean, communism done properly is actually a very good way for society to exist. No more big Pharma, no more Jeff Bezos, no more Donald Trump. No more unemployment, no more homeless...

But I doubt she is a communist and I don’t believe you have any facts to back it up.

I mean, communism done properly is actually a very good way for society to exist. No more big Pharma, no more Jeff Bezos, no more Donald Trump. No more unemployment, no more homeless...

But I doubt she is a communist and I don’t believe you have any facts to back it up.
- 1970vintage

Ya who doesn't need a little more Stalin in their life...

I said the same thing on here the other day . We will be losing a lot of Hillbillies Rednecks and married cousins
- VANTEL

Sympathy to affected HB posters, you know who you are.

Sympathy to affected HB posters, you know who you are.
- VanHockeyGuy

I noticed since the Surrey Public Libraries are closed that Dragon doesn't post anymore.

Sympathy to affected HB posters, you know who you are.
- VanHockeyGuy

Sympathy to affected HB posters, you know who you are.
- VanHockeyGuy

Ya who doesn't need a little more Stalin in their life...
- carsonagenic

He isn’t exactly a poster boy for how to do it properly.

The further I think about Bettmans comments to Maclean the more I think there are going to be deep cuts when we come back .

A league can not exist losing 600 mil a year and returning to more record losses.

I think there is going to be serious reduction to current contracts and there will be little the NHLPA will be able to do about it.

I mean, communism done properly is actually a very good way for society to exist. No more big Pharma, no more Jeff Bezos, no more Donald Trump. No more unemployment, no more homeless...

But I doubt she is a communist and I don’t believe you have any facts to back it up.
- 1970vintage

Lol, Merkel is hardly a communist. Hard to run Europe's largest economy while being one. She's a central-right person – but on the European spectrum, which is generally skewed more leftist.

The state of Georgia is re-opening everything. I thank them for volunteering to be the guinea pigs.
- Marwood

Bunch of idiots. Really makes me reconsider living down here in the US of A

He isn’t exactly a poster boy for how to do it properly.
- 1970vintage

That's the problem, it can't be done properly.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
As long as there are humans involved, human natural will take over. Communism can never work, as well as pure Capitalism.
CCCP, Cuba, North Korea, no thanks. China is going to win, but I would never want to live under their regime. Same with the other end of the political spectrum Nazi Germany...ah...No.
The ideal system does not exist yet.

Bunch of idiots. Really makes me reconsider living down here in the US of A
- NewYorkNuck

With the ban on green cards, you may be forced to.

The further I think about Bettmans comments to Maclean the more I think there are going to be deep cuts when we come back .

A league can not exist losing 600 mil a year and returning to more record losses.

I think there is going to be serious reduction to current contracts and there will be little the NHLPA will be able to do about it.
- VANTEL

Exactly. The business model was tenuous in a lot of markets before the Covid. Bettman will never admit defeat on his own, but this this NWO problem is/will become more than he can juggle. Major reset coming. And yes, the Players/NHLPA will have no recourse in the end but accept it.

I mean, communism done properly is actually a very good way for society to exist. No more big Pharma, no more Jeff Bezos, no more Donald Trump. No more unemployment, no more homeless...

But I doubt she is a communist and I don’t believe you have any facts to back it up.
- 1970vintage

Socialism works on a small scale.
Communism doesn’t work at all.

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

George Orwell.

I mean, communism done properly is actually a very good way for society to exist. No more big Pharma, no more Jeff Bezos, no more Donald Trump. No more unemployment, no more homeless...

But I doubt she is a communist and I don’t believe you have any facts to back it up.
- 1970vintage

Irony. Ofc she is not.

That's the problem, it can't be done properly.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
As long as there are humans involved, human natural will take over. Communism can never work, as well as pure Capitalism.
CCCP, Cuba, North Korea, no thanks. China is going to win, but I would never want to live under their regime. Same with the other end of the political spectrum Nazi Germany...ah...No.
The ideal system does not exist yet.
- carsonagenic

i agree. communism is as bad as libertarianism. great in theory but can never work on a large scale. too idealistic in a world that deals with human nature.

That's the problem, it can't be done properly.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
As long as there are humans involved, human natural will take over. Communism can never work, as well as pure Capitalism.
CCCP, Cuba, North Korea, no thanks. China is going to win, but I would never want to live under their regime. Same with the other end of the political spectrum Nazi Germany...ah...No.
The ideal system does not exist yet.
- carsonagenic

All I’m saying is that calling someone a “communist” is supposed to be some kind of insult, like calling someone gay (was in the past, and still is really when you think about people). And you’re right, those policies won’t work with humans, at least not as we are today, because we’re basically evil. Once the animals take over the planet, it will work much better.

That's the problem, it can't be done properly.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
As long as there are humans involved, human natural will take over. Communism can never work, as well as pure Capitalism.
CCCP, Cuba, North Korea, no thanks. China is going to win, but I would never want to live under their regime. Same with the other end of the political spectrum Nazi Germany...ah...No.
The ideal system does not exist yet.
- carsonagenic

Speaking of N Korea. Trump wished Kim Jong Un good luck with him being brain dead.

I guess Trump is living proof that you can be brain dead and still play golf.

Socialism works on a small scale.
Communism doesn’t work at all.

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

George Orwell.
- bloatedmosquito

Like equal pay for women

The further I think about Bettmans comments to Maclean the more I think there are going to be deep cuts when we come back .

A league can not exist losing 600 mil a year and returning to more record losses.

I think there is going to be serious reduction to current contracts and there will be little the NHLPA will be able to do about it.
- VANTEL

the league can't do much without the PA's consent. both sides are bound by the CBA.

if the league wants to make changes, they'll have to convince the PA that it's in their best interests as well.

...but i can see where both sides will look at the situation and agree on a course of action. the best thing for both sides (not society in general) is for them to get back to playing so they can generate revenue. money always talks.

The further I think about Bettmans comments to Maclean the more I think there are going to be deep cuts when we come back .

A league can not exist losing 600 mil a year and returning to more record losses.

I think there is going to be serious reduction to current contracts and there will be little the NHLPA will be able to do about it.
- VANTEL

They don’t actually need to adjust contracts as the real dollars that get paid are a percentage of actual revenue. Players salaries will get squeezed naturally and they will continue to sign contracts relative to their peers. Agents will still use Panarin as a comparable.

With the ban on green cards, you may be forced to.
- bloatedmosquito

Good thing I'm just on a Visa then.. though mine expires in June and my application is being held up because of this. I'm laid off work right now, and potentially won't even be legally allowed to work for the next 3 months

the league can't do much without the PA's consent. both sides are bound by the CBA.

if the league wants to make changes, they'll have to convince the PA that it's in their best interests as well.

...but i can see where both sides will look at the situation and agree on a course of action. the best thing for both sides (not society in general) is for them to get back to playing so they can generate revenue. money always talks.
- RealityChecker

How much revenue do you think they can generate playing to empty arenas? Most of the TV will already have been paid. Cable subscriptions, already bought. Merchandise? Nothing stopping people from buying that now, except a growing uncertainty of our ability to earn... I’m certainly not going to buy a new jersey because they are holding the cup finals in September...

They don’t actually need to adjust contracts as the real dollars that get paid are a percentage of actual revenue. Players salaries will get squeezed naturally and they will continue to sign contracts relative to their peers. Agents will still use Panarin as a comparable.
- 1970vintage

No fans going to the games and neutral sites , there will be no revenue.

Very little merch will be sold . Where are you getting the money to pay for current contracts.

Just an example : Pick any owner and tell him this year he has to pay 70-80 mil in salaries and another 100 million in other costs to make 150 million .

How much revenue do you think they can generate playing to empty arenas? Most of the TV will already have been paid. Cable subscriptions, already bought. Merchandise? Nothing stopping people from buying that now, except a growing uncertainty of our ability to earn... I’m certainly not going to buy a new jersey because they are holding the cup finals in September...
- 1970vintage

here's the issue that i'm unclear about: broadcasting revenue.

even if the money has been paid out, will the league have to pay back a proportion of the money due to not providing the service? since approximately 1/5 of the games (i'm including playoffs) won't be available for broadcast, will the league have to return money since they did not provide the content.

in that scenario, the league will absolutely want to play.

that's why i've been confident that they'll find a way to play this season out.